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Old 07-07-2004, 11:10 PM
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does anyone with traction control and a cam ever have the ASR light come on while driving and you cant turn it off? It just started doing this when i installed my 231/237 .598/.595 cam, also my brakes dont work very well at low rpm now? anyone ever have these problems or have any idea of whats happening?
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running about the same equement as you -but stock heads and 3.23's had bad same problem UNtill I play with mis fires now ONLY time asr mess up is if I idle (675-700 rpm) for long tine-15-20 min and up will have to look at my edit file to see where I changed my missfire - if you have edit I can send you my file I set misfire at min and max at 120 and 140 not sure which other tables I changed , aslo brakes may feel the low vac which you have with this cam,,I have no problem with brakes good luck Johnny
ps: if I idle long enough for the ASR lite to come on and the switch will not work, I only drive about 5-10 minutes and all works fine

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Mine did cut off after idling a while, and the traction control button wouldn't toggle.. just like above.. Now mine just comes on soon as the car finds an idle, after my last tune.. still trying to figure it out.

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Just delete the darn thing. ASR

You normally shouldn't have brake issues with a 112lsa. Did you tune properly? If after tune problem persists there is always the vacuum canister option.
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Originally Posted by PREDATOR-Z
Just delete the darn thing. ASR

You normally shouldn't have brake issues with a 112lsa. Did you tune properly? If after tune problem persists there is always the vacuum canister option.
how do you delete ASR? I was told it couldn't be done with edit. I know of the SLP ASR reversal box.
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SLP TCS LOCK MODULE

http://www.ls1speed.com/catagory.cfm?catagory=pcm
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The reason why the ASR/TCS deactivates is due to the low vacuum produced by the big cam. The system uses the MAP sensor to determine engine load and the cam throws it off. Mine does it occasionally...I just restart the car and it comes back. You should have your idle rpm at 900-1000 rpm, which will help with producing more vacuum helping the TCS and the brakes. The brakes need engine vacuum too.
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I agree with the above. I experience it every great once in a while. Simpy turn the key off and restart and mine is right back. Idle it up a bit.
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Thanks for the info. i turned the idle up a notch and it doesnt do it as often but still occasionaly
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Check the MAP sensor in the back of your intake. My ASR light wouldn't turn off after my cam install and it turned out to be a bent pin in the MAP sensor. Low vacuum may cause it as well. You are running a pretty big cam.
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I have a trex in my car that idles around 950-1100 according to hptuners. My ASR OFF light is on about half the time I start it
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My ASR switch would go nuts too after the 231/237 cam install.
It works fine now. I think the latest round of tuning cured it.
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Recently my SES light came on. Haven't pulled the code yet but my ASR Off and ABS INOP light are coming on for some reason.
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ASR will just call in sick if the ABS system is not
happy. ABS may (?) have some sense of a low
vac booster vacuum reserve in the power brakes?
Big cam and low RPM (especially if mis-tuned for
mixture) makes ****-poor vacuum. I think this is
the chain.
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i have the g5x2 cam 112,heads,kooks all of it and never had anything like that happen.
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My 231 does the same thing.
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Apparently this is a very common problem with the TSP 231/237 cam.

The problem that you are all having is directly related to the low vacuum the motor now produces. Those of you that are throwing codes are probably throwing P0121 - Throttle Position Performance. Your ASR/TCS also intermittantly turns itself on/off while driving around.

The fix for this is within your tuning. There is a place is LS1Edit specifically for P0121. Autotap your car and see what your MAP sensor values are in kPa, then adjust your min/max values in ls1edit. Or take the car back to the place you got it tuned at and have them do it.
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Originally Posted by xaon
Apparently this is a very common problem with the TSP 231/237 cam.

The problem that you are all having is directly related to the low vacuum the motor now produces. Those of you that are throwing codes are probably throwing P0121 - Throttle Position Performance. Your ASR/TCS also intermittantly turns itself on/off while driving around.

The fix for this is within your tuning. There is a place is LS1Edit specifically for P0121. Autotap your car and see what your MAP sensor values are in kPa, then adjust your min/max values in ls1edit. Or take the car back to the place you got it tuned at and have them do it.
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Recently my SES light came on. Haven't pulled the code yet but my ASR Off and ABS INOP light are coming on for some reason.
Hey thanks for the info. Will this cause the SES light to stay on? Mine has been on and will not go off. I reset the PCM as well and it still is on. I'm thinking I have a bad O2 sensor or something. Gonna get the code pulled today.
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that used to happen to mine after i installed the 242 242 595 595 112 cam when it idled at 950, i turned the idle up to 1200 and all is well.
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Gotta agree with the tuning... it's all in the tuning to get it to work properly. My brakes felt a little weak at low rpms while I was still untuned (just on the canned Predator tune), now that I have a custom Predator tune, I have no more driveability issues.

My idle is set at 950 with my custom tune, and 975 with A/C on... runs damn smoothly now.



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