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Old 04-05-2005, 05:41 PM
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Default Gm Perfor. Parts Ls1 To Ls6 Conversion Package???????????

Looking through summit racing catalog and saw the ls1 to ls6 package and it caught my eye. kit includes
ls6 heads
head bolts
head gaskets
ls6 cam 204/218 .550/.550 lift
waterpump gasket, crankshaft seal, bolt , valve cover gaskets.

NAL-GMP012 $1799.95

My question is is this a good heads and cam package for the money. Will the gain be worth the money. i don't want to go with an outragous head/cam package so my car won't idle and have problems down the line. i plan on doing kooks LTs 1 3/4, catted y , air lid. would this be a good setup and will i be happy with the power and SOTP difference for the money of all of these items. thanks in advance mario
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Not much gain for the money, contact MTI for one of their packages.

If you like the LS6 cam specs, I recommend the following cam:

220/224 116lsa+4

With STG 2 heads and that cam, you'll get 410+ RWHP with no problem!!!
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with that head/cam package will i have a smooth running car or will ineed to bump the idle up , car wanting to die.... i want something that makes power but don't want to live with alot of problems. also will i be able to use my stock maf, tb, ect. thanks mario
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You can run that with a 800rpm idle with no problem. It will have a little lope to it, will barley stink, & easy to tune.

Keep your stock MAF and if you want, get a ported TB.
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If it's the GM Perf parts LS6 CNC ported heads it sounds like an excellent deal and should make good power.
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I think the kit is the LS6 camshaft with standard 243 casting LS6 heads.

My opinion is that for $1799 you can probably do better, but then again you have GM reliability and a super stealth set up which can be good if that is your goal. If it were me, I would use the 243 heads with an LPE GT2-3 cam and get some really nice results.

The MTI suggestion above is also a good suggestion. When MTI has a heads/cam sale, this would be a good thing to jump on.

Good luck.

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Originally Posted by Billiumss
Not much gain for the money, contact MTI for one of their packages.

If you like the LS6 cam specs, I recommend the following cam:

220/224 116lsa+4

With STG 2 heads and that cam, you'll get 410+ RWHP with no problem!!!
That's what I would do as well!
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just got off the phone with MTI and came up with a nice setup i think will work for me.... stage 2e heads, G1 cam, pushrods, bolts and gaskets, 1 7/8 kooks LTs , ORY , and computer tune, for jsut under $4000. The guy said with thoes bolt ons should be around 425 rwhp. sounds like a winner but i am learning alot at this stage in the game, does this sound like a good setup for the money. thanks in advance mario
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That's a good price! I paid a little over 5 for basically the same thing and I already had the headers but I did get AFR heads instead of stage II LS6 heads.
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Sounds like a good h/c setup. Another great alternative would be TEA 1.5 heads with a Futral F13 cam.
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saving pennies so i can get alittle extra kick in the *** when you step on the go peddle thanks mario
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Mario,

Please re-read your first post... That G1 cam will be a lot more radical than you might think. If you insist on getting that cam, get it on at least a 116 LSA or maybe a 117 LSA

Don't get caught up in the "must have a big cam". Unless you go drag racing a lot, go smaller and you'll thank me later. I just put my 4th cam in my car this past winter and so far I love it the best! Mine is a 226 222 116lsa+2. I'm probably going turbo next winter, that why I choose those cam specs.

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They don't give you the intake too? That's pretty weak. That will have a big impact on how much airflow you can get through your heads. That will keep you quite a few horsepower shy of what an LS6 makes.
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Originally Posted by Billiumss
Mario,

Please re-read your first post... That G1 cam will be a lot more radical than you might think. If you insist on getting that cam, get it on at least a 116 LSA or maybe a 117 LSA

Don't get caught up in the "must have a big cam". Unless you go drag racing a lot, go smaller and you'll thank me later. I just put my 4th cam in my car this past winter and so far I love it the best! Mine is a 226 222 116lsa+2. I'm probably going turbo next winter, that why I choose those cam specs.

Bill

One of MTI's Stealth cam options would be great too.
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Originally Posted by Billiumss
Mario,

Please re-read your first post... That G1 cam will be a lot more radical than you might think. If you insist on getting that cam, get it on at least a 116 LSA or maybe a 117 LSA

Don't get caught up in the "must have a big cam". Unless you go drag racing a lot, go smaller and you'll thank me later. I just put my 4th cam in my car this past winter and so far I love it the best! Mine is a 226 222 116lsa+2. I'm probably going turbo next winter, that why I choose those cam specs.

Bill
I agree the G1 is a long way from the LS6 cam. One of the Stealth cams would be closer to the original intention.

MTI is still a great company to be hooked up with.
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Went down to the car shop today and talked to the guys when i picked up my 4.11 and they said the same thing. I am new to the whole cam thing and dont know alot. they said that cam is way to big and go smaller. they showed me a set of afr 225s and i liked them . i know i need the 205s and I think those are the heads i going to go with. would the stealth 2 cam be to big at 224 220 581 581 116. The guys at MTI said that i would want to run a 1 7/8 header with the head/cam package. On www.tbyrne.com exhaust the kooks description said 1 3/4 is the best for stock or head/cam cars. Which one do i want? so at this point i plan on getting the following,

afr 205s
stealth 1 or 2
kooks LTs 1 3/4 or 1 7/8 don't know which ones yet have to do reaserch
ORY Have low restrictive exhaust (stock with a cut out)
MTI clear lid
4.11s (just picked up today not installed though)


Is this a good package i put together. i have read that the stealth cams are good. the idle is good and they sound stock but that is all decieving and they make good power. thanks in advance mario
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1 7/8" LT's are generally for max effort h/c packages, or more cubes.
A set of AFR's is gonna set you back quite a bit of money.

I'd seriously consider this TEA GP if its still running....
https://ls1tech.com/forums/sponsor-sales-specials/293780-tea-5-3-stage-1-5-sale.html
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Yeah they are priced right around $2200 no core.
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Originally Posted by BTLFEDLS1
just got off the phone with MTI and came up with a nice setup i think will work for me.... stage 2e heads, G1 cam, pushrods, bolts and gaskets, 1 7/8 kooks LTs , ORY , and computer tune, for jsut under $4000. The guy said with thoes bolt ons should be around 425 rwhp. sounds like a winner but i am learning alot at this stage in the game, does this sound like a good setup for the money. thanks in advance mario
What are the specs on the G1 cam? Thanks!
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Look at the MTI 2e heads and one of their stealth cams. That would be a very nice combination.

MTI should be able to tell you what the S1 vs. S2 will do for you.

I have a TR220-114 which is very similar to the MTI S1. It's a nice mild cam.

The 1 7/8" headers would be too big (IMO), go with a nice set of 1 3/4" headers.



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