00454sscamaro

just got the new gm high tech , thought id post up the numbers they got out of the ms4 , and ms4 with stage 1's for everyone still looking for numbers with the ms4...

this is flywheel hp with no accesories-

stock cam-3k rpm=217.8hp ////////////////// ms4 cam-3k rpm=216.4hp
3.5k rpm=256hp /////////////3.5k rpm=253hp
4k rpm=307.2hp ///////////// 4k rpm=290.2
4.4k rpm=342.4hp ///////////// 4.4k rpm= 344.4hp
4.5k rpm=351.3hp ///////////// 4.5k rpm=360.7hp
5k rpm=389.7hp ////////////// 5k rpm=417.5hp
5.5k rpm=399.5hp////////////// 5.5k rpm=451.9hp
5.8k rpm=399.1hp ///////////// 5.8k rpm=465.9hp
//////////////////////////////////////////// 6k rpm=473.1hp
/////////////////////////////////////////// 6.4k rpm=482.3
////////////////////////////////////////// 6.5k rpm=482.2

peak stock cam hp400.4 411.3ft lbs///////peak- ms4hp 482.3 439.1ft lbs
avg- hp 330.69 394.85ft lbs /////////////avg- hp 370.9 407.3ft lbs





ms4+ stage 1 prc's ///////////////////////////// ms4+st1 prc's+fast90/nwtb

3k rpm hp=226.5 /////////////////////////3k rpm hp=225.4
3.5k rpm hp=262.3 ///////////////////////3.5k rpm hp=263.8
4k rpm hp=300.4 ///////////////////////4k rpm hp=306.8
4.4k rpm hp=368.3 //////////////////////4.4k rpm hp=366.9
4.5k rpm hp=383.7 //////////////////////4.5k rpm hp=383.4
5k rpm hp=441.3 //////////////////////5k rpm hp=447.9
5.5k rpm hp=482.4 /////////////////////5.5k rpm hp=498.2
5.8k rpm hp=504.2 /////////////////////5.8k rpm hp= 524
6k rpm hp=513.7 ////////////////////6k rpm hp=534
6.4k rpm hp=526.7 ////////////////////6.4k rpm hp=547
6.5k rpm hp=527 //////////////////////6.5k rpm hp= 550
6.6k rpm hp=529.5 /////////////////////6.6k rpm hp= 551
///////////////////////////////////////////////////6.7k rpm hp=550
///////////////////////////////////////////////////6.8k rpm hp= 549
peak-529.5hp @6.6k 464.3ft lbs @5.1k//peak-551hp@6.6k 476.3ft lbs@5.6k

gain of 129hp h/c ///////////gain of 151hp and 65ft lbs h/c/i
/////////////////////////////////////////// avg numbers of403.3hp 440.2ft lbs

2000TransAmWS6

iTrader: (12)

yeah, i read that last night, it was a pretty good article

that 400 hp they got in "stock" trim is alittle misleading, but about right for the mods considering that they had longtubes and LS6 intake on this 2000 LS1... thats about how much flywheel hp i had when i only had longtubes and LS6 intake. i wish they would have tested it with stock exhaust manifolds and LS1 intake manifold (even if they had to plugg the EGR hole) for their baseline.

Vcious04

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That's awesome!! That is my exact combo but with about 11.5:1 compression. I can't wait

SLP4CamaroSS

iTrader: (16)

which gmht is it?

00454sscamaro

jan 2007

SSpdDmon

iTrader: (10)

Hmm...makes me want to drop the power steering, a/c, water pump, and just run an alternator belt to pick up all the hp I'm losing on accessories.

SLP4CamaroSS

iTrader: (16)

that one is out already????

NemeSS

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got mine last sunday

Brian @ Texas Speed & Performance

iTrader: (1)

We were testing the gains of the MS4 and MS4 with Stg 1 heads. Most everyone buying either cam only or heads/cam already has LTs, LS6 intake, etc. bolted onto the car. That's why we baselined it with the bolt-ons. What would have been the point of getting a baseline of a bone-stock motor with no mods then adding the heads/cam and all the bolt-ons? The idea of the article was to get results adding heads/cam.

Brian

tmoneyr007

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does it list TQ figures?

Vcious04

iTrader: (16)

Brian, I will post results when Zach get's me my stuff..

Brian @ Texas Speed & Performance

iTrader: (1)

I believe the article does list torque #s.

Brian

4yall2nv

iTrader: (3)

so that is flywheel hp, how much should it be pushing to the wheels? do u need to flycut with this combo?

PREDATOR-Z

Flywheel hp is at the crank.
in general it is minus 10% for M6 and 15% for A4 to the wheels.

bad95killer

Nice way to show the power with Cam only and H/C together & i can't wait to get the MS4 in my buddy's '01 SS & hoping for 410rwhp

peace

The Alchemist

iTrader: (19)

Thanks for posting the info.

I take from this that the fast 90/90 setup is only benneficial from 4500 rpm and above. Considering I spend 99.9% of my time below that, I'm happy to stick with the stock ls6 intake.

Now if I ever decide to make my car a quarter mile queen, and spend lots of time from 4500-6500, then I'll change intakes, but until then, low end torque is where it's at.

Billdog350

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I've actually seen a few charts that show a LOSS of low end torque with the FAST setup! The LS6 is definitely the way to go <5000rpm. Like you said, if you're looking for that last ~10hp way up at 6000+ rpm then the FAST is the way to go...otherwise the LS6 is a very well designed intake.

Brian @ Texas Speed & Performance

iTrader: (1)

There's no need to flycut running the MS4 with the PRC stg 1 heads.

Brian

2000TransAmWS6

iTrader: (12)

i see what you're saying and i agree that people adding heads and cam to their car usually already have LS6 intake and headers,... it just seemed to me that point wasn't made in the article, instead to me it sounded like they were making the point that 'this is a stock motor from a 2000 Trans Am... but oh yeah, its got a LS6 intake on it.'
maybe i'm just being picky... maybe its just my weird intrepretation when reading it

but Brian, i am glad that article was in there, it was really cool seeing the results for the cam alone first, and then they heads added to it... there are not too many cam only MS4 dyno results floating around.

i also wanted to ask you this... the 82 hp gain from this cam that you guys posted on your website, did it come from this test?

bjamick

iTrader: (31)

i would like to see what this setup will put to the wheels on an A4 and the M6.