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Old 11-15-2009, 11:06 PM
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So im going to come out and say it (I DONT KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT NITROUS). but i am attempting to learn, so far i have purchased..

1) nitrous outlet halo spray bar kit (DRY)

2)nitrous outlet dual stage window switch

3)nitrous outlet purge kit

4) harris speed work bottle heater

i was told dry kit was a great set up for starters which i'm proud to say that i am. i only have a few questions to ask.

1) how many of you guys preffer dry over wet (trust me i've tried search)

2)i am going to be running a 383 the start of the summer what can i do to stick with dry but increase my shot to maybe a 200 or maybe even more.

3) is there a way to tell how much timing i should be pulling?

p.s. i hang out with a bunch of different car guys hondas,dms,subies,evos,stis,fords,etc.... they all give me **** for running dry, i tried explain im new to this and i wanted to start out slow but they still told me im going to F#&K my motor up with dry and i tried telling them that dry is sometimes safer can someone give me any facts about that
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im not sure why anyone would WANT to run dry at 200 or more because its stressing your fuel system greatly at that point imo...and the only way i would be caught dead spraying dry is if i had an HSW interface, lean shutoff switch, and a wideband...at least
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my fuel system will actually be upgraded to the racetronix's in 3 or 4 weeks actually.
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Originally Posted by FiFdYnUtz
im not sure why anyone would WANT to run dry at 200 or more because its stressing your fuel system greatly at that point imo...and the only way i would be caught dead spraying dry is if i had an HSW interface, lean shutoff switch, and a wideband...at least
Wet puts the same load on the fuel system unless you have a stand alone.

Are you saying you dont need the interface, lean shutoff (which is crap) and wideband if it were a wet system?
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Originally Posted by Mightymike2000ss
So im going to come out and say it (I DONT KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT NITROUS). but i am attempting to learn, so far i have purchased..

1) nitrous outlet halo spray bar kit (DRY)

2)nitrous outlet dual stage window switch

3)nitrous outlet purge kit

4) harris speed work bottle heater

i was told dry kit was a great set up for starters which i'm proud to say that i am. i only have a few questions to ask.

1) how many of you guys preffer dry over wet (trust me i've tried search)

2)i am going to be running a 383 the start of the summer what can i do to stick with dry but increase my shot to maybe a 200 or maybe even more.

3) is there a way to tell how much timing i should be pulling?

p.s. i hang out with a bunch of different car guys hondas,dms,subies,evos,stis,fords,etc.... they all give me **** for running dry, i tried explain im new to this and i wanted to start out slow but they still told me im going to F#&K my motor up with dry and i tried telling them that dry is sometimes safer can someone give me any facts about that
1) Me.
2) Depends on current set up and if it will max out components. Also depends on what other mods, ecu, etc.
3) Spark plugs. There are general rules but that can really be tossed out the window when people start advancing their timing n/a.

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i will probably end up working my way up currently im starting with a 50 shot on the spray bar because the car only has a mail order tune. once the car gets tuned ill work my way up and if i need to upgrade. i wont have any problem with that and by then hopefully ill be knowledgeable on dry set ups..
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Originally Posted by ATVracr
Wet puts the same load on the fuel system unless you have a stand alone.

Are you saying you dont need the interface, lean shutoff (which is crap) and wideband if it were a wet system?
well considering your utilizing your fuel injectors/fuel system to inject the extra fuel needed in a dry kit, your wrong about that, although the wet DOES pull fuel from the rail, it doesnt need the car to compensate from the nitrous, it does that with its own selenoid, its just another route for the fuel to travel to....

and an interface would be completely pointless on a wet kit as well...do you even know what the interface does? and if so, explain to me how that would have anything to do with a wet kit? it commands the factory fuel system to compensate automatically for the dry kit when activated..

a lean shutoff switch is also a good idea, not sure what you would think its crap?

and last, yeah your right, a wideband is a good idea with a wet kit as well, but i never said it was only for a dry kit..
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Originally Posted by FiFdYnUtz
well considering your utilizing your fuel injectors/fuel system to inject the extra fuel needed in a dry kit, your wrong about that, although the wet DOES pull fuel from the rail, it doesnt need the car to compensate from the nitrous, it does that with its own selenoid, its just another route for the fuel to travel to....

and an interface would be completely pointless on a wet kit as well...do you even know what the interface does? and if so, explain to me how that would have anything to do with a wet kit? it commands the factory fuel system to compensate automatically for the dry kit when activated..

a lean shutoff switch is also a good idea, not sure what you would think its crap?

and last, yeah your right, a wideband is a good idea with a wet kit as well, but i never said it was only for a dry kit..
What are you trying to prove?
I'll humor you ....

You said fuel system not injectors.... fuel needs for 150 shot is the same wet or dry doesnt matter.

Interface can be used to pull timing, very important !

At what point does the lean shut off work? do you even know?
Why not have a rich shut off? you wont hurt it rich right? lol

I have forgot more about spraying a DRY shot then you know.
in 2006 ..2 stage DRY (250 shot, 2 single nozzles before the MAF) on stock computer pump gas ....
Here is the video http://www.glenburnieracing.com/videos/gb1.asx
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was that the 396? and the ls1 spyder intake?
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Originally Posted by smok'nZ
was that the 396? and the ls1 spyder intake?
396 with 90mm fast intake.
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well considering buying an interface instead of a timing tuner to solely pull timing is rediculous...and the fact that the lean shutoff is adjustable for rich OR lean conditions that you set i would say i dont give two ***** how much you have sprayed because your comments are wrong..
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Originally Posted by FiFdYnUtz
the fact that the lean shutoff is adjustable for rich OR lean conditions that you set i would say i dont give two ***** how much you have sprayed because your comments are wrong..
So buy 2 of them and put them on your slow ****.

Maybe so, been wrong before. good luck
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haha, ok dude...real mature...all hail mr. 9 second club!
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My last motor blew on a halo bar with a 100 shot.

I would run a dry shot again, but I would not rely on the maf to add fuel. I would add fuel via hp tuners using my iat tricker.
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Originally Posted by slammin86
My last motor blew on a halo bar with a 100 shot.

I would run a dry shot again, but I would not rely on the maf to add fuel. I would add fuel via hp tuners using my iat tricker.
from what ive been reading i think i might of gotten the wrong kit dont get me wrong im not talking about dry im talking about the spray bar spraying before the MAF....

what exactly happend? is there anyway to make my spray bar set up safe...
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im not sure how the spray bar works but dry is generally going to be spraying through the maf so your pcm can command the extra fuel for it...the only other way to spray after the maf irc is with an interface or tuning that adds extra fuel on its own...
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yeah fifdy i was reading up on robert56 he mentiond something how the spray bar kit from nitrous dave's and the HSW interface go hand in hand......
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https://ls1tech.com/forums/nitrous-o...-dry-shot.html

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yeah i would definitely pick one of them up, they seem pretty **** for dry systems...


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