General LSX Automobile Discussion - Speedometer past 155

Next year I'm dropping either a 440 or 454 LSX in my trans am. As a lot of you know that's a lot of power! With power comes a lot of speed. The odometer's only show 155. I was wondering if anyone has came up with a mod to get a speedometer to show faster then 155? Like a custom looking gauge or something of the sort. I have looked online and I haven't seen much about it. So thats just going to be one small mod on my car.

So if anyone has any ideas or has done something like this to a Trans am or Camaro please let me know. Pictures are good with mod's.

http://6litereaterdesigns.com/store/product_info.php?cPath=166_22_36_76&products_id=262

they can do anything you want to with the gauges..

That's good on the gauges but is it hard to calibrate the speedometer to the new gauge lay out for it to read from 1 to 200? It cant be that hard can it?

First, Greetings from Mazar-i-Sharif...

Second, they can recalibrate your Speedo when you get it put in.

First, Greetings from Mazar-i-Sharif...

Second, they can recalibrate your Speedo when you get it put in.
So they can do that without the car having to be there? I'm just wondering because I wouldn't know at all what to do. But I guess i could find someone local to do it.

You going to the salt flats? Why should you care to go faster than 155mph? Just saying... should be the least of your problems running a powerful motor like that. But if your worried about speed regulators or what not I'm sure your tune with the new motor would fix all that, and what does a buried needle cause but unsightliness.

http://www.granatellimotorsports.com/products/1999_02_LS1_F_Body_200_MPH_Speedometer_Gauge_Face_ ONLY_Black-302-10.html

well if you can hit 200 mph why not have a speedo to show it, its not hard to do, and i know if I go to a texas mile event with mine I want a 200 mph speedo

Very true. I guess he never really specified his intentions with the motor upgrade, which is basically what I was trying to get at.

+1 for 6LE overlay. I just have the normal overlay for mine as i don't plan on doing over 155 again anytime soon, but as someone mentioned you can get yours recalibrated. Also I have an Aeroforce gauge which shows many different outputs from the car, one of which is MPH, so thats another option.

Very true. I guess he never really specified his intentions with the motor upgrade, which is basically what I was trying to get at.

Doesn't really matter "why" he wants to do it. He didn't ask for anyone's approval he just asked if the gauge technology would support it. Where is your internet police badge?


And to Blazen Fire, with a motor like that, you might need something past 200 depending on how its built! Have fun buddy! :drive:

So they can do that without the car having to be there? I'm just wondering because I wouldn't know at all what to do. But I guess i could find someone local to do it.

If you find someone let me know. I scoured the country and found ONE guy who turned out to be local.

He can easily do it without the car, he's an electronics guru. You basically have to replace the drivers...

Something else to consider though, especially since the motor is changing, you could always do an aftermarket gauge set up...

If you find someone let me know. I scoured the country and found ONE guy who turned out to be local.

He can easily do it without the car, he's an electronics guru. You basically have to replace the drivers...

Something else to consider though, especially since the motor is changing, you could always do an aftermarket gauge set up...
Well to be honest man I have no idea on what to do. I just know with the type of power that I am looking for (that being 650+ to the wheels at least) I was going to need a bigger odometer. But Im going to completely gut and redo my 2001 Trans am that Im picking up Wednesday or Thursday. I have a lot of stuff Im doing to this car. This is my first complete build ever. I just have seen alot of video's with the gauges topping out at 155 easy. So I told myself I want to see mine go past that mark. So I thought a simple gauge upgrade would help and of course a complete calibrated and tuned in adjustments.

Doesn't really matter "why" he wants to do it. He didn't ask for anyone's approval he just asked if the gauge technology would support it. Where is your internet police badge?


And to Blazen Fire, with a motor like that, you might need something past 200 depending on how its built! Have fun buddy! :drive:

lol do you think a car like that can actually handle speeds over 200? I mean I know the super cars can hold together but can a Trans am hold together with that much force. I know tires are defiantly going to be a a big factor. I would hate to see my "Superhawk Hood" explode at those speeds lol

6LE can do it but if youre looking at your speedo after 150, your fuckin crazy.... Ever been 150+? I have, shit gets hairy no matter what youre driving.. Good luck man....

You going to the salt flats? Why should you care to go faster than 155mph? Just saying... should be the least of your problems running a powerful motor like that. But if your worried about speed regulators or what not I'm sure your tune with the new motor would fix all that, and what does a buried needle cause but unsightliness. I care because I would like to know just for the simple fact I built this beast and I want to know her top speed (if I can reach it) But if it takes me going to the Salt Flats in Utah, then you beat that me and my car will be there to join the 200 mile pre hour club lol. But to watch a needle get buried is fun but its not for me. Im just craving more I guess. I want to completely customize my car from top to bottom. Just a modification I want is all.

6LE can do it but if youre looking at your speedo after 150, your fuckin crazy.... Ever been 150+? I have, shit gets hairy no matter what youre driving.. Good luck man....
lol to be honest I have only been 130. At that speed my blood was BUMPING for sure. But its so funny after you slow down to 70 everything is moving in slow motion lol Well it seemed like I was going slow. But yea thanks for the info for sure. Yea I saw all his gauges and about how custom you can go on them. Boy did my brain ever start working on ideas. Like having a led "LSX" symbol where the rev limiter is and what color it should be. Im just getting ideas together. I read so much on here about builds, small custom's done to the cars, and just peoples out look on there own ride. Reading them drives me to want to do more to my ride. Just something that has got me through this deployment really.

http://www.granatellimotorsports.com/products/1999_02_LS1_F_Body_200_MPH_Speedometer_Gauge_Face_ ONLY_Black-302-10.html

Thank you very much for that link man! Thats pretty much what I was asking for! But the 6liter ones are very customizable and I think Im going to go with him.

simple answer , use a gps

simple answer , use a gps
lol na I want that odometer! To watch tac rise!

Doesn't really matter "why" he wants to do it. He didn't ask for anyone's approval he just asked if the gauge technology would support it. Where is your internet police badge?


And to Blazen Fire, with a motor like that, you might need something past 200 depending on how its built! Have fun buddy! :drive:

Where is your stfu badge. I was just pointing out if it was worth it or not. Go play somewhere else.

I care because I would like to know just for the simple fact I built this beast and I want to know her top speed (if I can reach it) But if it takes me going to the Salt Flats in Utah, then you beat that me and my car will be there to join the 200 mile pre hour club lol. But to watch a needle get buried is fun but its not for me. Im just craving more I guess. I want to completely customize my car from top to bottom. Just a modification I want is all.

I got you man, it seems like you want to get your Ricky Bobby on ultimately. I know this 4th Gen got over 200mph (or 199), so its possible in a 4th gen. I believe Speed Inc. built the motor.

http://www.youtube.com/user/boostnation#p/u/45/Nm_A-Zl5d6k

I think a 4th gen Camaro went 220+ at Texas Mile this year. All it takes is power.

I know of 2 Corvettes here with limited edition 300mph speedos. They are just show cars so it's only for looks but they have them.

6LE can do it but if youre looking at your speedo after 150, your fuckin crazy.... Ever been 150+? I have, shit gets hairy no matter what youre driving.. Good luck man....

Speed never kills u its the sudden stop !!!! I was cruising @ 175 mph in my Vette for about 10 miles and it was not bad but your all done @ that speed if anything bad happens !!!

simple answer , use a gps

That's what I did and it is more accurate anyway... With my old motor the GF cried uncle at 172.6mph. I know 175 was in it but oh well..... When I was stock suspension 150 started getting spooky so put some good shocks/springs on first. Strano stuff is how I did/would go..

Thank you very much for that link man! Thats pretty much what I was asking for! But the 6liter ones are very customizable and I think Im going to go with him.


I like my 6le speedo. You'll have to remove the restriction in the pcm also, i believe the limiter in the ls1's with z rated tires is 162 mph.

http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x303/lees02ws6/Trans%20Am%20Pictures/gaugecluster.jpg

The fastest I've gone in the trans am is 140. The fastest I've driven a car is just shy of 200 (no 200 mph club for me), but that was in a lambo.

Where is your stfu badge. I was just pointing out if it was worth it or not. Go play somewhere else.

I'll let you hang on to it for me, thanks! :engarde:

For all those "why do you ever need that" comments - who cares? A lot of you guys have mods that anyone could ask "why do you need that" and the answer is simple - because you wanna :lol:

I like my 6le speedo. You'll have to remove the restriction in the pcm also, i believe the limiter in the ls1's with z rated tires is 162 mph.

http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x303/lees02ws6/Trans%20Am%20Pictures/gaugecluster.jpg

The fastest I've gone in the trans am is 140. The fastest I've driven a car is just shy of 200 (no 200 mph club for me), but that was in a lambo.



that looks nice.

that looks nice.

Yeah it does:devil:

The fastest I've gone in the trans am is 140. The fastest I've driven a car is just shy of 200 (no 200 mph club for me), but that was in a lambo.

Nothing,

Try taking a prius over 110. Thats an edge of your seat rush. I took my exes to about 112 and the best thing about that is those cars speedometers hold the highest achieved speed, like a GPS. So i pray that her dad one day finds that and just sighs.....

I once saw a video of a highly modified LS1 Camaro at the Texas mile, it's just a 1 or 2 mile long runway. Well anyways, this Camaro was pushing out tons of power, he got the car up to 244MPH...and they showed an inside view of the car, he could barely keep the damn thing straight, and everything was shaking like an earthquake in there. Right after he hit 244 and started to slow down he lost control of the car, skidded sideways to the right and then back to the left for at least a couple of hundred feet before he got the car straight again. At those speeds going almost sideways he's lucky he didn't flip it.

Here's the video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yYGK2WU0ZLk

Nothing,

Try taking a prius over 110. Thats an edge of your seat rush. I took my exes to about 112 and the best thing about that is those cars speedometers hold the highest achieved speed, like a GPS. So i pray that her dad one day finds that and just sighs.....

Holy crap I didn't think a prius could even get near that :jest:

I would love an OEM looking gauge that goes to 200.

To this day the C6 Corvette has the best gauges I have seen.

Does anyone have one of these gauge setups? How do you like it? Oh and not to burst any bubbles but it takes well into the 700+rwhp range to get around 200mph. You'll probably see low 600's with a LSX454 unless its a really high compression race gas/E-85 motor. Also to join the 200mph club in Bonneville, you need to set a record over 200....not just go over 200....I already looked into it lol

Does anyone have one of these gauge setups? How do you like it? Oh and not to burst any bubbles but it takes well into the 700+rwhp range to get around 200mph. You'll probably see low 600's with a LSX454 unless its a really high compression race gas/E-85 motor. Also to join the 200mph club in Bonneville, you need to set a record over 200....not just go over 200....I already looked into it lol

Over 700WHP to get to 200MPH...? So I guess the Corvette Z06 with only 505HP, and 450WHP can't break 200MPH. And the Corvette ZR1 with only 638HP and 580WHP can't break 200MPH either.

The fastest speed a stock LS1 has ever achieved without the limiter was around 180MPH, stock that means 350HP. And you think it takes 350HP more to hit 200MPH?

Over 700WHP to get to 200MPH...? So I guess the Corvette Z06 with only 505HP, and 450WHP can't break 200MPH. And the Corvette ZR1 with only 638HP and 580WHP can't break 200MPH either.

The fastest speed a stock LS1 has ever achieved without the limiter was around 180MPH, stock that means 350HP. And you think it takes 350HP more to hit 200MPH?

he may have been talking about f-bods since they are far less aerodynamic, but even then i think 550+ whp will get a lowered f-bod to 200 easy.

Yea...sorry I should have specified lol. It takes a lot of power to go faster and faster....the faster you go the more you need to over come, downforce, air/wind, rolling resistance, and much more. I was also talking about the standing mile...you should be able to do it with a little less power but once again unless your running in a specific catagory trying to break a record their usually pretty tight about that stuff. Wheres that record for that 180mph run and what was it in?

I once saw a video of a highly modified LS1 Camaro at the Texas mile, it's just a 1 or 2 mile long runway. Well anyways, this Camaro was pushing out tons of power, he got the car up to 244MPH...and they showed an inside view of the car, he could barely keep the damn thing straight, and everything was shaking like an earthquake in there. Right after he hit 244 and started to slow down he lost control of the car, skidded sideways to the right and then back to the left for at least a couple of hundred feet before he got the car straight again. At those speeds going almost sideways he's lucky he didn't flip it.

Here's the video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yYGK2WU0ZLk

that guy has some serious balls.

that car looks like it was about to come apart big time.

That car just went 249 its last outing. It makes right around 1800rwhp but they run lower boost for the events since they can't get the car to hook lol

Yea...sorry I should have specified lol. It takes a lot of power to go faster and faster....the faster you go the more you need to over come, downforce, air/wind, rolling resistance, and much more. I was also talking about the standing mile...you should be able to do it with a little less power but once again unless your running in a specific catagory trying to break a record their usually pretty tight about that stuff. Wheres that record for that 180mph run and what was it in?

So frustrating, I can't find the video. I once saw a video made in 1997, they tested an assortment of cars in that year and their top speed. Mustang GT with no limiter hit 143MPH.

The LT1 Camaro Z28 or SS, forget which one, went 172MPH!

I'm fairly sure the LS1 in 2002 would have just enough power to overcome 172MPH and touch 180MPH.

Yea possibly on a very long good surface.. perfect conditions with a tail wind...other then that I highly doubt it....doable? I guess so lol

Yea possibly on a very long good surface.. perfect conditions with a tail wind...other then that I highly doubt it....doable? I guess so lol

I can't find the video right now, but I know I saw the 1997 Camaro go over 170MPH in a test with a long runway, it's very believable that the LS1 Camaro could hit 180MPH.

http://www.guerragroup.com/2000TA.htm

http://youtu.be/MdfiJC9hKFY

That looks like so much fun. I want to do that sometime.

I've had my SS over 155. Not sure how fast it was but it was well past the 155. I guess I don't understand everyone's concern about it being scary and unstable. My suspension is all stock and the car felt stable and well-planted. I was more worried about encountering a police car than anything else. I was on a nice, flat, straight road with good visibility and no traffic. No big deal really. My 2006 Eclipse on the other hand, that car was a handful past 130. I would have no reservations about driving my Camaro past 160 if it wasn't for the pesky speed limits /cops.

I've had my SS over 155. Not sure how fast it was but it was well past the 155. I guess I don't understand everyone's concern about it being scary and unstable. My suspension is all stock and the car felt stable and well-planted. I was more worried about encountering a police car than anything else. I was on a nice, flat, straight road with good visibility and no traffic. No big deal really. My 2006 Eclipse on the other hand, that car was a handful past 130. I would have no reservations about driving my Camaro past 160 if it wasn't for the pesky speed limits /cops.

Well what's the mileage on your car? I've got 70,000 on my stock suspension, and it gets a bit shaky past 120MPH.

People are scared of those speeds usually because anything bad that happens at those speeds is almost certain death, or at least a very bad wreck.

Last thing I would be worried about is a cop, at 155MPH is he really going to be able to chase you?

Another thing to consider if you just want to be able to know how fast your going is to learn how fast you are going at what RPM in what gear. Then you will be able to know how fast your going because even though the speedo will be burried at 155 the RPM's will continue to rise. That's how all the race car drivers do it since most don't have speedometers.

My car has 66,000 mi, but it's been babied and never been a daily driver. I keep everything like new.

Since you're at NAS Meridian, you may be familiar with the phrase "behind the power curve." I know that phrase has been bastardized, but for aviators, it means things are happening faster than you can process them and respond. The airplane is flying you. IMO if you can't see far enough to react, and you're not going around a closed course where you know what to expect, this is not the time to go fast.

Oh and let's understand one thing: You pass a cop at 150+, they WILL catch you. You can't sustain those speeds. The cop can only go 130 or so, but he can sustain it. It isn't even his car, so he doesn't care. Plus he has a radio, and every cop in the WORLD will come and help. Yes passing a cop at that speed is a valid concern, and probably a night in the slammer.

My car has 66,000 mi, but it's been babied and never been a daily driver. I keep everything like new.

Since you're at NAS Meridian, you may be familiar with the phrase "behind the power curve." I know that phrase has been bastardized, but for aviators, it means things are happening faster than you can process them and respond. The airplane is flying you. IMO if you can't see far enough to react, and you're not going around a closed course where you know what to expect, this is not the time to go fast.

Oh and let's understand one thing: You pass a cop at 150+, they WILL catch you. You can't sustain those speeds. The cop can only go 130 or so, but he can sustain it. It isn't even his car, so he doesn't care. Plus he has a radio, and every cop in the WORLD will come and help. Yes passing a cop at that speed is a valid concern, and probably a night in the slammer.

At 155MPH the cop will only see the color and maybe the type of car...if you see the cop begin to pull out after you, or suspect he might engage and chase you, then all you have to do is take the next exit and get off the road. Sure he can radio ahead, but what good will that do if he doesn't know what road you're on? Car might be hot in the area for a little bit, but it's not like they have your license plate number.

I usually jump off 1 or 2 exits after and duck off into some side streets....its worked so far lol

At 155MPH the cop will only see the color and maybe the type of car...if you see the cop begin to pull out after you, or suspect he might engage and chase you, then all you have to do is take the next exit and get off the road. Sure he can radio ahead, but what good will that do if he doesn't know what road you're on? Car might be hot in the area for a little bit, but it's not like they have your license plate number.

Are you seriously discussing how to evade law enforcement? :rolleyes:

If you (or anyone, really) go at such ridiculous speeds on public roadways and get caught I'll be one of the last people to have any sympathy for you. If you wreck your car in the process I'll feel bad for the car, but not really for you. I just hope that if you did wreck, it wouldn't involve anyone else as nobody deserves to have some moron ruin their day (or their life, as the case may be sometimes).

Yeah getting caught driving triple digit speeds, even under the safest conditions will go down in your history as a shit-for-brains stunt, and cost you some $$$, but no biggy. Evading them is a felony and pretty much the end of your happy life unless you make your living dealing dope.

That said, you should go to a NASCAR race. A car going 155 is not a blur. Reading plates may be a stretch but getting a good description is not. The risks of trying to escape at this point are A. You sustain your high speeds and crash. B. You slow down, preserving your life and get caught. C. You make your series of exits/turns only to encounter one of the 30 cops hurtling in that direction and get tossed in the hole.

Sorry to take this otherwise useful thread on a tangent but please, if you pull a top speed run and get nabbed, pull over and take your medicine. The risks of trying to ditch law enforcement are too great. And remember: cops drive fast, all day, every day. No one has the balls to drive as fast as a cop who's been on the streets a few years. Do not underestimate how fast the shit will be up to your neck if you pull a stunt like this.

I'm fairly sure the LS1 in 2002 would have just enough power to overcome 172MPH and touch 180MPH.

Yeaaa, I doubt that's possible.

Are you seriously discussing how to evade law enforcement? :rolleyes:

If you (or anyone, really) go at such ridiculous speeds on public roadways and get caught I'll be one of the last people to have any sympathy for you. If you wreck your car in the process I'll feel bad for the car, but not really for you. I just hope that if you did wreck, it wouldn't involve anyone else as nobody deserves to have some moron ruin their day (or their life, as the case may be sometimes).

I agree, even if you are able to evade them initially, there's also a chance that they will catch up to you eventually anyways.

Are you seriously discussing how to evade law enforcement? :rolleyes:

If you (or anyone, really) go at such ridiculous speeds on public roadways and get caught I'll be one of the last people to have any sympathy for you. If you wreck your car in the process I'll feel bad for the car, but not really for you. I just hope that if you did wreck, it wouldn't involve anyone else as nobody deserves to have some moron ruin their day (or their life, as the case may be sometimes).

If you look at my earlier post I have the lowest speed of anyone on here. I'm the last person you will find going the reckless speeds of 150MPH or more. I'm just saying that a cop's chances of catching you going 150MPH or faster are extremely low.

Ever watch America's wildest police chase videos? notice how all the cars on there are SUV's, V6 cars, or 4 bangers? How many Mustangs, Camaros, Firebirds, Corvettes, Vipers, or other high performance cars do you see on there? Probably next to none, and you can't tell me that cops don't chase those cars...I'm betting a lot of those people are fast enough to get away, or fast enough where the cop can't give chase.

Yeaaa, I doubt that's possible.



Hmm, so the 1997 Camaro SS with the LT1 can hit 172MPH without the governor...but a 2002 SS with over 50HP more can't get at least 8MPH more?

Hmm, so the 1997 Camaro SS with the LT1 can hit 172MPH without the governor...but a 2002 SS with over 50HP more can't get at least 8MPH more?

Absolutely not. There is no way a stock LT1/LS1 F-Body is going to come close to 180 stock, it simply does not have the power, gearing or weight to do it. Actually, I believe that's about where a stock C5 Z would top out at, probably a little less.

Absolutely not. There is no way a stock LT1/LS1 F-Body is going to come close to 180 stock, it simply does not have the power, gearing or weight to do it. Actually, I believe that's about where a stock C5 Z would top out at, probably a little less.

I think the C5 was rated around 180, I don't doubt an F-body could get around the same speeds with the same power and close to the same aero drag. C5Z only does 170ish because of the lower gear ratios (tops out in 5th, not enough power to pull 6th). I don't see a stock LT1 getting much over 160 though.

I think the C5 was rated around 180, I don't doubt an F-body could get around the same speeds with the same power and close to the same aero drag. C5Z only does 170ish because of the lower gear ratios (tops out in 5th, not enough power to pull 6th). I don't see a stock LT1 getting much over 160 though.

Well, I still can't see a stock LS1 F-Body reaching speeds of up to 180 stock. I will have to see that to believe it. It has 290-310rwhp, 6 speeds have a 6th gear that does nothing once you shift into it unless you're making some serious power, and it weighs like 3400-3600 pounds on average. 170 or so is more reasonable, but 180? I don't think so, not stock. That's just me and how I see it though.

LT1's I don't see getting too far over 160 either.

Well, I still can't see a stock LS1 F-Body reaching speeds of up to 180 stock. I will have to see that to believe it. It has 290-310rwhp, 6 speeds have a 6th gear that does nothing once you shift into it unless you're making some serious power, and it weighs like 3400-3600 pounds on average. 170 or so is more reasonable, but 180? I don't think so, not stock. That's just me and how I see it though.

LT1's I don't see getting too far over 160 either.

My car weighs 3,440, full weight, without me in it. If I'm right a manual LS1 F-body should weigh a little bit less.

I know the video of the 1997 Camaro SS hitting 172MPH exists, just give me some time to dig it up. And if the late model LT1 can break 170MPH, then I know the LS1 can get a little bit faster.

I wish i had validation on the speed thing... 1998 SS M6 w/ 66k on the clock... subframe connectors, LCA's, 3:73's, Mac mids, true duals w/ high flow cats and custom mufflers, Z06 rims, and a few other small mods... I was clock by a friend of mine (county sheriff) around 2am on a 2 mile stretch of road at 174. Dont say it cant be done, b/c i've been there.... The car sat down around 150 and got more stable the higher i got up to about 170 and then it began to lift.

My brother took the car up to around 165 and then let off...

Like i said, I wish i had proof of that night but he was killed a few years ago when an asshole ran him over

I topped my 99 stock Z28 six speed(free mods only) in 5th gear, it bumped the limiter in 5th. Anyone know how fast that is?

I topped my 99 stock Z28 six speed(free mods only) in 5th gear, it bumped the limiter in 5th. Anyone know how fast that is?

Speed limiter is right around 162...Unless you mean the rev limiter?

Speed limiter is right around 162...Unless you mean the rev limiter?

Yes bumped the rev limiter.

~180 then.

I talked to one of the top dogs at SLP in the day, he said he took a WS6 to Talladega and was a passenger for a top speed run with a pro driver. The prep was upping the tire pressures, 93 or 94 octane but he did not mention a speed limiter that I can remember. Oh yeah, they got that car up to 274 km/h on the straight. This car was not a test mule, it was his personal (company car, I assume) vehicle. He said an equivalent Camaro SS may be a couple of ticks (at most) due to aerodynamics. So 170 mph or so is possible, 180mph would be unlikely for a production stock car. He works for Ferrari North America now, BTW.

Update on mine, I took my Garmin Nuvi 1300 with me last night, my speed limiter is still on after the tune, 5500 in 5th hits the SPEED limiter at 161.

The Nuvi is cool, has a separate page for top speed and shows max speed.

I topped off the tank with 93 and beat the buggs out of the K&N the day I bought my 99 z28 after it sat in a ATL Doctor's garage for 3 years. I hit 166 mph GPS with the top down and a passenger, over 500 lbs between both passengers. I put the top and 5% windows up as I exited the off ramp, 3State Patrol Chargers Hit the on ramp sideways. Triple black down to the wheels and no drive out tag. LOL So I believe the stock should read 170mph.

P.S. try 143 mph in a Nissan Titan on 22' steel wheels. Id rather do 200 in the Z28...