Street Racing & Kill Stories - auto camaro 2010 L99 vs auto 5.0 mustang gt

El mero maro mods are tune only and straight pipe

Fordv8302 mustang 5.0 mods: 410s gears, CAI, real tune, cat delete and gt500 mufflers

Enjoy!!!

first race is a 25roll
http://m.youtube.com/index?desktop_uri=%2F&gl=US#/watch?v=jw3We5jOcfM

second run was a 50roll
http://m.youtube.com/index?desktop_uri=%2F&gl=US#/watch?v=lv5cHenYvEU

thrid is a 30roll
http://m.youtube.com/index?desktop_uri=%2F&gl=US#/watch?v=ohUnkTAHbg8

DIG him riding solo
http://m.youtube.com/index?desktop_uri=%2F&gl=US#/watch?v=6bhs5E7ZkJE

40roll him riding solo (not my roll)
http://m.youtube.com/index?desktop_uri=%2F&gl=US#/watch?v=A8XDXFQwCA8

and lastly was a 20roll
http://m.youtube.com/index?desktop_uri=%2F&gl=US#/watch?v=2fwJCsRlxBA

thanks for watching .... I am happy the way my car is running considering his mods :)

Links are :turd:

well I watched video's form my phone and he pulled you pretty hard each time. On teh dig runs he had soem traction issues but walked by you and kept on walking.

Next considering his mods? He has 3 mods that really work. The gears/tune/and x pipe. The cold air he shouldn't have wasted his money on. And what is a real tune? All other tunes are fake? Yes some are not equal but they are still yunes.

what are your mods again? As I see it looks like his only advantage over your mods is the gears.

I would assume a real tune is a dyno tune and not a canned one.

You got yanked pretty good....not a great showing for sure.

I would assume a real tune is a dyno tune and not a canned one.

You got yanked pretty good....not a great showing for sure.

Did you just say a 5.0 yanked a SS...

El mero maro mods are tune only and straight pipe

Fordv8302 mustang 5.0 mods: 410s gears, CAI, real tune, cat delete and gt500 mufflers

Enjoy!!!

first race is a 25roll
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jw3We5jOcfM&feature=g-wl&context=G2986011AWAAAAAAAFAA

second run was a 50roll
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lv5cHenYvEU&feature=g-wl&context=G29fb113AWAAAAAAAEAA

thrid is a 30roll
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ohUnkTAHbg8&feature=g-wl&context=G29646f6AWAAAAAAADAA

DIG him riding solo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6bhs5E7ZkJE&feature=g-wl&context=G2b683d8AWAAAAAAACAA

40roll him riding solo (not my roll)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A8XDXFQwCA8&feature=g-wl&context=G2fa42c6AWAAAAAAABAA

and lastly was a 20roll
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2fwJCsRlxBA&feature=g-wl&context=G2fbf33fAWAAAAAAAAAA

thanks for watching .... I am happy the way my car is running considering his mods :)

Nice races. Good looking 5.0 too.

Links are :turd:

Don't be grumpy. :D

well I watched video's form my phone and he pulled you pretty hard each time. On teh dig runs he had soem traction issues but walked by you and kept on walking.

Next considering his mods? He has 3 mods that really work. The gears/tune/and x pipe. The cold air he shouldn't have wasted his money on. And what is a real tune? All other tunes are fake? Yes some are not equal but they are still yunes.

what are your mods again? As I see it looks like his only advantage over your mods is the gears.

Most cars just get canned tune which idk what that meabs but last time i raced him some guy said the reason he runs so good its because it has a real tune. Btw my mods are tune and straight pipe (which everybody says it kills top end) i have a slap on tune. No WOT runs no nothing not even AFR ...... So whats your point??? An intake its an intake idc if "its a waste" that sounds like a personal problem to me, o and 410s gears. You know thats a gain buddy. And the first couple of runs werent that bad as i would of think .... I love how my 400hp l99 is running :)

Most cars just get canned tune which idk what that meabs but last time i raced him some guy said the reason he runs so good its because it has a real tune. Btw my mods are tune and straight pipe (which everybody says it kills top end) i have a slap on tune. No WOT runs no nothing not even AFR ...... So whats your point??? An intake its an intake idc if "its a waste" that sounds like a personal problem to me, o and 410s gears. You know thats a gain buddy. And the first couple of runs werent that bad as i would of think .... I love how my 400hp l99 is running :)

If he went from a Ford procal(shown gains of 8whp) tune to a Lethal Performance tune(shown 20whp) he is still getting a canned tune or slap on tune. ALthough one is a POS tune and the other is a REAL TUNE as you put it. As I also stated the 4.10 gears helped him. So your 3.27 gears vs his 4.10's. It is what is. And yes a CAI is just that. But test have shown they are a waste of money plain and simple. That the stock Air Box out performs them. You see gains cause every one is testing with hood open where the Open filters of teh aftermarket ones perform great. The stock boc intake is still closed so hood open or shut makes no difference. Running the aftermarket with hood close shows no gains at the track/street/dyno. It is pretty though. You both have no cats so no difference. And GT500 mufflers do nothing but add sound.

So needless to say all your excuses are kinda just that excusses for getting spanked bad. Add some gears. Betting it don't make up for teh way he pulled you. Geuss you need get the rest them mods on you say you have. :corn:

I love how my 400hp l99 is running well you must love getting your ass kicked lol,good runs but damn that was a beatin, cant win them all, you need to get that heavy tank moving

If he went from a Ford procal(shown gains of 8whp) tune to a Lethal Performance tune(shown 20whp) he is still getting a canned tune or slap on tune. ALthough one is a POS tune and the other is a REAL TUNE as you put it. As I also stated the 4.10 gears helped him. So your 3.27 gears vs his 4.10's. It is what is. And yes a CAI is just that. But test have shown they are a waste of money plain and simple. That the stock Air Box out performs them. You see gains cause every one is testing with hood open where the Open filters of teh aftermarket ones perform great. The stock boc intake is still closed so hood open or shut makes no difference. Running the aftermarket with hood close shows no gains at the track/street/dyno. It is pretty though. You both have no cats so no difference. And GT500 mufflers do nothing but add sound.

So needless to say all your excuses are kinda just that excusses for getting spanked bad. Add some gears. Betting it don't make up for teh way he pulled you. Geuss you need get the rest them mods on you say you have. :corn:

I dont need them like i said i am happy the way my car is running, seems like everybody is right you are a ford nutswinger, i am sure if he had 315s it wouldve been a different story WAY different, and gt500 creates back pressure something i dont have. I am not worry that he beat me it wont be the last time ill loose so i am ok with it and them first runs werent as bad as i tought they would be considering his mods .... Idc if the intake dont help like i said but it cost him money didnt it.?? Ok then well i say if i was to put the SAME exact mods itll wouldve been a different outcome. I can make so many more pros and cons from the 5.0 to camaros, idk why you keep swinging on fords balls its not like ford swings on yours but anyways only if my tuner had enough time to do me a retune i would have dont my mods already

well you must love getting your ass kicked lol,good runs but damn that was a beatin, cant win them all, you need to get that heavy tank moving

Getting my ass beating really.?? You call that a beating i mean the first 2 runs werent as bad. How do i know if the others he didnt used a lil dope ... I never thought about it until my brother saw the videos and said why were the first ones very close and the other ones werent, i mean he does have a nitrous kit on it. Thats not a beating i have goten smoked worsed, this is just my daily i am more into my truck than the car

I dont need them like i said i am happy the way my car is running, seems like everybody is right you are a ford nutswinger, i am sure if he had 315s it wouldve been a different story WAY different, and gt500 creates back pressure something i dont have. I am not worry that he beat me it wont be the last time ill loose so i am ok with it and them first runs werent as bad as i tought they would be considering his mods .... Idc if the intake dont help like i said but it cost him money didnt it.?? Ok then well i say if i was to put the SAME exact mods itll wouldve been a different outcome. I can make so many more pros and cons from the 5.0 to camaros, idk why you keep swinging on fords balls its not like ford swings on yours but anyways only if my tuner had enough time to do me a retune i would have dont my mods already

He didn't put the GT500 mufflers for back pressure. The stock ones have same back pressure. Saying you have none cs took mufflers off and counting his as a power mod is fucking stupid.


And funny every one talking how you got ass handed to you now he has spray also. And in every race he pulls you hard once he gets into it. On the dig. Once he stopped spinning he was rolling out on you.

And just cs spent money on something don't make it worth while. I spent money on a Hood that weighed 5lbs less then stock. Mainly cause I like it better. Not cause the weight. But I guess you could say it helped me be so much faster.

To be honest I thought he may have been sprayin to roll out like that. Those cars are closer than that.

I just texted him and he said the C&L intake he has gaved him about 10rwhp his guess he did say they help so stop saying they dont help o and the gt500 mufflers do help lije i said they flow better than stock and he has more back pressure. And i never said he was on spray i said my brother saw the videos and thought he was on dope, also i just asked fordv8302 how bad he beat a local g8 when the g8 obly had intake and tune and he said half of a car and he had the tune, flows, with the stock tube and clamp on intake o and no cats, now if thats the case those 410 gears woked it up big time and the C&L intake did too

I just texted him and he said the C&L intake he has gaved him about 10rwhp his guess he did say they help so stop saying they dont help o and the gt500 mufflers do help lije i said they flow better than stock and he has more back pressure. And i never said he was on spray i said my brother saw the videos and thought he was on dope, also i just asked fordv8302 how bad he beat a local g8 when the g8 obly had intake and tune and he said half of a car and he had the tune, flows, with the stock tube and clamp on intake o and no cats, now if thats the case those 410 gears woked it up big time and the C&L intake did too

Do some research..and what I said how they test cold air. There is actually like 4 current threads on modularfords of stock intake vs all the cold airs. And how they don't do shit when actually test at tracks. One Guy even did HP test and showed go gains with them when dyno with Hood closed. The cold airs are worthless. Start looking how many guys that bought them are now selling them and going to stock ones again. Waste of money plain and simple.

As far as G8 he should have beat it more. Coming from a G8 I know with those mods you posted it had wouldn't keep up with a 5.0 stock alone with one with any mods.

And no the GT500 mufflers do nothing for power s you think. That is just stupid. They have bigger tips and a don't flow enough to gain shit. Its all sound. Also if they flow more he would lose back pressure. Think about it. Only exhaust mod he did was his x pipe that did anything for power.

Not to give excuses but a few runs, especially the dig looks as tho he catches up and passes way to easy for what you have on him. Could be a kit, you check under the hood?

You're saying your tuner only had enough time to do a crappy tune.... Why would you take it to him then? LOL I paid my tuner to do a "real tune" not some shitty baseline tune that's barely enough to keep my car idling

Man y'all are gonna make hio silver commit suicide with this kind of stuff lmaof! j/k...

damn ole 5.0 is strong lol

Nice runs....

The cameraman needs to keep that friggin camera inside the car.

Man y'all are gonna make hio silver commit suicide with this kind of stuff lmaof! j/k...

For real!! Hell there has even been some 2v's winning some races.....world is gonna end for sure just like the mayan's predicted.:cheers::D

You're saying your tuner only had enough time to do a crappy tune.... Why would you take it to him then? LOL I paid my tuner to do a "real tune" not some shitty baseline tune that's barely enough to keep my car idling

Did i said it was a shitty tune..?? No all i said was that he slapped the computer and dint do WOT runs nor nothing. Nor AFR it aint my fault i am spanking you BAD with a tune only 4100# L99 camaro

Not to give excuses but a few runs, especially the dig looks as tho he catches up and passes way to easy for what you have on him. Could be a kit, you check under the hood?

I know he has a kit for sure but not sure if he had bottle or not. I mean i am not making excuses nor saying he is on dope but just by going by the videos and other ppl watching them ... They tell me on their own

You got fucking raped. You look ridiculous with your "straight pipe kills top end" and "Gt500 mufflers create backpressure which I don't have" shit. If that's your story and you're sticking to it, you aren't very wise for doing an exhaust mod to your car that hurts performance. Take your beating like a man...

Did you just say a 5.0 yanked a SS...

LOL

Nice races. Good looking 5.0 too.

Definitely. That 5.0 looked nice and clean.

I... and gt500 creates back pressure something i dont have.

LOLWUT

...I am not worry that he beat me it wont be the last time ill loose so i am ok with it and them first runs werent as bad as i tought they would be considering his mods....

I agree. You win and you lose.

...anyways only if my tuner had enough time to do me a retune i would have dont my mods already

Why take it if there was no time?

...and the gt500 mufflers do help lije i said they flow better than stock and he has more back pressure.

LOL Again with this? The whole point is reduction of backpressure while maintaining a steady and solid flow.

...And i never said he was on spray i said my brother saw the videos and thought he was on dope

LOL Maybe I'm missing a slang term or something... Dope? He was high when he was driving against you, and that made him faster somehow?

Don't be offended dude, but I have NO IDEA where you were going with all that.

Sorry man ....that was such a puppy kickin' i phoned the spca .

Sorry man ....that was such a puppy kickin' i phoned the spca .

Haha..

You got fucking raped. You look ridiculous with your "straight pipe kills top end" and "Gt500 mufflers create backpressure which I don't have" shit. If that's your story and you're sticking to it, you aren't very wise for doing an exhaust mod to your car that hurts performance. Take your beating like a man...

Whats your fucking point??? Did i make excuses no, i said we found out this straight pipe is killing my top end. Me and this guy with the 5.0 is cool we dont have no beef at all, and he told me i gained alot of bottom end from last time we raced. And i said yea but top end that straight pipe is killing me. I have experienced it with other cars not just this one. And i mean they are different mufflers. I am sure he has them there for a reason because they are better than stock!!!!

LOL



Definitely. That 5.0 looked nice and clean.



LOL Maybe I'm missing a slang term or something... Dope? He was high when he was driving against you, and that made him faster somehow?

Don't be offended dude, but I have NO IDEA where you were going with all that.

i said i didnt said he was on spray my brother was the one who mentioned it

LOL



Definitely. That 5.0 looked nice and clean.



LOL Maybe I'm missing a slang term or something... Dope? He was high when he was driving against you, and that made him faster somehow?

Don't be offended dude, but I have NO IDEA where you were going with all that.

Dope is slang for nitrous in some places

Dope is slang for nitrous in some places

Thank you. This rockies always try to be smart

im willing to bet there are quite a bit of NHRA class winning race cars that run nitrous, and have NEVER heard the slang word "dope"... and they arent exactly... rookies :eyes:

Who dont know whats dope?? They have to be real dumb or never been around racing that much to have NEVER heard that word. Its like ricers call it nozzzz and ppl always make fun of "nozzz" and they know what it is. Dope is just a word i have heard ever since i was younger i dont see how ppl on "tech" dont know was up

Did i said it was a shitty tune..?? No all i said was that he slapped the computer and dint do WOT runs nor nothing. Nor AFR it aint my fault i am spanking you BAD with a tune only 4100# L99 camaro

Most cars just get canned tune which idk what that meabs but last time i raced him some guy said the reason he runs so good its because it has a real tune. Btw my mods are tune and straight pipe (which everybody says it kills top end) i have a slap on tune. No WOT runs no nothing not even AFR ...... So whats your point??? .....

Took awhile to decipher this shit, but in other words you're saying you paid a dude to slap on a "bad" tune... I, personally would be pissed if I paid a dude to just hook up a computer and tune it without making any pulls. What tuner would even do that if they want a good reputation? Sounds like some :bs:

Have never heard nitrous called "Dope" in person.



I've only seen it called that on the internet and only once before today.

Took awhile to decipher this shit, but in other words you're saying you paid a dude to slap on a "bad" tune... I, personally would be pissed if I paid a dude to just hook up a computer and tune it without making any pulls. What tuner would even do that if they want a good reputation? Sounds like some :bs:

Are you still mad cause i raped you a made you a new whole???? Awwwww lmfao dude you just dont know what to come up with your full of shit and yes jake just slapped the computer on messed with it. Drove it around, and didnt do wideband nor WOT passes since we was inside royal purple raceway. O and better luck next time

just marking so i can watch vids and comment then.......

If he went from a Ford procal(shown gains of 8whp) tune to a Lethal Performance tune(shown 20whp) he is still getting a canned tune or slap on tune. ALthough one is a POS tune and the other is a REAL TUNE as you put it. As I also stated the 4.10 gears helped him. So your 3.27 gears vs his 4.10's. It is what is. And yes a CAI is just that. But test have shown they are a waste of money plain and simple. That the stock Air Box out performs them. You see gains cause every one is testing with hood open where the Open filters of teh aftermarket ones perform great. The stock boc intake is still closed so hood open or shut makes no difference. Running the aftermarket with hood close shows no gains at the track/street/dyno. It is pretty though. You both have no cats so no difference. And GT500 mufflers do nothing but add sound.

So needless to say all your excuses are kinda just that excusses for getting spanked bad. Add some gears. Betting it don't make up for teh way he pulled you. Geuss you need get the rest them mods on you say you have. :corn:

Man seriously, ur a hater. Give the OP some credit for posting the vids, man.

Op- good vids but camera needs to be inside the car, maybe even with the window up. Don't worry about the haters, you're letting it get to you by the looks of things-don't. You did ok, but not as good as I suspected you would do. Those cars run hard, so you're going to need to mod up. I'm actually surprised he pulled that well on you though. Didn't think it would be a gap like that. Oh well you had fun and that's what modding is for. Continue to enjoy your car and thanks for posting. :cheers:

Grab some headers and a "real tune" ;) and see what's up next time.

All the BS in this thread aside, I think it's hilarious that you can see the 5.0's passenger pointing the camera straight forward, and nowhere near the race. :rotflmao:

All the BS in this thread aside, I think it's hilarious that you can see the 5.0's passenger pointing the camera straight forward, and nowhere near the race. :rotflmao:

is it me or did the 5.0 get a lot faster after taking the passenger out lmao

is it me or did the 5.0 get a lot faster after taking the passenger out lmao

Like he was trying out the juice

Well you never know...on the street guys be double clutchin', spraying, sandbaggin', and most of all running NOS! :jest:

Op- good vids but camera needs to be inside the car, maybe even with the window up. Don't worry about the haters, you're letting it get to you by the looks of things-don't. You did ok, but not as good as I suspected you would do. Those cars run hard, so you're going to need to mod up. I'm actually surprised he pulled that well on you though. Didn't think it would be a gap like that. Oh well you had fun and that's what modding is for. Continue to enjoy your car and thanks for posting. :cheers:

Grab some headers and a "real tune" ;) and see what's up next time.

Thanks and you call that a gap lol first 25 and 50 wasnt really a gap. Well atleast for his mods, 40 was since not my roll and on the 30 idk what happened but he came by quick, 20 roll wasnt really either of big of a gap nor the dig

Thanks and you call that a gap lol first 25 and 50 wasnt really a gap. Well atleast for his mods, 40 was since not my roll and on the 30 idk what happened but he came by quick, 20 roll wasnt really either of big of a gap nor the dig

Lol, it was a gap man. A fuckin' gap!!! Lol. Not knockin' you there though btw. I agree the first couple looked good, but things get ugly after a few more seconds ... right?

I swear with the 5.0 falling behind and then storming back and passing; makes me want to think that he was spraying.

Well that's easy to say though. But we will never know, and I think that the coyotes are fully capable of that without spray. Ops car pulls real good from the get-go, but then seems to fall behind quickly thereafter. Mod for the purpose, not the idea imo. edit: you didn't need a semi-colon there sir, you're not connecting two thoughts there, it is one thought. A comma would suffice in that case lol ;). Just being a dick btw :cheers:

Do some research..and what I said how they test cold air. There is actually like 4 current threads on modularfords of stock intake vs all the cold airs. And how they don't do shit when actually test at tracks. One Guy even did HP test and showed go gains with them when dyno with Hood closed. The cold airs are worthless. Start looking how many guys that bought them are now selling them and going to stock ones again. Waste of money plain and simple.

As far as G8 he should have beat it more. Coming from a G8 I know with those mods you posted it had wouldn't keep up with a 5.0 stock alone with one with any mods.

And no the GT500 mufflers do nothing for power s you think. That is just stupid. They have bigger tips and a don't flow enough to gain shit. Its all sound. Also if they flow more he would lose back pressure. Think about it. Only exhaust mod he did was his x pipe that did anything for power.

That same 5.0 with the 315s back then vs the g8 and a silverado that traps 111mph
http://m.youtube.com/index?desktop_uri=%2F&gl=US#/watch?v=F_fBkB7wUWw

Are you seriously going to argue with ohio about this? LOL.

That same 5.0 with the 315s back then vs the g8 and a silverado that traps 111mph
http://m.youtube.com/index?desktop_uri=%2F&gl=US#/watch?v=F_fBkB7wUWw

YOu also said he didn't have same mods when he ran G8..so it don't matter. As Said I had a G8 that made 370whp with bolt ons and 489whp on the spray. On motor I lost to a few tuned x pipe manuals with 3.73's and then a couple tune geared auto's. On teh spray they was no where close to me. The one manual I raced looked liek your 40 roll with that stang. I would beat tuned/codl air/catback camaro's all the time. Auto's and manuals.

I swear with the 5.0 falling behind and then storming back and passing; makes me want to think that he was spraying.

U have point.

I swear with the 5.0 falling behind and then storming back and passing; makes me want to think that he was spraying.

This.

Thanks and you call that a gap lol first 25 and 50 wasnt really a gap. Well atleast for his mods, 40 was since not my roll and on the 30 idk what happened but he came by quick, 20 roll wasnt really either of big of a gap nor the dig

The tune settled in after the first races. Lmao

Just to take up for Jake in this instance, fueling was adjusted in your car. It was not tuned with a wideband but Power Enrichment was adjusted to lean the motor out.. Shifting was adjusted, shift time delay, torque management, timing, etc...

I swear with the 5.0 falling behind and then storming back and passing; makes me want to think that he was spraying.


It did seem that he caught up WAY too fast considering how hard he fell behind right off the rip every single race. On the "40roll him riding solo" he didn't fall behind at all like the other races and he walked away right from the get go.

Dude was definitely spraying.

It did seem that he caught up WAY too fast considering how hard he fell behind right off the rip every single race. On the "40roll him riding solo" he didn't fall behind at all like the other races and he walked away right from the get go.

Dude was definitely spraying.

Not definitely.

Not definitely.

Could have been spinning...On dig run you could tell he spun pretty bad...Mayeb not holding it in gear on roll races.

Just to take up for Jake in this instance, fueling was adjusted in your car. It was not tuned with a wideband but Power Enrichment was adjusted to lean the motor out.. Shifting was adjusted, shift time delay, torque management, timing, etc...

I know he did all those things i didnt mean that he did just like a programmer thing ... But i wanted the wideband since the get go and still want a wide band and WOT runs and for him to tune 4th and 5th cause according to him he only tuned 1, 2, 3 btw he basictlly did what he did with my homeboys truck he slapped the file out of another camaro

YOu also said he didn't have same mods when he ran G8..so it don't matter. As Said I had a G8 that made 370whp with bolt ons and 489whp on the spray. On motor I lost to a few tuned x pipe manuals with 3.73's and then a couple tune geared auto's. On teh spray they was no where close to me. The one manual I raced looked liek your 40 roll with that stang. I would beat tuned/codl air/catback camaro's all the time. Auto's and manuals.

The only difference was the C&L cai and 410s. I thought you said they didnt help. Now make up your mind

This.

Of course you would jump in on this party. Oh noes! A Chevy lost to a Ford! It's GOTTA be NAWWWWZZZZZ!

Lol, it was a gap man. A fuckin' gap!!! Lol. Not knockin' you there though btw. I agree the first couple looked good, but things get ugly after a few more seconds ... right?

He can't accept it...he's always justifying and making excuses. I guess there's a "denial" stage of losing to a 5.0? But...what...if...I did this and it hurt me...if he did this it'd be closer...you said it was a gap?! NO it wasn't...my tune wasn't settled...I wore my hat forward instead of backward that day. Fucking annoying.

I think he used spray on a few of those runs...theres no way he falls back that far and then come flying by you like that in such a short distance..he was running atleast 20mph faster than you on one of those runs.

Oh by the way straight pipes will not kill your top end..if that were true people would not use cutouts..you want less back pressure at higher rpm's.

The only difference was the C&L cai and 410s. I thought you said they didnt help. Now make up your mind
I said the cold air didnt help. The 4.10's will indeed so go back read what teh fuck I said. And you said he changed his tune as well.

He can't accept it...he's always justifying and making excuses. I guess there's a "denial" stage of losing to a 5.0? But...what...if...I did this and it hurt me...if he did this it'd be closer...you said it was a gap?! NO it wasn't...my tune wasn't settled...I wore my hat forward instead of backward that day. Fucking annoying.

HAHA..but so true.

I don't see what's hard to believe. The Camaro is probably down or right at the Mustang's level concerning horsepower, the Camaro is definitely the heavier of the two cars, and it lacks the 4.10 gear that the Mustang has. Not to mention the gain the Mustang has with a dyno tune versus a canned tune.

And for those of you who actually believe the Mustang is spraying... Have you never raced a car you got the jump on because of traction issues and then got pulled away from when the other car got traction? Well probably not seeing as how it's impossible for some of you guys to lose.

I don't see what's hard to believe. The Camaro is probably down or right at the Mustang's level concerning horsepower, the Camaro is definitely the heavier of the two cars, and it lacks the 4.10 gear that the Mustang has. Not to mention the gain the Mustang has with a dyno tune versus a canned tune.

And for those of you who actually believe the Mustang is spraying... Have you never raced a car you got the jump on because of traction issues and then got pulled away from when the other car got traction? Well probably not seeing as how it's impossible for some of you guys to lose.

Ok lets put your theory to the test..what do you think these two cars mph would be in the 1/4? I would say no more than 5mph..heres an example for you.Car A is doing 60mph and car B is doing 55mph,How much distance will car A put on car B in one hour? the answer is 26,400 feet in one hour and 440 feet in one minute..no way in hell the 5.0 was not spraying. he had that on him in about 16 seconds.

I said the cold air didnt help. The 4.10's will indeed so go back read what teh fuck I said. And you said he changed his tune as well.

Look little bitch i am tired of your fucking shit already, last time when i beat the other fucking 5.0 you were bitching about several little fucking things so shut your fucking mouth and stop being a nutswinger already. I am tired of your fucking excuses the most he pulled on most of the races was 3-4 lengths. I only have 350 bucks at the most on the l99 i am happy the way it fucking runs now dont make me bring that cobra with only 499rwhp to keep up with your 620rwhp POS again

Look little bitch i am tired of your fucking shit already, last time when i beat the other fucking 5.0 you were bitching about several little fucking things so shut your fucking mouth and stop being a nutswinger already. I am tired of your fucking excuses the most he pulled on most of the races was 3-4 lengths. I only have 350 bucks at the most on the l99 i am happy the way it fucking runs now dont make me bring that cobra with only 499rwhp to keep up with your 620rwhp POS again

Show me a cobra that stayed with me with 499whp..haha..

Second fuck stick I don't care how much you have in your car..and 3-5 cars...ya OK if you say so..we all seen the video's. He raped the hell out you. Spray no spray. Your excusses of BS straight pipe/cold airs you know nothing about. Its all facts he raped your car. And all facts to you was the bitch. But what expect driving a 5th Gen.

Of course you would jump in on this party. Oh noes! A Chevy lost to a Ford! It's GOTTA be NAWWWWZZZZZ!
For SURE!!!:D


I said it earlier in the thread too. Seems funny that the gear helped him from a roll more than a dig, and at higher speeds more than lower speeds. Those cars should be closer than that, unless op's tune is jacked.

For SURE!!!:D


I said it earlier in the thread too. Seems funny that the gear helped him from a roll more than a dig, and at higher speeds more than lower speeds. Those cars should be closer than that, unless op's tune is jacked.

Dig is all traction..you could see he spun hard. And mustang best rolls was 40 roll where he stayed even on hit then rolled out..all in the gearing..auto don't have best gearing for roll racing.

I know he did all those things i didnt mean that he did just like a programmer thing ... But i wanted the wideband since the get go and still want a wide band and WOT runs and for him to tune 4th and 5th cause according to him he only tuned 1, 2, 3 btw he basictlly did what he did with my homeboys truck he slapped the file out of another camaro

He did not Copy & Paste. I was right there... Jake does not do that, What u just said gives good tuner's a bad name. He also offered to retune with wideband For dirt cheap and u said u would get at him when funds were better.. and i qoute jake "I didn't copy & paste from another Camaro lol".. The only reason i commented on this is to clear up what u said, if u tuned u would see what a programmer actually does, which is $hit! They suck an wouldnt put one on my lawnmower.. :chug:

No spray, 5.0 was on street tires. What does an L99 camaro trap 110? Tune/gear 5.0 will go 115-117. That why he rolls past its not hard to believe. Im an lsx guy but damn between the Gm nutswingers on here and the Ford nutswingers on svtp its hard to even read these dumbass threads.

Straight pipes create less back pressure, right? So with less back pressure you'll have slightly less low end torque, but that should increase your top end. Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I am pretty sure that's how it goes. So OP doesn't really know what straight pipes did to his car.

Also, OP, are you running premium gas in your car? I'm pretty sure that L99 will lose GOBS of power if you don't put premium in it, it will retard the timing and you can lose up to 20WHP from what I have heard.

Both very nice cars, didn't know a 5.0 would pull a 6.2 Camaro so hard though, must be a hell of a tune or a lot of spray.

HMM i ran a 5.0 with TB headers cat back DRs tune CAI it was a auto car. my mods are headers tune CAI no cats street tires and pulled him by 2 cars and didnt look back either u have a shitty tune or something!!

HMM i ran a 5.0 with TB headers cat back DRs tune CAI it was a auto car. my mods are headers tune CAI no cats street tires and pulled him by 2 cars and didnt look back either u have a shitty tune or something!!

I only have a tune. I do not have headers nor intake. Thats probably whats helping you the most

The only difference was the C&L cai and 410s. I thought you said they didnt help. Now make up your mind

the kinds of cold air intakes they sell for cars now, i've never believed in. whereas the factory air box gets its air from outside of the engine compartment(usually in a fenderwell, or behind a headlight), these things bring the pick-up point inside the engine compartment. in the case of your camaro, i believe it is just behind the center of the grille?

the reasons so many with cold air intakes can/do show so much improvement(besides what was mentioned previously) are that they will dyno the vehicle on 87 octane fuel before the swap....then fill it with 93 afterwards. this is good for a decent hp increase in most modern performance cars. the other thing is the tune. what i've noticed, is that most that are selling these kits for the mustangs also sell them with a programmer, with a "canned" tune. i'd be pretty willing to bet that that tune is the main reason for the hp increase in those kits.

the 4.10's definitely helped the dood.

Ok guys I was not spraying (no dope lol). we had fun and that is all that matters my car shifts at 7400 rpm she loves the 4.11!She was tuned at strickley performance and the tune made all the differance in the world.

Ok guys I was not spraying (no dope lol). we had fun and that is all that matters my car shifts at 7400 rpm she loves the 4.11!She was tuned at strickley performance and the tune made all the differance in the world.

i don't really think it matters one way or the other if you were spraying. the op doesn't seem to care. he had fun running you. if the race had come out the other way, and it was him spraying, there'd be no speculation at all.


all that matters is that you guys had fun running.

Show me a cobra that stayed with me with 499whp..haha..

Second fuck stick I don't care how much you have in your car..and 3-5 cars...ya OK if you say so..we all seen the video's. He raped the hell out you. Spray no spray. Your excusses of BS straight pipe/cold airs you know nothing about. Its all facts he raped your car. And all facts to you was the bitch. But what expect driving a 5th Gen.

Did you go to tx2k12.?

i don't really think it matters one way or the other if you were spraying. the op doesn't seem to care. he had fun running you. If the race had come out the other way, and it was him spraying, there'd be no speculation at all.

all that matters is that you guys had fun running.

And what makes you say that fanboy? :suspiciou

Oh and the Mustang in the vid was spraying "conservatively". :lol:

No spray, 5.0 was on street tires. What does an L99 camaro trap 110? Tune/gear 5.0 will go 115-117. That why he rolls past its not hard to believe. Im an lsx guy but damn between the Gm nutswingers on here and the Ford nutswingers on svtp its hard to even read these dumbass threads.

117 with just a tune and nothing else? What are you smoking? I want some. :D

And what makes you say that fanboy? :suspiciou

'cause that's the way a lot of guys here are. i could name 1 or 2 in particular.........:engarde:

Definately looks like the Mustang was spraying, fell to far behind on the hit not to be. I would think with 4.11s he would start pulling instantly. Either way nice runs.

It is what it is.

It is what it is.

You right, nice ride, that thing runs hard man.

This thread :engarde:

117 with just a tune and nothing else? What are you smoking? I want some. :D

Very believable for tune and gears to trap 117. There is least 4 auto that trapped 117-119 with tune and tire I know on modularfords.

Very believable for tune and gears to trap 117. There is least 4 auto that trapped 117-119 with tune and tire I know on modularfords.

So did you to tx2k this year yes or no

Thx gregsss

I'm just gonna leave this here for ohio.....I thought it was interesting.

http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r136/HioSSilver/20120408_095105.jpg

So did you to tx2k this year yes or no

No I didn't...I don't have enough power to play with 1000whp cars..

I'm just gonna leave this here for ohio.....I thought it was interesting.

http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r136/HioSSilver/20120408_095105.jpg

Not bad. .I'm hoping I don't have to pull stall back out..Grrrr..it only trapped 126? Hard to see on phone. Glad to see the Whipple's are doing good on the camaro. Better then the Maggie's it seems.

'cause that's the way a lot of guys here are. i could name 1 or 2 in particular.........:engarde:

You're just thinking with a narrow mindset , that's all.

Very believable for tune and gears to trap 117. There is least 4 auto that trapped 117-119 with tune and tire I know on modularfords.

Don't run that BS by a fellow 5.0 owner. No way you're trapping 117 in an A6 with a tune as your only mod. The last time you made that claim it turned out the car had a couple more things done to it. We've already been here before. I won't entertain this non-sense.

I'm just gonna leave this here for ohio.....I thought it was interesting.

http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r136/HioSSilver/20120408_095105.jpg

That's damn impressive! 10's with a stock longblock. I'm not surprised at LS3's potential, but what's eye opening is it runs that at damn near 4,000 pounds. That's bitchin'. :D

I'm just gonna leave this here for ohio.....I thought it was interesting.

http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r136/HioSSilver/20120408_095105.jpg

That's a fast 5th gen for sure. Just think what it could do if it weighed less than my wife's Tahoe...

Don't run that BS by a fellow 5.0 owner. No way you're trapping 117 in an A6 with a tune as your only mod. The last time you made that claim it turned out the car had a couple more things done to it. We've already been here before. I won't entertain this non-sense.

Go to modularfords and look at the threads..they have did it..

I have a question.

I went just over 118mph(118.1), tune and tires only. OEM airbox. (a week later in 2000' worse air, I went high 116 [116.9])

WBT did the same.

Omcar went mid 117, same mods.

uncle phil went low to mid 117, tune and OEM tires, OEM airbox.

Where are all the 118-119MPH tune, CAI, and tire cars?

Do they not post their times, or do they not participate in any web-forums?

I see 117mph times from cars using an aftermarket CAI, but maybe I'm not reading the right boards.

PS,
Those times above were done with a kdanner tune, a Livernois tune, a Lund tune, and a Bama tune- so it's not like we're all in the same boat.

Not bad. .I'm hoping I don't have to pull stall back out..Grrrr..it only trapped 126? Hard to see on phone. Glad to see the Whipple's are doing good on the camaro. Better then the Maggie's it seems.

I thought you didn't like trapp......you like et remember, and this 5th gen has out et'ed ya. If I were a bettin man I would say there was probably a shift happening around the trapps.......and oh yea Maggies suck. I figured everyone would've known that by now. Well they're alright for trucks.

I thought you didn't like trapp......you like et remember, and this 5th gen has out et'ed ya. If I were a bettin man I would say there was probably a shift happening around the trapps.......and oh yea Maggies suck. I figured everyone would've known that by now. Well they're alright for trucks.

I mention trap cause thought all these ls cars was trap monsters. Not to menton twin screw blower no real need for converter. Several 5.0's did same as him.with less. He beat me by what? .05 for ET. He also has 3.70 gears to my 3.15 and LT headers. I have stock headers. Just a x pipe. I will be getting headers though. Buddy just ordered TT kit and I will pick up his LT's. He went 10.9 n/a so should fly with TT. He is a boss engine matted to a big stall auto.

This is a friend of mine, mods at this time were tune and intake only on stock pirellis. I cant find the other video. My other friend has a white one with tune/intake/drag radials that goes 11.70s@117. He had the car for like 3 days at the point of this video. He has since gone 10.90s@126 N/A stock shortblock with only weight reduction being driveshaft, sway bar, and wheels. Has a 6 point bar and full interior. Its his daily driver.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B0fCVSaHEZk&feature=channel&list=UL

Sounds like more excuses when you lose.

This is a friend of mine, mods at this time were tune and intake only on stock pirellis. I cant find the other video. My other friend has a white one with tune/intake/drag radials that goes 11.70s@117. He had the car for like 3 days at the point of this video. He has since gone 10.90s@126 N/A stock shortblock with only weight reduction being driveshaft, sway bar, and wheels. Has a 6 point bar and full interior. Its his daily driver.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B0fCVSaHEZk&feature=channel&list=UL

Good runnin car at one of if not the fastest tracks in the country.

You know why i am thinking why these 5.0s trap pretty good is because they chirp their tires 1-2 and 2-3 could that be it guys??? Thats what i been talking about with my homeboys about and is kinda true they chirp and the MPH bumps up. Do i have a point??

sounds like more excuses when you lose.

x2......

Good runnin car at one of if not the fastest tracks in the country.

He runs the same times at cecil as he does at Maryland International Raceway which is a WAY better prepped track. Just for reference.

You know why i am thinking why these 5.0s trap pretty good is because they chirp their tires 1-2 and 2-3 could that be it guys??? Thats what i been talking about with my homeboys about and is kinda true they chirp and the MPH bumps up. Do i have a point??

The car above is a manual..the auto's are not chirping them.

This is a friend of mine, mods at this time were tune and intake only on stock pirellis. I cant find the other video. My other friend has a white one with tune/intake/drag radials that goes 11.70s@117. He had the car for like 3 days at the point of this video. He has since gone 10.90s@126 N/A stock shortblock with only weight reduction being driveshaft, sway bar, and wheels. Has a 6 point bar and full interior. Its his daily driver.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B0fCVSaHEZk&feature=channel&list=UL

When he went 10.9 he had ported heads. He went 10.7 with adding boss intake after. I talked to him about his set up. I also know since he put boss cams in it.

x2......

When I do lose..just remember your car still can't beat me..


Hiho just pointing out facts. Like said hopefully don't have pull stall. We are changing my computer code to a 2011 code. The 12's codes have been known to act a little funny.

When he went 10.9 he had ported heads. He went 10.7 with adding boss intake after. I talked to him about his set up. I also know since he put boss cams in it.

He just put down 522rwhp at JPC's dyno day all motor. Thats DAMN impressive considering when i drove the car about a month ago it drove completely stock like my brothers does.

He runs the same times at cecil as he does at Maryland International Raceway which is a WAY better prepped track. Just for reference.
All 3 excellent tracks if you can utilize them.
He just put down 522rwhp at JPC's dyno day all motor. Thats DAMN impressive considering when i drove the car about a month ago it drove completely stock like my brothers does.

Wow....522rwhp and only ran a 10.7. I figured it would be a little quicker. No doubt the variable cam timing is helping drivability a bunch.

Sounds like more excuses when you lose.

excuses.....biggest one......if that camaro was lighter, it would've been faster. :engarde:

He just put down 522rwhp at JPC's dyno day all motor. Thats DAMN impressive considering when i drove the car about a month ago it drove completely stock like my brothers does.

Yeah but I thought you said the 10.9 run was with a stock longblock? And 522whp and only 10.70s with tires/weight reduction doesn't sound right.

He just put down 522rwhp at JPC's dyno day all motor. Thats DAMN impressive considering when i drove the car about a month ago it drove completely stock like my brothers does.

Has he ran it since then? I know he wasn't making that much when I talked to him last year and he ran the 10.7.

And think it was JPC that went 9's@130 with their 500whp 5.0 n/a. Had lots weight reduction, faceplanted tranny, and engine was stroked to up a few cubs.

When I do lose..just remember your car still can't beat me..


Hiho just pointing out facts. Like said hopefully don't have pull stall. We are changing my computer code to a 2011 code. The 12's codes have been known to act a little funny.

I can always call you out with my truck. Like i said before the camaro its my daily and thats it

I can always call you out with my truck. Like i said before the camaro its my daily and thats it

Go ahead not worried about it either.

WOW just watched the videos. That was hard to watch. He literally blew your doors off. Also I have officially read the most excuses/ignorance in one thread ever. You might want to get your car checked over and retuned. He should not have beat you that bad.:confused:

I can always call you out with my truck. Like i said before the camaro its my daily and thats it

I'm going to SAR this Friday. Its a 3 hour trip for me. About same for you. Bring whatever you want. Basically put up or shut up.

WOW just watched the videos. That was hard to watch. He literally blew your doors off. Also I have officially read the most excuses/ignorance in one thread ever. You might want to get your car checked over and retuned. He should not have beat you that bad.:confused:

If you don't know enuff to know he was spraying on a couple of those runs then...you don't know enuff.

well I watched video's form my phone and he pulled you pretty hard each time. On teh dig runs he had soem traction issues but walked by you and kept on walking.

Next considering his mods? He has 3 mods that really work. The gears/tune/and x pipe. The cold air he shouldn't have wasted his money on. And what is a real tune? All other tunes are fake? Yes some are not equal but they are still yunes.

what are your mods again? As I see it looks like his only advantage over your mods is the gears.

Dude your cool and all,but don't drink and type!

If you don't know enuff to know he was spraying on a couple of those runs then...you don't know enuff.

why exactly are you guys so concerned if this guy was spraying or not?

I don't think he was spraying :secret2:

I don't think he was spraying :secret2:

but why do they care? the OP sure as hell doesn't seem too concerned about it.

If you don't know enuff to know he was spraying on a couple of those runs then...you don't know enuff.

It's spelled enough:bang: U MAD HE LOST?

why exactly are you guys so concerned if this guy was spraying or not?



Because it rationalizes the loss if you can say that he was spraying.

Ok we can stop all this now! Everything will be set up for next week I will put the bottle back in and we will do it one more time just for ls1tech!

Ok we can stop all this now! Everything will be set up for next week I will put the bottle back in and we will do it one more time just for ls1tech!

gotta hav da nooossssssssss mannnnnnn...........

No I have proven I don't need NOS so now I'm gonna show y'all what she will do with it love ya!

No I have proven I don't need NOS so now I'm gonna show y'all what she will do with it love ya!

Do it..

No I have proven I don't need NOS so now I'm gonna show y'all what she will do with it love ya!





If you don't instantly bus length your buddy with the "dope" this could get interesting :corn:

That stang on the bottle would mop the tarmac with the Camaro 3 times as bad as it did N/A, if the OP didn't think the beating was that bad, i don't know what he would think after this new races, perhaps he'll say he raced a debadged 2013 GT 500 :)

gotta hav da nooossssssssss mannnnnnn...........

You are one immature Fuck you know that.



Ford302V8 What size shot are you going to run next race?

Wow! I would have thought the 5.0 would walk by you, not sprint by you. The new stangs are impressive for sure.

but why do they care? the OP sure as hell doesn't seem too concerned about it.

We care because people that lie about mods to make thier car look better are punks..I don't care if he used spray,just be a man and admit to it.

We care because people that lie about mods to make thier car look better are punks..I don't care if he used spray,just be a man and admit to it.

You would have hated me then back in my street racing days. I NEVER fully disclosed all of my mods. Didn't get the name Breadwinner for nothing.

You are one immature Fuck you know that.



Ford302V8 What size shot are you going to run next race?



oohh....did i hit a nerve there? :engarde::devil:

You would have hated me then back in my street racing days. I NEVER fully disclosed all of my mods. Didn't get the name Breadwinner for nothing.

Im just saying with all the shit that gets spewed on this site about how much faster a 5.0 is than a SS is rediculous....that car pulled like it had at least 100rwhp more than the SS.

You would have hated me then back in my street racing days. I NEVER fully disclosed all of my mods. Didn't get the name Breadwinner for nothing.


this.

and i'd say 90% still don't, even when they tell you that they do. or they play word games, hoping you're too stupid to catch it. :devil:

only 2 of those runs, did the camaro get a REALLY good jump on him. on neither one of those, did that car come back hard enough that it looked like he was spaying....unless he was running a really small shot. the other ones, weren't that much of a jump, and it looked like perhaps he was in too low of a gear when starting. either way, they looked fun.

only 2 of those runs, did the camaro get a REALLY good jump on him. on neither one of those, did that car come back hard enough that it looked like he was spaying....unless he was running a really small shot. the other ones, weren't that much of a jump, and it looked like perhaps he was in too low of a gear when starting. either way, they looked fun.

No way that 5.0 comes back that fast and puts atleast 2 seconds on that SS with the mods he has..in that short of a distance.

I can always call you out with my truck. Like i said before the camaro its my daily and thats it

I'm going to SAR this Friday. Its a 3 hour trip for me. About same for you. Bring whatever you want. Basically put up or shut up.

Crickets crickets..you scarred now? Don't tell me you scarred get that post camaro and truck raped.

Im just saying with all the shit that gets spewed on this site about how much faster a 5.0 is than a SS is rediculous....that car pulled like it had at least 100rwhp more than the SS.

Agreed. That was the point I was trying to make. People BS about mods all the time.

We know the car is equiped with spray..What i want to know is how big of a shot? Because if your running a tune for spray it will not run as strong without it..

Yeah but I thought you said the 10.9 run was with a stock longblock? And 522whp and only 10.70s with tires/weight reduction doesn't sound right.
Stock shortblock, he did some adjustments over the winter anmd dynoed it a couple weeks ago and made 522, he hasnt run this year that I know of but our track opens tomorrow they just re-paved the first 700 feet.
Has he ran it since then? I know he wasn't making that much when I talked to him last year and he ran the 10.7.

And think it was JPC that went 9's@130 with their 500whp 5.0 n/a. Had lots weight reduction, faceplanted tranny, and engine was stroked to up a few cubs.

He hasnt run it since it made 522. Here is the video from february at JPC.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qXUD99iyMI8

Crickets crickets..you scarred now? Don't tell me you scarred get that post camaro and truck raped.

I will call you out eventually. Just give it some time and get raped by a car that cant even trap over 125.??? Na i aint scared of that junk

I will call you out eventually. Just give it some time and get raped by a car that cant even trap over 125.??? Na i aint scared of that junk
You must be talking about a different 5.0. I have already trapped constant 129 before my last changes.

If god built a car, ohios car would still trap faster with less :D You didnt know that! LOL

If god built a car, ohios car would still trap faster with less :D You didnt know that! LOL

Ahh you still butt hurt I see also. Don't be its OK you picked the wrong car. Now my car ran what it ran over and over. But I'm glad I have haters. Means I am doing something right.

In vids you posted you were not very consistent.

In vids you posted you were not very consistent.

The trap speed swas always consistent. 128-129. the ET's s well being they all was 10.9-11.1. All depended on 60 ft. Best 60ft then was 1.84. Worse was 1.99. That was pre stall and drive shaft. Constant 128/129 traps. Last time out even threw in some 130-132 traps. But car wasn't tuned for stall. And acted kinda funny on a few passes and seen 125 trap. All ET's was still 10.9-11.1. But 60 ft didn't improve either as the track prepped sucked and I had to leave off idle on most passes.

I am hoping when we convert the computer code over to a 2011 code it fixes my 3rd gear issue. The 2012's seem to have some bugs in them still. Tranny don't want to respond to all commands given. If it doesn't fix then it means its a convertor issue or a tranny issue. Either way the whole thing will be sent to Circle d to have the stall checked and restalled to 4200 and the tranny built to hold more power with newer clutches from Exedy.

Butt hurt :rotflmao: Naaa I just think its funny your on your second car because you couldnt handle the M6! Had to puss out and get the auto, how much money did you wast with that clown show! LMAO

The 2011 and 12 Mustangs are capable of trapping 116, 117 with A GOOD TUNE CAI AUTO OR MANUEL + face it the new Camaro's are too heavy. Why are people still arguing about this? :confused:

I wish I was in amerikaaa to rape some five ohsss

I wish I was in amerikaaa to rape some five ohsss




You might want to get past the Fox Body's first.

You might want to get past the Fox Body's first.

That foxbody is an easy 9second car with traction.

I think I'm fine with the slowstangs on here.