LT1-LT4 Modifications - Alt re-location brackets....that keep AC/PS
slomarao
04-18-2012, 10:10 AM
http://www.speedinc.com/catagory.cfm?catagory=Engine
any other kits out there that keep ac/ps that aint 500 bucks....
been searching on this as well. im in chicago....in the summer you cant live without ac, my car is the DD at the moment and will be my only car til oct. really wana put the alt down for for acess to valve covers, etc. but need ac/ps. streetcar/DD setup
warriorcustoms
04-18-2012, 04:20 PM
LoL Chicago aint hot I lived in the suburbs for almost 2yrs Now Oklahoma & Texas = HOT The only other LT1 accy is the factory vette stuff that puts everything on the right side & those are 1500 new Or 500ish used Good luck
Dave357LT1
04-18-2012, 04:30 PM
Not to thread jack or nothing but i need one for no ac and no p.s.
slomarao
04-18-2012, 04:51 PM
Not to thread jack or nothing but i need one for no ac and no p.s.
click the link...the one you want is reasonable.
robsquikz28
04-18-2012, 04:59 PM
Madman makes a alternator relocation bracket. No a,c or p,s
Dave357LT1
04-18-2012, 05:17 PM
click the link...the one you want is reasonable.
Link is dead for me and ill check out madman. Was told jakez28 but his site seems to be gone.
DisasterFormula
04-18-2012, 05:38 PM
Bahahahahahaha! Chicago? Hot? Man, you better not go to Florida from May-October or you're gonna die lol.
lethal bird
04-18-2012, 08:08 PM
Lol try coming down south. You haven't seen hot yet.
slomarao
04-19-2012, 09:24 AM
Lol try coming down south. You haven't seen hot yet.
idk...chicago in july is 90 degree....90% humidity..
ive been to FLA in the summer...its just as humid up here.
slomarao
04-19-2012, 09:25 AM
enough weather talk...anyone know of a bracket that i dont need sell my house for??
1961ba427
04-19-2012, 10:20 AM
I've been looking for awhile too. I have one of the "piggyback" underdrive crank pullies, so I'm going to try to mount my alt low on the driver's side and run it off a seperate short belt...then putting an idler pulley on my stock accesory bracket.
CHELOZ28
04-19-2012, 10:31 AM
I use to have a link on my old laptopp, someone haa a write up on how to do this with the stock ACC bracket. I'll post it if I find it again.
*****
Found it.....http://www.lt1engines.com/tech/lt1-alternator-relocation/
Ocala93TA
04-19-2012, 11:03 AM
I use to have a link on my old laptopp, someone haa a write up on how to do this with the stock ACC bracket. I'll post it if I find it again.
*****
Found it.....http://www.lt1engines.com/tech/lt1-alternator-relocation/
Where is the ac ? thats what the op wanted . I always wondered why you cant move the alternator to the air pump side ? theres room there without it , maybe i will see what i can come up with
kgkern01
04-19-2012, 11:08 AM
None of these links seem to answer the OP's original question, how to KEEP A/C and PS while relocating the alternator...
That said, I do remember a few years ago on CamaroZ28.com someone had made a bracket that mounts the alternator on the driver's side next to the crank pulley and used a pulley in the stock alt location, like a 1LE pulley, thus keeping both AC and PS, but it's not made anymore. Maybe someone else can do this?
slomarao
04-19-2012, 11:35 AM
I use to have a link on my old laptopp, someone haa a write up on how to do this with the stock ACC bracket. I'll post it if I find it again.
*****
Found it.....http://www.lt1engines.com/tech/lt1-alternator-relocation/
deletes AC
slomarao
04-19-2012, 11:36 AM
None of these links seem to answer the OP's original question, how to KEEP A/C and PS while relocating the alternator...
That said, I do remember a few years ago on CamaroZ28.com someone had made a bracket that mounts the alternator on the driver's side next to the crank pulley and used a pulley in the stock alt location, like a 1LE pulley, thus keeping both AC and PS, but it's not made anymore. Maybe someone else can do this?
yea...they are all no ac setups. i need mine, i want a kit that puts it where the AIR pump was.
Ocala93TA
04-19-2012, 11:37 AM
I found the guy on camaroz28 his name is michiganspeed he did make his own set up but the post was back in 2008 and the pics dont show anymore so i pmd him to see if he can be any help .
slomarao
04-19-2012, 11:44 AM
thanks man
Ocala93TA
04-19-2012, 11:48 AM
Found a company !!!
http://web.mac.com/lewkck/mymachinehead.com/LT-1_Alt._P_S_and_A_C_Bracket.html
Ocala93TA
04-19-2012, 12:31 PM
here is another
http://www.marchperf.com/styletrack_lt1.html
VinR1
04-19-2012, 01:53 PM
idk...chicago in july is 90 degree....90% humidity..
ive been to FLA in the summer...its just as humid up here.
in TX, thats a 'cool day'... let your kids outside with no sunscreen and sheot
Prorac1
04-19-2012, 02:09 PM
There was a place in Michigan locally here that was making those relocation brackets that keep A/C and Power steering. I dont know if they still make them or not. The problem that I had with them is that they put a idler pulley (kind of a nescessary evil in this set up) where the alternator used to be. SO instead of having a big ugly alternator in front of the valve cover, (that at least serves a purpose), you have a big ugly idler pulley that just looks out of place. So what I did was powder coat my stock valve covers gloss black, and sanded down my alternator case and polished it with aluminum polish and a scotch brite to give it a brushed/billet kinda look. Turned out understated and tasteful IMHO. Eric L
slomarao
04-19-2012, 02:31 PM
There was a place in Michigan locally here that was making those relocation brackets that keep A/C and Power steering. I dont know if they still make them or not. The problem that I had with them is that they put a idler pulley (kind of a nescessary evil in this set up) where the alternator used to be. SO instead of having a big ugly alternator in front of the valve cover, (that at least serves a purpose), you have a big ugly idler pulley that just looks out of place. So what I did was powder coat my stock valve covers gloss black, and sanded down my alternator case and polished it with aluminum polish and a scotch brite to give it a brushed/billet kinda look. Turned out understated and tasteful IMHO. Eric L
yea, Michigan Speed. cant find too much on them...
slomarao
04-19-2012, 02:32 PM
Found a company !!!
http://web.mac.com/lewkck/mymachinehead.com/LT-1_Alt._P_S_and_A_C_Bracket.html
id say this is the best and cheapest kit id buy right now....
thanks man, you didnt have to do all this.
Ocala93TA
04-19-2012, 06:59 PM
id say this is the best and cheapest kit id buy right now....
thanks man, you didnt have to do all this.
No problem iam thinking of doing the same thing :chug:
T/A KID
04-19-2012, 07:32 PM
LOL machine head is using a pic of my engine to show there product
95mysticta
04-19-2012, 08:04 PM
Modify your stock bracket and move the alt down low. Tones of writeups all over the net on how to with pics. I did it to mine and works and looks great. If i one day find a smokin deal on a Speed Inc bracket then ill buy one then but not at the 400 price tag.
1961ba427
04-19-2012, 08:38 PM
So many people are replying without noticing the fact the OP wants to relocate his ALT while KEEPING his PS & AC.
warriorcustoms
04-19-2012, 10:18 PM
If its for valve cover clearance grind the damn alternator & get the proform centerbolts & be done with it Ive researched the piss out of it Mine are ordered from jegs Try 90+ days of 100+ degrees & 110% humidity Texas & Oklahoma got the windy city beat on HOT LoL Im keepin my a/c LoL My 396 should make enough power with all my upgrades & 2 kits of Nitrous Dont be scared to do a little grinding Hell you can gut the stockers & run 1.6 roller rocker Use the Search Feature Or Google Another option is the ugly Canton valve covers Why spend extra money relocating shit if you dont have too
slomarao
04-20-2012, 08:13 AM
If its for valve cover clearance grind the damn alternator & get the proform centerbolts & be done with it Ive researched the piss out of it Mine are ordered from jegs Try 90+ days of 100+ degrees & 110% humidity Texas & Oklahoma got the windy city beat on HOT LoL Im keepin my a/c LoL My 396 should make enough power with all my upgrades & 2 kits of Nitrous Dont be scared to do a little grinding Hell you can gut the stockers & run 1.6 roller rocker Use the Search Feature Or Google Another option is the ugly Canton valve covers Why spend extra money relocating shit if you dont have too
well its for valve cover clearance & cleaning up the bay for looks.
i hate having all the accessories lower and than the dam alt sticking up so high.....just gets in the way of shit.
warriorcustoms
04-20-2012, 08:32 AM
I know its kinda like a sore thumb but 500 & up could be well spent in other places Like a nitrous kit , Headers , porting your intake , Dyno tune , etc... Just my 2 cents I found a vette set up a few months back for 250 on craigslist Its a have to have on the S10 swap Im doin after the T/A build Its do the vette accy or cut & weld the frame on that LoL But it puts the a/c up top & then youve got a/c lines everywhere Kinda screwed either way on the "clean" engine bay You can hide & tuck everything to make it a lot cleaner Hell Im gonna delete the abs & all emissions crap to help the clean up Then my MSD stuff will have a nice spot
slomarao
04-20-2012, 09:56 AM
I know its kinda like a sore thumb but 500 & up could be well spent in other places Like a nitrous kit , Headers , porting your intake , Dyno tune , etc... Just my 2 cents I found a vette set up a few months back for 250 on craigslist Its a have to have on the S10 swap Im doin after the T/A build Its do the vette accy or cut & weld the frame on that LoL But it puts the a/c up top & then youve got a/c lines everywhere Kinda screwed either way on the "clean" engine bay You can hide & tuck everything to make it a lot cleaner Hell Im gonna delete the abs & all emissions crap to help the clean up Then my MSD stuff will have a nice spot
you have a write up or anything on grinding the alt/proform center bolts or pics....just wana see it when its all said & done.
slomarao
04-20-2012, 10:00 AM
would these fit
http://www.jegs.com/i/Proform/778/141-107/10002/-1
??
warriorcustoms
04-20-2012, 11:17 AM
Yeah but they need gutted because theyre stock height I will see if I can find the write up In this section hit the search & type in proform valve covers on an lt1 & a bunch pull up I just ordered the polished ones from Jegs I think its 141-130 Had to get those because the polished without logos were on back order You just have to test fit & grind the back of the housing Hell if they wouldnt fit after grinding then why would I have ordered em lol
96TransAmboosted
04-20-2012, 12:42 PM
Your that lazy to remove 3 bolts to get to your valve cover? Leave the rear bracket off and theres even less to remove. The alt is easy to remove to get the valve cover off.
96TransAmboosted
04-20-2012, 12:44 PM
Those covers will fit with some minor grinding to the alt
1961ba427
04-20-2012, 01:03 PM
It's not the work of pulling the alternator that I mind. I just think LT1's look so much better without it sitting up there. Once you delete emissions, relocate fuel lines, harness, etc., things start to look really nice underhood. I'd like that relocated alternator look, but I am not willing to give up my AC. I'm planning on fabbing up a mount, but there are other priorities ahead of it.
slomarao
04-20-2012, 01:11 PM
It's not the work of pulling the alternator that I mind. I just think LT1's look so much better without it sitting up there. Once you delete emissions, relocate fuel lines, harness, etc., things start to look really nice underhood. I'd like that relocated alternator look, but I am not willing to give up my AC. I'm planning on fabbing up a mount, but there are other priorities ahead of it.
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not that pulling the alt is such a big deal...but once its moved, AIR/EGR gone, etc the bay cleans up pretty nice. I hate where it is...and its only a pain in the ass when you wana pull the covers.
DS side is a breeze cuz and thats how i want the PS side to be too.
Yeah for 100 bux or so I be happy with those new chrome covers but id really like the thing down low and out of sight.
warriorcustoms
04-20-2012, 07:07 PM
My 141-130s came in today :) & I agree with the cleaner engine bay aspect!!! I plan on doin as much as i can to clean it up & reroute shit Id rather have a procharger or turbo in the space that used to have the air pump LoL If I could only weld
Ocala93TA
04-20-2012, 07:47 PM
you have a write up or anything on grinding the alt/proform center bolts or pics....just wana see it when its all said & done.
Mine is ground down on the alternator its not hard but i also like the idea of moving it also to clean it up .
97Z28SS
04-20-2012, 07:58 PM
Here are some pics of the "My Machinehead.com" setup that Speedinc sells installed on my new engine, enjoy.
http://i1110.photobucket.com/albums/h460/z24turbo1/383LT1Engine021.jpg
http://i1110.photobucket.com/albums/h460/z24turbo1/383LT1Engine021.jpg
http://i1110.photobucket.com/albums/h460/z24turbo1/383LT1Engine020.jpg
flyinZ
04-21-2012, 07:55 AM
^^^Since your alt is on the drivers' side, where did you put your coil/module at?
96TransAmboosted
04-21-2012, 09:26 AM
Theres plenty of room for the coil on the driver side head where it goes.
lethal bird
04-21-2012, 10:04 AM
^^^Since your alt is on the drivers' side, where did you put your coil/module at?
He's 24x so no coil or module for him but even if he did there's still plenty of room.
97Z28SS
04-21-2012, 11:38 AM
^^^^^^ Both posters above are correct I have the 24x setup which uses 8 LS2 coils and LSx pcm etc, however they r both correct that you could mount the coil/icm in the stock location because the alt is drivers side low.
69gto96z
04-21-2012, 01:15 PM
Chicago? :rotflmao: Try no AC in Texas
flyinZ
04-21-2012, 01:15 PM
Ok, that'll work, just checkin'.
slomarao
04-23-2012, 09:03 AM
Here are some pics of the "My Machinehead.com" setup that Speedinc sells installed on my new engine, enjoy.
http://i1110.photobucket.com/albums/h460/z24turbo1/383LT1Engine021.jpg
http://i1110.photobucket.com/albums/h460/z24turbo1/383LT1Engine021.jpg
http://i1110.photobucket.com/albums/h460/z24turbo1/383LT1Engine020.jpg
if this kit was 200-275 id be all over it...but i cant justify spending 500 bux