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Old 12-13-2005, 06:14 PM
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Default turbo kit do i want the ground zero log style

my question is im want to spend 6k , i dont want to be limited w performance but ground clearance is my biggest worry! any info for what else is out there would be great
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I would do a reverse truck mani rig...

Logs like to crack unless they are cast...
Old 12-13-2005, 06:20 PM
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guy said 1/8" thick wont crack! and around 5400 for injectors pump and base tune and ya i/c too
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IMHO not worth the price....

You could buy a welder, truck manis and the materials and save a ton.
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im a bolt kinda guy dont give me a welder tried to make headers spent 400 on a kit f*cking gave up 3 beers later! and said know more welding and i dont want to ask friends for help this is a stelth project
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i made good power with that style kit. and i experienced no cracks. and mine was a bit thinner than 1/8th. if thats what you want then go for it.
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thanks thats what i wanted to hear! another question is t70 or t78 this is a total street car and i hear the hp tuner is a good way to tune it?
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t78? or t76? go with the t76 good room to grow,
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what did ya make for power if ya dont mind?
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539rwhp 600rwtq
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did you tune it your self, that what im most worried about this is first f/inj car and im sick of carbs and not gettind the power! my last car was my first car and i sold me her she had a pump gas 406 507hp 506tq w a broken tranny it made 373 rwhp. the best it ran was 12.3@112 so sold it! camaro turbo project and make some real power oh sold it to my buddy and the motor popped timing was'nt right running no2 and blow a pistion there went the 3rd 400 in that car
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I would get a solid fuel system, BS3 and a wideband o2...

If you have trouble with tuning.. Once setup right it almost self tunes..
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my friend told me about the wide band but whats the bs3??? If i have any problems i hope ya want to help sents your so close and all!!!
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Originally Posted by trever phillips
my friend told me about the wide band but whats the bs3??? If i have any problems i hope ya want to help sents your so close and all!!!
How to tune and modify engine management systems
http://shopping.msn.com/specs/shp/?itemId=1204879

I know borders in richfield has it.. Other places might if you want to buy in person or thumb thru before you order from amazon or something..

This book is awesome.. GET IT.

It will really help you out alot.
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The kit we offer is a very streetable, daily driver kit. You can keep AC, PS, everything. We made over 500rwhp on only 7psi with a PT70 (the smallest turbo we offer). It made quick spool and made power all the way up top. Feel free to call us anytime to discuss your setup
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Originally Posted by GroundZero
The kit we offer is a very streetable, daily driver kit. You can keep AC, PS, everything. We made over 500rwhp on only 7psi with a PT70 (the smallest turbo we offer). It made quick spool and made power all the way up top. Feel free to call us anytime to discuss your setup
I hope you take this as a constructive suggestion but consider designing a different manifold...

Every car model has its unique tight spots and own pockets to sneek components in...

One example... Equal length and external gate.. For those who dont know look at the cavity btw a 4g63 and the ac condensor...



Evo.. = length and twinscroll in a itty bitty package..





Like maybe do a 4-1 on each side and a front crossover pipe.

Use double slip collectors on both sides... This would allow for a single main manifold design with just sending different collectors to match a kit... T4 vs thumper.. Single vs dual.. A customer could go from a T4 to a thumper w/o changing manifolds.. Just the colector with the Y and T4 flange welded to it...

I just think there is enough room.. we both know equal length is'nt as important as velocity, clearance or durability... So even a unequal but not radically 4-1 on each side would be the best kit around..
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V8_DSM_V8again, though that all sounds nice room is limited and even making the log manifold was tight. There just isn't any room for fancy looking manifolds without sacrificing either AC, or PS. Log manifolds are not the most efficient but they work, and we have nice dyno numbers to back it up as well We're very aware of how to make nice looking manifolds



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Originally Posted by GroundZero
V8_DSM_V8again, though that all sounds nice room is limited and even making the log manifold was tight. There just isn't any room for fancy looking manifolds without sacrificing either AC, or PS. We're very aware of how to make nice looking manifolds
Those are ok...

Still better than SS autochrome...

I think the second ones primaries are bit long sacrificing velocity... DN's evo manifold is the one that makes the most sense from a 100% scientific standpoint..

Its not so much about fancy looking..

Get any of those DN things hot and they are'nt so shiny anymore.

I insulate all my turbo exhausts..

I have just seen alot of things on tubular exhausts I dont like that some systems engineer out... Even conventional non turbo headers I have seen crack primary welds at the head flange.. I have'nt seen it on headers with a slip on collector...

Its a tightly packaged car... I just think sooner or later someone is going to come up with something trick that fits..
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maybe but how much will it cost and how much work will it take to get to work.

that kit works ok, but i just wouldnt bring it abouve the 600rwhp mark
if its like the tti street kit (which it is) youll loose some ground clearance with the cross over not a whole lot but some
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Originally Posted by smokinHawk
maybe but how much will it cost and how much work will it take to get to work.

that kit works ok, but i just wouldnt bring it abouve the 600rwhp mark
if its like the tti street kit (which it is) youll loose some ground clearance with the cross over not a whole lot but some
If nobody ever tried to improve on things nobody here would have turbos at all...

sometimes gives way to .... If you look at a problem long enough creatively.


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