Stage 8 Locking Header Bolts
02-03-2006, 05:07 PM
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Stage 8 Locking Header Bolts Has anyone used the stage 8 locking header bolts? I know they don't work well on some cars, and end up spinning freely. I'm putting on some pacesetter LT's and don't want to keep tightening my header bolts. How well do they work with pacesetters? What about the Broselin(sp) split locks?
02-03-2006, 05:43 PM
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LOL.... I had those on my WS6. Funny part was, I never bothered to put the locks on, just used the bolts. Even without the locks, they never came loose in the 3 years I had them on the car. I was using Bassani headers.
02-03-2006, 07:34 PM
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I do. I am very lucky I did as well cause I cross threaded one in the new heads that I got. The bolts never broke off as I backed it out; I cranked on that basterd really hard to get it out as well...never broke off 
But other than my stupidity, I like them.
The clips are a major pain in the *** to get off as well, so be prepared to bend a few as you pry them off. I am just using the bolts as well now...
But other than my stupidity, I like them.
The clips are a major pain in the *** to get off as well, so be prepared to bend a few as you pry them off. I am just using the bolts as well now...
02-03-2006, 09:12 PM
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I do. I am very lucky I did as well cause I cross threaded one in the new heads that I got. The bolts never broke off as I backed it out; I cranked on that basterd really hard to get it out as well...never broke off
But other than my stupidity, I like them.
The clips are a major pain in the *** to get off as well, so be prepared to bend a few as you pry them off. I am just using the bolts as well now...
But other than my stupidity, I like them.
The clips are a major pain in the *** to get off as well, so be prepared to bend a few as you pry them off. I am just using the bolts as well now...
You didn't mention that cross threading tid bit in your paper towel thread lol! Talk about a bad luck project. I hope it runs this time. As far as the stage 8's, that's what I was afraid of. So they do a good job of locking, but suck to get off? How much of a pain to get off are we talking about? If I buy them, I want to use the clips also. If not I'd like to maybe use the Broselins(sp). I just don't want to deal with header leaks and re-tightening. Anyone else use locking header bolts????
02-03-2006, 09:18 PM
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Yeah I had to retap two of the last drivers side rocker arm bolt holes, one of the power steering pump holes and that header hole...it sucked basically.
Mine only got crossthreaded cause the tap was bad on it, once I pulled the bolt out I retapped it and it went in fine.
It was a pain in the *** for me to get off cause of those c clips...I bend up most of them when taking them off cause I using a flathead to pry them off...it was the only way in my opinion.
I would stick with the stockers if I had to do it again...just be careful not to break any of them off in the head.
Mine only got crossthreaded cause the tap was bad on it, once I pulled the bolt out I retapped it and it went in fine.
It was a pain in the *** for me to get off cause of those c clips...I bend up most of them when taking them off cause I using a flathead to pry them off...it was the only way in my opinion.
I would stick with the stockers if I had to do it again...just be careful not to break any of them off in the head.
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02-03-2006, 09:22 PM
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I used them when I installed my mac headers last month. I got 6 locks on, but had trouble with the last 2, so I just left them off. It's only been a month, but so far so good.
02-03-2006, 11:16 PM
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Originally Posted by antz01ta
i love mine, what i do is install them, heat cycle the gaskets a couple times then retorque and install locks, never had a leak.
02-04-2006, 04:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Lithium
Yeah I had to retap two of the last drivers side rocker arm bolt holes, one of the power steering pump holes and that header hole...it sucked basically.
Mine only got crossthreaded cause the tap was bad on it, once I pulled the bolt out I retapped it and it went in fine.
It was a pain in the *** for me to get off cause of those c clips...I bend up most of them when taking them off cause I using a flathead to pry them off...it was the only way in my opinion.
I would stick with the stockers if I had to do it again...just be careful not to break any of them off in the head.
Mine only got crossthreaded cause the tap was bad on it, once I pulled the bolt out I retapped it and it went in fine.
It was a pain in the *** for me to get off cause of those c clips...I bend up most of them when taking them off cause I using a flathead to pry them off...it was the only way in my opinion.
I would stick with the stockers if I had to do it again...just be careful not to break any of them off in the head.
can you pry them off without too much problem? I'm not worried about screwing them up. Worst case scenario, I'll just buy more. I wonder why the Broselin ones aren't more popular....
02-04-2006, 05:01 PM
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Yeah those clips are a pain in the ***. I tried grabbing them with pliers but that didnt work...so I took a flat head to them instead.
The clips are easy to come by, I believe most places will have them. They are 40 bucks though for the bolts...I am happy with mine.
If you dont want to have to deal with tightening the bolts often the get the stage 8's. Cause once they are on, they are not going to get loose.
The clips are easy to come by, I believe most places will have them. They are 40 bucks though for the bolts...I am happy with mine.
If you dont want to have to deal with tightening the bolts often the get the stage 8's. Cause once they are on, they are not going to get loose.
02-04-2006, 05:39 PM
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i have Breslin split-lock header bolts. They were kind of a pain in the *** to get locked into place but have not budged since then, I would reccomend them they cost about $50 bucks.
02-04-2006, 05:49 PM
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i have Breslin split-lock header bolts. They were kind of a pain in the *** to get locked into place but have not budged since then, I would reccomend them they cost about $50 bucks.
Where did you buy them at? I thought they were more like $100. How hard are they to take off? Hopefully easier than the stage 8's!
02-04-2006, 05:55 PM
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I bought a set of Stage 8 and the blister-pack was one
bolt short (very handy to discover, at the time). So we
reused the stockers.
Drilling for safety wire is another way to go, costs nothing
but time and maybe a little ugly (but the kind of ugly that
tells people you know what you're doing).
bolt short (very handy to discover, at the time). So we
reused the stockers.
Drilling for safety wire is another way to go, costs nothing
but time and maybe a little ugly (but the kind of ugly that
tells people you know what you're doing).
02-05-2006, 10:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Redneck Z
Where did you buy them at? I thought they were more like $100. How hard are they to take off? Hopefully easier than the stage 8's!
02-05-2006, 12:53 PM
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I have the Stage 8's as well on my QTP's and I've had them on for about 3 weeks. Never bothered to put the locking mechanism on since when I went to retorque them, they were all still just as tight as before....