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Old 03-09-2006, 04:44 AM
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Like the title says I went to a take off my crank pulley and the bolt is completly stuck and won't come off. I have already broken 2 wrenches and a breaker bar trying to get if off. Any suggestion on how to get it off?????
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heat it up then try
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How could you brake a wrench? Let alone get one on the head of the bolt?
Go with a High quality 1/2 braker bar and good 6 point socket and cheater bar and you should be able to bust it loose.
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I bent two 1/2" breaker bars on mine. I didn't want to waste any more so I went to sears and got the biggest one they had, had to get the socket for it too because the largest sockets I have are 1/2". I believe the one I got is 3/4 and the bar must be an 1" thick. Still couldn't get it so I put a piece of rigid pipe over it like a 3' extenssion to get more torque and just yanked it hard and quick. It finally broke it loose. I think if I tried to go slow it might have even bent the new breaker bar too. They can be stuck on there good. Good luck.
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How could you brake a wrench? Let alone get one on the head of the bolt?
Go with a High quality 1/2 braker bar and good 6 point socket and cheater bar and you should be able to bust it loose.
The bolt is a 12 point ARP bolt. I had a peice of pipe on the wrench and pulled so hard it broke the head of the wrench. Its a husky so I can get anew one so I'm not worry about.
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Originally Posted by rufretic
I bent two 1/2" breaker bars on mine. I didn't want to waste any more so I went to sears and got the biggest one they had, had to get the socket for it too because the largest sockets I have are 1/2". I believe the one I got is 3/4 and the bar must be an 1" thick. Still couldn't get it so I put a piece of rigid pipe over it like a 3' extenssion to get more torque and just yanked it hard and quick. It finally broke it loose. I think if I tried to go slow it might have even bent the new breaker bar too. They can be stuck on there good. Good luck.
Sounds good headed to get one now. I feel like I'm gonna tear something up push and pulling so hard. I could litterly sit there and watch the 1/2inch wrench bend till it broke
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Get a little propane torch and heat the bolt up for 2-3 minutes. It'll come right off.
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I used a 1/2 breaker bar & a piece of pipe over it. One guy pushing the bar another pulling. The ARP is a 27mm 12 point, makes it easier to strip. The stocker is a 24mm.
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The F*cking bolt broke off in damn crank. It broke on the threads about 2 1/2 inches into the crank. Anyone got anymore ideas. I'm deperate.
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dude were in the same problem.. i was finisheing installing the pulley only needed about 1cm to go and the bolt took a ****.. im still trying to figure out what to do.. ithink IM going to use a eazy out and if not drill the ****** holeout starting with a small bit and then slowly increaseing the size.. hopefully it helps.. good luck.
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we had to heat mine up to get it out
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ouch that sucks.. wouldnt want to snap that bolt for sure..
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Sorry to hear that. Was the bolt torqued down with a impact gun?
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This is a problem im beginning to have as well and would love as much help as i could get, im getting damn near the point to where mines gonna be stripped out which definitey wont be good, im thinking im gonna heat the hell out of it for about 5 minutes or so and then see what i can do,...hopefully I wont strip it out...if not and it still wont come out i'll just pray to God I can borrow Gods 1/2'' impact gun to get it out i guess. I've used every method i could think of.
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well if anyone is so nice to answer this predicament i've gotten myself in i'd love to hear from ya immediately if ya would email me @ STUDFOOTBALLER@AOL.COM, Thanks!
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Heating the bolt will actuall make it expand, and tighten in the crank. What you would "want " to do is heat the crank up so it expands, and relieves the pressure on the bolt.

For example have you ever heard of the pulley in the oven trick. You put your underdrive pulley in the oven @ 210 or so for an hour, it expands the pulley and you can usually slip it right on the crank (didn't quite work for me). SAME CONCEPT.

If you heat that bolt up too much your going to have problems!!!
Just my thoughts!
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wow, I used a jack handle with the car in 4th and mine came right off, that sucks, but if you take it to a machine shop, get them to key it as well, for later mods.
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dohhh! just ordered my powerbond ud pulley. guys with trouble gettin bolts out/breaking, how many miles on your cars??
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Originally Posted by pewter 01 SS
dude were in the same problem.. i was finisheing installing the pulley only needed about 1cm to go and the bolt took a ****.. im still trying to figure out what to do.. ithink IM going to use a eazy out and if not drill the ****** holeout starting with a small bit and then slowly increaseing the size.. hopefully it helps.. good luck.
Worked on a buddies 99 GT....

His bolt broke off on the way out. Sucked the pulley on with a torque wrench, on the stock bolt, started backing it out and the torque wrench popped, like it was getting tighter. Then it just snapped off. We drilled and drilled and broke drill bits and easy outs. Finally (after i left), they started drilling bigger and bigger untill the threads of the bolt started to come apart.

If you've got a buddy at a machine shop, they might be able to help. Worst comes to worse, you take the motor out and bring that bitch somewhere.
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I doubt an ARP bolt is going to break. Locktite must have been used when it was installed. GM uses locktite on the flatwasher part of the bolt head. Once the initial torque is overcome it's not bad after that. The rocker bolts work the same way with the locktite on the bolt head from the factory instead of on the threads themselves. Not a bad place to put the locktite when you think about it.


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