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Old 11-23-2006, 05:39 PM
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Default Can you build 427 c.i. using an iron 6.0L block?

Can the 6.0L iron block be bored and stroked to produce 427 cubic inches? If not, what is the most cost effective block/bore/stroke combination to produce a 427?
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A 4.060 bore and 4.125 crank produces a long-stroke 427. A 4.080 (L92) bore and 4.100 stroke gets a 429. Whether these are the most cost-effective ways to go is another question. You're either going to spend money on a C5R or sleeved block or on a over-4" stroker crank and custom pistons.

Texas Speed lists a 4.100 Eagle crank at the same price as a 4.000, $900. Combine that with a 4.060 LQ9 block and you get 424.6. Close enough? The disadavantage is that I believe you'll need to spring for custom pistons, so that's a few hundred extra.

The 4.00" stroke appears to be very popular with LSx engines, the larger strokes much less so. I suspect there are good reasons for this having to do with block deck height, compression distance, etc.

Texas Speed does a 418 4.080x4 L92 shortblock for $4755. Katech has their value 4.125x4 sleeved 427s for a bit under $7k. I doubt it can be done much, if any, cheaper than either of these packages. You might call TSP and ask about a L92 block with the Eagle 4.1 crank and custom pistons for 429cid. I'm going to guess at around $5200. If you do, please post results; I'm interested myself.
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Actually, the long strokes are becoming much more popular these days. I wouldn't run longer than a 4.125" on a stock sleeve/iron bore legnth, but it can be done. Personally, I would do a 4.060" x 4.100" if I were working with a iron block. This will keep the cost at bay. Pistons won't be but $100 to $200 more than the average shelf piston. I'd say the iron 425 could be done for less than $4500.
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i would love to go bigger cubes, but resleeving a block costs an arm and a leg. i want to go bigger but there seems to be no cheap way of doing it, the 408 from TSP seems to be the best for the money.

it sucks that cheap, reliable, and fast cant all go together
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Originally Posted by JDP
i would love to go bigger cubes, but resleeving a block costs an arm and a leg. i want to go bigger but there seems to be no cheap way of doing it, the 408 from TSP seems to be the best for the money.

it sucks that cheap, reliable, and fast cant all go together
You could easily tell them to swap in the Eagle 4.100 crank instead of the 4". Price is the same. Pistons may be a touch more, but nothing unrealistic.
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Originally Posted by 427Nova
Can the 6.0L iron block be bored and stroked to produce 427 cubic inches? If not, what is the most cost effective block/bore/stroke combination to produce a 427?
To answer your question.. no a 427 is 7.0 liter’s
there is no such thing as a 6 liter block because the liters consist of bore and stroke, so the block can be any liter with in that range, a few over or under .. but only a few like 6.3 or 5.8 liters ..
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It's called a poor mans LS7 but certainly not something recommended. First off your over boring the 6.0 block and the cylinder walls will become too thin. If the block was sonic tested and you could take it .060 over and with a 4.10 crank you'd have a 425. It's best to not go over .030 on the bore and build a more reliable engine though.
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Originally Posted by CM1Magnus
To answer your question.. no a 427 is 7.0 liter’s
there is no such thing as a 6 liter block because the liters consist of bore and stroke, so the block can be any liter with in that range, a few over or under .. but only a few like 6.3 or 5.8 liters ..
Actually up to a 7.2 liter engine can be built. Check out Can-block-be-saved-4-250-stroke-lq9-build thread explores what possible.
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Originally Posted by CM1Magnus
To answer your question.. no a 427 is 7.0 liter’s
there is no such thing as a 6 liter block because the liters consist of bore and stroke, so the block can be any liter with in that range, a few over or under .. but only a few like 6.3 or 5.8 liters ..
Generically speaking, LS blocks are regarded by their ORIGINAL displacement because the displacement is cast into the end of the block (4.8/5.3, 6.0, etc.). Any 4.00" bore block is a 6.0 block, and 3.78" bore is a 4.8/5.3 block due to 2 different stroke cranks used to get the 2 displacements.
GM can do this because except for the 4.8 and LS7, all LS engines use the same stroke crank.
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Holy "back from the dead thread" Batman...!!!
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Originally Posted by 01CamaroSSTx
It's called a poor mans LS7 but certainly not something recommended. First off your over boring the 6.0 block and the cylinder walls will become too thin. If the block was sonic tested and you could take it .060 over and with a 4.10 crank you'd have a 425. It's best to not go over .030 on the bore and build a more reliable engine though.
👆🏼This right here. Reliability is key, why spend thousand of dollars on a build that will ultimately fail sooner rather then later, and you'll have to start over again from scratch . Build a solid 408 for boost or nitrous and you'll be running with the big boys. Or buy a ready build 427 and go from there. I'm thinking of doing a 12:1 408 set up to hold a 300 shot and throw a 200 shot down it's throat. Over build for reliability, nothing wrong with that.
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Question Huh??

Originally Posted by CM1Magnus
To answer your question.. no a 427 is 7.0 liter’s
there is no such thing as a 6 liter block because the liters consist of bore and stroke, so the block can be any liter with in that range, a few over or under .. but only a few like 6.3 or 5.8 liters ..
Profound statement to say the least.....
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Originally Posted by Old Buzzard
Profound statement to say the least.....
Plus he had the ignorance to think the poster he was replying to was still around to read his profundity... LOL
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Originally Posted by CM1Magnus
To answer your question.. no a 427 is 7.0 liter’s
there is no such thing as a 6 liter block because the liters consist of bore and stroke, so the block can be any liter with in that range, a few over or under .. but only a few like 6.3 or 5.8 liters ..
The LQ9 is commonly referred to as a 6.0L block, because that WAS the factory displacement they were available in. Of course they can be built in many sizes. But what your saying only confuses things. Its like saying the LS1 5.7L block isn't a 5.7L block, which it is commonly known as. I seem to be missing your point on all this. Why promote confusion over commonly used terminology, in use for over 20 years now?? To add insult to injury, you've brought back a 16 year old thread!!!!!


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Originally Posted by G Atsma
Plus he had the ignorance to think the poster he was replying to was still around to read his profundity... LOL
Yup, the guy has probably built, then wore out, whatever engine he ended up with, since 2006!! Plus, he hasn't posted anything since 2018.......
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Originally Posted by CM1Magnus
To answer your question.. no a 427 is 7.0 liter’s
there is no such thing as a 6 liter block because the liters consist of bore and stroke, so the block can be any liter with in that range, a few over or under .. but only a few like 6.3 or 5.8 liters ..
That has to be one of the most ignorant things I have ever heard....ever....
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@CM1Magnus seems to have breathed life back into into this 14 year old thread with his single post...and hopefully learned some in the process.
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Originally Posted by LilJayV10
That has to be one of the most ignorant things I have ever heard....ever....
Funny 🤣
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