Can you build 427 c.i. using an iron 6.0L block?
#1
Can you build 427 c.i. using an iron 6.0L block?
Can the 6.0L iron block be bored and stroked to produce 427 cubic inches? If not, what is the most cost effective block/bore/stroke combination to produce a 427?
#2
12 Second Club
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Sarasota, FL
Posts: 302
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
A 4.060 bore and 4.125 crank produces a long-stroke 427. A 4.080 (L92) bore and 4.100 stroke gets a 429. Whether these are the most cost-effective ways to go is another question. You're either going to spend money on a C5R or sleeved block or on a over-4" stroker crank and custom pistons.
Texas Speed lists a 4.100 Eagle crank at the same price as a 4.000, $900. Combine that with a 4.060 LQ9 block and you get 424.6. Close enough? The disadavantage is that I believe you'll need to spring for custom pistons, so that's a few hundred extra.
The 4.00" stroke appears to be very popular with LSx engines, the larger strokes much less so. I suspect there are good reasons for this having to do with block deck height, compression distance, etc.
Texas Speed does a 418 4.080x4 L92 shortblock for $4755. Katech has their value 4.125x4 sleeved 427s for a bit under $7k. I doubt it can be done much, if any, cheaper than either of these packages. You might call TSP and ask about a L92 block with the Eagle 4.1 crank and custom pistons for 429cid. I'm going to guess at around $5200. If you do, please post results; I'm interested myself.
Texas Speed lists a 4.100 Eagle crank at the same price as a 4.000, $900. Combine that with a 4.060 LQ9 block and you get 424.6. Close enough? The disadavantage is that I believe you'll need to spring for custom pistons, so that's a few hundred extra.
The 4.00" stroke appears to be very popular with LSx engines, the larger strokes much less so. I suspect there are good reasons for this having to do with block deck height, compression distance, etc.
Texas Speed does a 418 4.080x4 L92 shortblock for $4755. Katech has their value 4.125x4 sleeved 427s for a bit under $7k. I doubt it can be done much, if any, cheaper than either of these packages. You might call TSP and ask about a L92 block with the Eagle 4.1 crank and custom pistons for 429cid. I'm going to guess at around $5200. If you do, please post results; I'm interested myself.
#3
TECH Veteran
iTrader: (21)
Actually, the long strokes are becoming much more popular these days. I wouldn't run longer than a 4.125" on a stock sleeve/iron bore legnth, but it can be done. Personally, I would do a 4.060" x 4.100" if I were working with a iron block. This will keep the cost at bay. Pistons won't be but $100 to $200 more than the average shelf piston. I'd say the iron 425 could be done for less than $4500.
#4
TECH Fanatic
iTrader: (21)
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Allen Park, MI
Posts: 1,370
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
i would love to go bigger cubes, but resleeving a block costs an arm and a leg. i want to go bigger but there seems to be no cheap way of doing it, the 408 from TSP seems to be the best for the money.
it sucks that cheap, reliable, and fast cant all go together
it sucks that cheap, reliable, and fast cant all go together
#5
TECH Veteran
iTrader: (21)
Originally Posted by JDP
i would love to go bigger cubes, but resleeving a block costs an arm and a leg. i want to go bigger but there seems to be no cheap way of doing it, the 408 from TSP seems to be the best for the money.
it sucks that cheap, reliable, and fast cant all go together
it sucks that cheap, reliable, and fast cant all go together
The following users liked this post:
02*C5 (04-06-2022)
#6
Registered User
Join Date: Apr 2022
Location: Virginia
Posts: 1
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
there is no such thing as a 6 liter block because the liters consist of bore and stroke, so the block can be any liter with in that range, a few over or under .. but only a few like 6.3 or 5.8 liters ..
#7
11 Second Club
iTrader: (3)
It's called a poor mans LS7 but certainly not something recommended. First off your over boring the 6.0 block and the cylinder walls will become too thin. If the block was sonic tested and you could take it .060 over and with a 4.10 crank you'd have a 425. It's best to not go over .030 on the bore and build a more reliable engine though.
Trending Topics
#8
TECH Senior Member
iTrader: (4)
#9
TECH Senior Member
GM can do this because except for the 4.8 and LS7, all LS engines use the same stroke crank.
The following users liked this post:
G Atsma (04-06-2022)
#11
TECH Fanatic
iTrader: (1)
It's called a poor mans LS7 but certainly not something recommended. First off your over boring the 6.0 block and the cylinder walls will become too thin. If the block was sonic tested and you could take it .060 over and with a 4.10 crank you'd have a 425. It's best to not go over .030 on the bore and build a more reliable engine though.
#12
TECH Enthusiast
Huh??
Profound statement to say the least.....
#13
TECH Senior Member
The following 2 users liked this post by G Atsma:
Ls7colorado (04-07-2022), Old Buzzard (04-07-2022)
#14
TECH Fanatic
iTrader: (1)
Last edited by grinder11; 04-08-2022 at 10:02 AM.
The following users liked this post:
G Atsma (04-08-2022)
The following 3 users liked this post by LilJayV10:
#17
TECH Senior Member
iTrader: (4)
@CM1Magnus seems to have breathed life back into into this 14 year old thread with his single post...and hopefully learned some in the process.
The following users liked this post:
02*C5 (04-08-2022)
The following users liked this post:
G Atsma (04-08-2022)