Mac vs. Pacesetters
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I've heard the gain is quite a bit more than 2 hp, but Mac mids are a viable option and have been proven to make great power. If emissions aren't a problem, I'd go with the Pacesetters. They should be close in price and the LT's will make more power......not a lot more, but ~5-10.
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Originally Posted by silverLS199
why are they such a waste?
I can't even count how many people I have seen on these boards curse themselves for not getting long tubes the first time.
I would recommend pacesetters. I am biased, but I, along with many others, truely believe that they are definitely the best bang for the buck. Mine are great quality and they cost me like $500 w/ an ORY.
All that being said, it is still your decision, so Good Luck!
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I am making pretty good power with my MAC headers and Magnaflow exhaust but I bought mine about 4 years ago. If I were to do it now I would get a set of LT's for sure since they are so cheap now. I think I paid the same price for my MAC's as the Pacesetters. You always have the ebay headers to as an option.
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you are going to get more torque from the long tubes via the collector and its length. really does not matter which brand. i am sure they both have 3/8 flanges and the welds are good.
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I had Macs for about 4 years and just switched to long tubes. The Macs make good power but the sound is better and less raspy with the long tubes. On the plus side for Macs they won't come near to hitting the K member and the ceramic coating (if you get it) will last longer on Macs cause they don't sit underneath the car. Coated longtubes always peel underneath the car by the collectors fist.
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Originally Posted by jpat1023
Look, your going to spend money on your car, right? And you want to get headers so that your car performs and sounds better. Well, I always like to research before I spend money on my car. If you did some research, which should be fairly easy b/c exhaust info is covered extensively on this site, you would find out it is a proven fact that LT's gain significantly more hp than shorties or mids on our cars. So if you are going to spend money on your car looking for a power and a sound increase, why not just do it right the first time??
I can't even count how many people I have seen on these boards curse themselves for not getting long tubes the first time.
I would recommend pacesetters. I am biased, but I, along with many others, truely believe that they are definitely the best bang for the buck. Mine are great quality and they cost me like $500 w/ an ORY.
All that being said, it is still your decision, so Good Luck!
I can't even count how many people I have seen on these boards curse themselves for not getting long tubes the first time.
I would recommend pacesetters. I am biased, but I, along with many others, truely believe that they are definitely the best bang for the buck. Mine are great quality and they cost me like $500 w/ an ORY.
All that being said, it is still your decision, so Good Luck!
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Originally Posted by mullenh
you are going to get more torque from the long tubes via the collector and its length. really does not matter which brand. i am sure they both have 3/8 flanges and the welds are good.
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Originally Posted by lsx24
Macs just don't scavenge as much as long tubes, so the midrange tq is down slightly. Here's a before/after MACs vs Long Tubes from the Exhaust FAQ
hey if there isn't much difference then why not shorties? why bother with the extra weight of full headers; oh yea because they work. this is simple if you can't run long tubes get the mid length as a second best choice.