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Old 02-23-2009, 02:41 PM
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42# Injectors, Inline Fuel Pump
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Mickey Thompson Et Street Radial 255/50 R16

It Dyno'd 470/475

Video - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3-PzeFkSCZg
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Its was at the Bradenton Track and I wish they didn't rip the timeslips in half so I would have seen what the other cars I raced that days times were since I was running with n/t on the car. The vette in the video redlighted on that run. He said he had heads and cam, didnt tell me the heads or the duration of the cam otherwise I would have posted that to. He had ran a 12.01 earlier that day that I saw. I ran that time after running it twice before without cooling down and it was my 6th run ever at the track and I was peddling until then since I don't have the requirements for running faster than a 11.5 and didn't wanna get kicked out until I was ready to leave. I think it has more in it with a little more tweaking. I put the thing at the end of the video to make you all laugh.

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im suprised no comments at all and 38 views.
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I agree
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Originally Posted by Intercooler2
I agree
you agree with what?
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That with that combo you should be 11.0 or a high 10
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Originally Posted by Intercooler2
That with that combo you should be 11.0 or a high 10
And trapping 120mph-122mph
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Even with completely stock suspension and full weight? I figured i could get it down to a 11.1 or 11.2 next time probably, but not a high 10. Then again I had 2 runs in a row and this was my third run in a row so i was hot lapping it and it felt like it was dragging the rpms past the 6200 i wanted to shift at, but I didn't have hpt hooked up to log it since my friend was using it to log his nitrous cobalt. It also was only my 6th pass ever at the track so I think that with a little more practice I can get it lower to.
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yea i would say good clutch and better tire heck yea you got a 10 easy but 11.4 with that small tire you got on it with no susp. is not bad my friend more seat time and you'll find the sweet spot keep us informed
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Originally Posted by SREETRACEGUY
yea i would say good clutch and better tire heck yea you got a 10 easy but 11.4 with that small tire you got on it with no susp. is not bad my friend more seat time and you'll find the sweet spot keep us informed
Its an a4 not an m6. So what do you mean by good clutch? It already has the 3/4 z pack in it for the 3/4 clutch pack and has a shift kit. I had 28x11.5's that didn't fit that I bought used that I'm going to put up for sale sometime soon since I do not wanna roll the fender and all that to get them on there where I do not have to worry about them rubbing since its so close and looks like they will rub.
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your tune is off and your gearing is wrong you need 3.73's minimum if your gonna drag race my buddies stock 2001 z28 with 150 wet shot and tires went 11.50 @ 117

my brothers cam only 1997 swapped ls1 with stock heads 853 casting hpe s cam 4500 stall and 3.73 gears

nirtous 150 wet shot single fogger

60 ft 1.437
330 4.192
1/8 6.511
mph 107.86
1000 8.525
1/4 10.239
mph 131.39

same car all motor

1997 ss

60 1.651
330 4.787
1/8 7.380
mph 95.07
1000 9.618
1/4 11.501
mph 119.03
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tune is off your tires are too big and your gearing is wrong plain and simple this is the car on a 150 wet shot 1997 ss with the same mods just now stock ls6 heads

60 1.402
330 4.078
1/6.344
mph 106.69
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Originally Posted by Red98a4SS
tune is off your tires are too big and your gearing is wrong plain and simple this is the car on a 150 wet shot 1997 ss with the same mods just now stock ls6 heads

60 1.402
330 4.078
1/6.344
mph 106.69
the tires I have on it are 255/50 r16 mickeys how are they to big? the 28x11.5's didnt fit how i wanted so I never ran them. Its also was my first day ever taking it to the track and my 6 pass ever down the track in the car. its 3.42 gearing so not that far from 3.73. its also a4 not an m6. it also it has stock heads, stock intake manifold, stock maf and throttle body, stock pistons, and just comp 7.4 hardened push rods and the stock lid. other mods can be seen above. the car was also tuned by jeremy formato and the injectors were at 96%-98% duty cycle that day and the fuel pressure was dropping up top a little so I'm trying figure out how the tune off. the graph is here - https://ls1tech.com/forums/dynamomet...nod-today.html along with a link to a video of the day it got dyno'd. It is also a daily driven street car and not just a track car.

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im not knocking your car but the horsepower seems low and the 1/4 mile time is definately not right for your mods i understand you are new to the track but your 60ft is really good so it shouldnt matter if your expierenced or not your 60ft determines that but i would say look into a different tuner and your tires are fine i thought you had the 28's on it im not hating but plain and simple something is not right
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Hey Red I'm the Nitrous Cobalt he was talking about. Helped him build the Trans Am and was there when it was tuned. The Tune is not "off" it was done by Jeremy Formato. If you don't know who that is type the name into the search box here and on Google. He's well known in this community as an LSX Tuner God. He's done 1000's of LS engine tune and every setup imagined.
The reason he's not in the low 500's in dyno is because the car is over 100,000 miles and Jermey was leary of putting to much strain on it. And John2005 didn't want him to push the car to hard either so said keep where it was at 475. The words out of Jermey's mouth was he could make it hit 500 if John wanted but John said don't worry he was happy where he was.

I ran the track once in the T/A for the first time and cut a 1.8 60 so it's not that he's doing a bad job. And he was also not reviving it up to launch. He was basically just getting off the brake and pushing down the gas at the light.
He wasn't preloading the supsion by power braking and rasising the rpms to get close to the stall (3200) so he wasn't even launching it anywhere near what he could off. But then again I didn't either.

I'm sure the car had a 1.4 60 in it at the track had he launched the car off the stall and since the track was well prepped because they had Alcohol Funny cars running that day he could of pulled a 1.4 60 launching at 3200.
Which means he could very well have run a 10.9 to 11.2 that day but again he didn't want to push the car hard for it's first track day.

Here's to next time!
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sorry bud i my mistake well def. lower gears and the tire you ran 255/50r16 is small for no susps. but none the less a good tire
the gears are hurting you a lot and thats a tight stall really i got a 3600 and its to tight

you say you got some 28 11.5 16s et streets ??? i'm fixing to buy some so if you want to get rid of them lets talk ???
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you should be trapping higher with that kind of power.
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Originally Posted by John2005
Even with completely stock suspension and full weight? I figured i could get it down to a 11.1 or 11.2 next time probably, but not a high 10. Then again I had 2 runs in a row and this was my third run in a row so i was hot lapping it and it felt like it was dragging the rpms past the 6200 i wanted to shift at, but I didn't have hpt hooked up to log it since my friend was using it to log his nitrous cobalt. It also was only my 6th pass ever at the track so I think that with a little more practice I can get it lower to.
Check out the video in my sig.. That was done with a N/A, full weight (3600lb race weight) 2002 H/C/I Z28 Camaro that made 447rwhp and 403rwtrq.. With that power you should be trapping 124+ mph.
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you have the stock ls1 manifold? I'd say find an ls6 and go 373 gears. Also get ported maf ends, with that and traction you should be in the 10's. Also do a little weight reduction. Theres alot of free stuff you can do to shed weight.
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i don't think those times are that bad considering his car is probably very heavy. a ws6 with a sc setup added in with a decent sized driver would be 3800+. 96 mph or so in 1/8th and 120 or so in the 1/4 should be more like what i think it should be capable of.
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Originally Posted by SREETRACEGUY
sorry bud i my mistake well def. lower gears and the tire you ran 255/50r16 is small for no susps. but none the less a good tire
the gears are hurting you a lot and thats a tight stall really i got a 3600 and its to tight

you say you got some 28 11.5 16s et streets ??? i'm fixing to buy some so if you want to get rid of them lets talk ???
they are not et streets they are the tires and wheels from this thread - https://ls1tech.com/forums/lsx-parts...n20-parts.html I can hopefully have pictures up tomorrow if you are interested. I have 300 in them and would sell them for $275 plus actual shipping to get rid of them since they are just sitting around. They have no more miles than what jason said they have. I just test fitted them and took them off since they where so close.

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you have the stock ls1 manifold? I'd say find an ls6 and go 373 gears. Also get ported maf ends, with that and traction you should be in the 10's. Also do a little weight reduction. Theres alot of free stuff you can do to shed weight.
Its my daily driver car. I say full weight even though I removed the back seat since I have 2 amps an aftermarket double din head unit and a 10" sub in the back since it about equals it. I am done as far as modding the car if i did anything it would be the dual in tank pumps to help my fuel pressure up top. The cobalt owner and I got a 1990 camaro rs that will be our project car and will be a track car pretty much, but it will be a few years before its done.

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i don't think those times are that bad considering his car is probably very heavy. a ws6 with a sc setup added in with a decent sized driver would be 3800+. 96 mph or so in 1/8th and 120 or so in the 1/4 should be more like what i think it should be capable of.
Its not a real ws6. Its a trans am the previous owner put that hood on its a suncoast ws6 hood. Yeah I am a decent sized driver to I need to go on a diet to run faster times since the only mod id do is above pretty much.

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