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Throwing SS Badges on a Z28, wrong or right

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Old Mar 17, 2007 | 08:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Azrael
It is only through the door option code, but the VIN will get you those codes. As an asside SS' are usually identified as Z28 on insurance and VIN lookups.

+1, but State Farm DOES have an option for SS'es..on '02's, it will even ask if it is a "2002 Camaro 35th Anniversary SS" or a "2002 Camaro Limited Edition 35th Anniversary SS". I saw this when I insured/bought mine.
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Old Mar 17, 2007 | 08:40 PM
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Originally Posted by 94blownz281
also a older guy at my work bought a 98 mustang wrecked and redid it and then goes ahead and puts cobra emblems on it. i was like what the hell how gay. but once again its not my car.
Gonna look even more when even a bone stock LS1 smokes the holy hell out of him!
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Old Mar 17, 2007 | 09:03 PM
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Originally Posted by brandonppr
Thats the exact page I was thinking of during this thread. I use to have that picture hanging on my wall before I ever got an LS1... I must have read that thing no less than 100 times.
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Old Mar 17, 2007 | 09:05 PM
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I cant see where it was mentioned, but IIRC, the SS came stock w/ 3" exhaust from the cat back where as the Z28 had 2 3/4". Same as a WS6 to a T/A or Formula
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Old Mar 18, 2007 | 03:28 AM
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any vehicle can be an "SS"...
trailblazer, monte carlo, Camaro, Cobalt (WTF?), Chevelle, Silverado, Impala, etc....

but there's only ONE Z-28...

seems like the exclusiveness of the SS has becomes much less significant now...

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Old Mar 18, 2007 | 04:00 AM
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Z28 is an option pkg, SS is a performance pkg.
So again every camaro SS is a Z28 just with more junk in the trunk, period end of story.
But a camaro Z28 is just a ******* camaro Z28.
Now everybody who thinks not go do your homework or just please!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Old Mar 18, 2007 | 06:35 AM
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Originally Posted by brandonppr
does the vin have a number to identify that the Z28 has the SS package on it or is it only a option code on the door?
You have selective reading don't you?
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Old Mar 18, 2007 | 11:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Justin00SS
You have selective reading don't you?
no I don't Its just that the only thing that the vin shows is it is either a Z28 or a 3.8 and SS is just an option on the Z28

The mustang vin shows if it is a 3.8 or a GT or a Cobra

2002 is the only year I see any real difference in the SS.


I am now less convinced that if I wanted to put SS on my Z28 that I need to buy a Z28 that already had SS on it.
If you don't car about original parts why would anyone pay 4-8k over what they could get the same car and put less than 1k in and be the same car?
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Old Mar 18, 2007 | 11:23 AM
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You didn't do very well in grade school either I'd imagine.
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Old Mar 18, 2007 | 11:35 AM
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Wrong. It's one thing to add the SS hood and spoiler but the badging is taking it too far, that's labeling it as something it is not. Sure it may be the same as an SS after what the owner has done to it modification wise, but the VIN will always hold it true that the car still is a z28. I really don't see a difference between the z28 and SS, and if someone did do the badging it's not the end of the world, just a bit tacky IMO.
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Old Mar 18, 2007 | 11:41 AM
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Originally Posted by 99 LS1
Wrong. It's one thing to add the SS hood and spoiler but the badging is taking it too far, that's labeling it as something it is not. Sure it may be the same as an SS after what the owner has done to it modification wise, but the VIN will always hold it true that the car still is a z28. I really don't see a difference between the z28 and SS, and if someone did do the badging it's not the end of the world, just a bit tacky IMO.
THE VIN DOES NOT DENOTE AN SS AS AN SS. IT IS STILL A Z28.

Its the RPOs that denote it as an SS. LOLOL

Read people. I've said it and a bunch of others have said it countless times in this thread.

SS is not a real trim package like Cobra or GT is for the Mustangs.

Its an option.
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Old Mar 18, 2007 | 12:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Justin00SS
You didn't do very well in grade school either I'd imagine.
?????
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Old Mar 18, 2007 | 12:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Justin00SS
THE VIN DOES NOT DENOTE AN SS AS AN SS. IT IS STILL A Z28.

Its the RPOs that denote it as an SS. LOLOL

Read people. I've said it and a bunch of others have said it countless times in this thread.

SS is not a real trim package like Cobra or GT is for the Mustangs.

Its an option.
agreed

here is a decoder: http://www.cadillacfaq.com/rpo/index.php
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Old Mar 18, 2007 | 02:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Justin00SS
Your forgetting the auburn differential and better suspension.
Originally Posted by brandonppr
I don't see those as an option anywhere in the brochure.
These are 1998-1999 brochures.
Where is that info or were those dealer installed options?
Perhaps if you read the entire ad that you posted you would have seen that it mentioned the Torsen performance axle.
Originally Posted by brandonppr
I am now less convinced that if I wanted to put SS on my Z28 that I need to buy a Z28 that already had SS on it.
If you don't car about original parts why would anyone pay 4-8k over what they could get the same car and put less than 1k in and be the same car?
I'm gonna have to call BS on that unless you can produce sales receipts showing where you've purchased an OEM SS hood and spoiler, 17" SS wheels, exhaust, differential, suspension components, etc. and had them painted / installed for under $1000. Sorry, I don't think so. If the SS badge means as little as you say it does, then why would you want to replace your Z28 badges in the first place??

It's like I said before:
Originally Posted by AnimalSS
The bottom line is, if the SS wasn't perceived as slightly "better" or "above" a Z28, no Z28 owner would consider changing the badges on their car.
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Old Mar 18, 2007 | 03:52 PM
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Originally Posted by AnimalSS
Perhaps if you read the entire ad that you posted you would have seen that it mentioned the Torsen performance axle.

This is why, because it Torsen is stadard on all Z28s with or without the SS package
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Old Mar 18, 2007 | 04:22 PM
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Originally Posted by AnimalSS
I'm gonna have to call BS on that unless you can produce sales receipts showing where you've purchased an OEM SS hood and spoiler, 17" SS wheels, exhaust, differential, suspension components, etc. and had them painted / installed for under $1000. Sorry, I don't think so. If the SS badge means as little as you say it does, then why would you want to replace your Z28 badges in the first place??

It's like I said before:
I meant in my case

Hood: someone already put the SS hood on the car It is not OEM nor would I want OEM if it was original on the car because this is a race car and I want weight reduction. the oem hood is heavier than the aftermarket and my hood fits perfectly.

Wheels: I already had the wheels before I even bought the car. I got them from a dealer and they were OEM takeoffs. $450 when I bought them

Spoiler: I just bought the spoiler that was part of my cost $500 already painted

exhaust: bullet mufflers off headers. If it had oem exhaust it would have been long gone.

Rear end: 12bolt Moser with spool. I don't know what differences there where in the diffs but the ten bolt is gone anyway.

Emblems: I just think the emblems complete the apperence package. I don't like it with Z emblems I don't like it badgeless. I like the emblems. I had to buy these I think they were around $25 each so thats $75.

So I spent $575 to complete it.
If I had not already had the wheels it would have made it $1075.

$575 is a lot less than $4000-$8000
If I had bought a car than already came with the SS package I could have probley sold the OEM hood and bought the aftermarket one and got a little money back out of it but whats that by the time I buy the aftermarket one like $300-$500.
Keep in mind I have cut this car up, it is my race car. Whats the point of spending all that extra just to cut it up?
There is just not enough diffence between the two to justify it.
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Old Mar 18, 2007 | 10:54 PM
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Originally Posted by brandonppr
I meant in my case

Hood: someone already put the SS hood on the car It is not OEM nor would I want OEM if it was original on the car because this is a race car and I want weight reduction. the oem hood is heavier than the aftermarket and my hood fits perfectly.

Wheels: I already had the wheels before I even bought the car. I got them from a dealer and they were OEM takeoffs. $450 when I bought them

Spoiler: I just bought the spoiler that was part of my cost $500 already painted

exhaust: bullet mufflers off headers. If it had oem exhaust it would have been long gone.

Rear end: 12bolt Moser with spool. I don't know what differences there where in the diffs but the ten bolt is gone anyway.

Emblems: I just think the emblems complete the apperence package. I don't like it with Z emblems I don't like it badgeless. I like the emblems. I had to buy these I think they were around $25 each so thats $75.

So I spent $575 to complete it.
If I had not already had the wheels it would have made it $1075.

$575 is a lot less than $4000-$8000
If I had bought a car than already came with the SS package I could have probley sold the OEM hood and bought the aftermarket one and got a little money back out of it but whats that by the time I buy the aftermarket one like $300-$500.
Keep in mind I have cut this car up, it is my race car. Whats the point of spending all that extra just to cut it up?
There is just not enough diffence between the two to justify it.

WTF??!!!!!!
One more time here is mine, read and learn kid....

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Old Mar 18, 2007 | 11:49 PM
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Originally Posted by brandonppr
I meant in my case
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Old Mar 19, 2007 | 06:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Kage
WTF??!!!!!!
One more time here is mine, read and learn kid....
wtf does this prove?
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Originally Posted by AnimalSS
wtf is this for?
Just because I said it would cost less than 1K in my case you have to ?
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