HID's On My WS6?

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Jan 8, 2008 | 08:58 AM

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I know the Kelvin number is the color temperature, not brightness. What I was saying is that I have projector housings, H3 size bulbs in 10,000K color. I like them a little bluer, and the projectors keep the light where I want it (<--see avatar to the left). I also have a set of auxiliary 55-watt halogen bulbs between the low beam and high beam projector housings, which provide extra light when I need it.

Do you have more pics of this? I can't really make out the avatar, but it almost looks like you got rid of the popups.

Jan 8, 2008 | 09:04 AM

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EuroLights, AutoOptics, and Hella are some manufacturers that produce conversion housings. Some people prefer Hella over the others. I don't have any experience with either. If you search on here you'll find where to buy conversion housings. HID should be used in projectors or a reflector that was designed for it (very rare).

BTW, avoid the fake projector conversion housings on ebay. They are not real projectors. They are just a regular reflector housing with a glass hemisphere tacked onto the front. I don't think there are any in the 4701/4703 size anyway.

Copy-and-paste from that other thread.

I'll try a search and post what I find.

Jan 8, 2008 | 09:11 AM

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Also, if you want conversion housings....and you want HID.... why not just but the conversion housing HID kit from www.ledgauges.com?

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Jan 8, 2008 | 11:45 AM

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Jan 8, 2008 | 12:04 PM

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Do you have more pics of this? I can't really make out the avatar, but it almost looks like you got rid of the popups.

I did completely remove the popups. Took out the carriage assembly and the steel frame that holds it and the motor. I'm not quite done with the whole project yet. I had to find some projector housings first, then fabbed a T-6 aluminum frame to hold the housings and the HID ballasts. The aluminum wasn't sturdy enough, so I re-did the whole thing in 14-gauge steel. Then I speed-tested them to 135 mph, exactly the way they are, no shaking, wobbling, or other movement. PLEASE IGNORE THE RUST ON THE FRAMES, I haven't coated them yet. As you can see from the last picture, I'm in the process of making a wireframe from which to fabricate a fiberglass surround. I'm still debating whether to try making a clear lens to go over everything in the shape of the headlight doors. I'm going to wait till I'm done with the tubs and get them paint-matched to the car, then see how it looks.

The best part about the whole thing is that I didn't drill, cut, or weld anything in the frame. I'm using stock mounting points for everything, so the entire mod is completely reversible if I want to change one part of it, sell the car, or go back to the pop-ups. Pictures to follow.

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Jan 8, 2008 | 12:14 PM

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Still trying to find a location to purchase the housings for the HID's.....any ideas?

Jan 8, 2008 | 12:22 PM

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I tried looking for a long time before I eventually went this route (cuz I was tired of the damn motors and gears in the popups), but I never found anything. You'd probably have to go with the ledgauges kit that VIP1 was talking about... $334 isn't bad for a good HID kit, and I've seen them on other cars; they look great. I'll keep looking for you when I go to the parts stores today. AutoZone has some good catalogs.

Jan 8, 2008 | 01:19 PM

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I just checked up on the price of the Euro Lamps and Hella units (from Rally Lights).

www(dot)rallylights(dot)com/hella/150mm.asp
www(dot)eurolamps(dot)com/eurolamps/camaro_headlights.htm

The Euro Lamps units are $156+ plus shipping for a pair and I dont like the blue tinted bulbs. The Hella units (from Rally Lights) are $224 plus shipping for a pair.

The conversion housing HID kit from www.ledgauges.com is $334 plus shipping.

The LED Gauges kit looks like the better value.
(Unless you want to try your luck on ebay.)

Here are some threads on conversion housings and HID:
https://ls1tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=740352 (Bosch Housing)
https://ls1tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=675481 (Bosch Housing)
https://ls1tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=837019
https://ls1tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=426616
https://ls1tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=755350
https://ls1tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=820232

https://ls1tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=632913
https://ls1tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=633157

More links and discussions on HID:
https://ls1tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=632913
https://ls1tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=718819

I waded through over 30 pages of search results for those links.
I tried to keep the threads listed relevant to this one.

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Still trying to find a location to purchase the housings for the HID's.....any ideas?

Not sure what more you could want? Those first 3 links he posted should be all you need.

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Jan 8, 2008 | 07:36 PM

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Still trying to find a location to purchase the housings for the HID's.....any ideas?

Check out the first few lines of my previous post. They aren't active links because they aren't sponsors and these products are a grey area on whether or not we should post non-sponsors selling them. You should be able to figure it out by looking at it. The link to LED Gauges is an active link, because he is a sponsor.

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Not sure what more you could want? Those first 3 links he posted should be all you need.

Thanks.

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I tried looking for a long time before I eventually went this route (cuz I was tired of the damn motors and gears in the popups), but I never found anything.

Nice fabrication work.

Aren't those fog light projectors though?
What bulbs do they take?
What does the light pattern look like?

Jan 8, 2008 | 08:22 PM

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I realize your showing me a link...but I can't seem to find some place selling the bosche housings.....if you know of a company making the housings....PM me a link or something...I and I really don't wanna go through LED gauges, cause my company gets them cheaper....

Jan 8, 2008 | 11:34 PM

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It looks like the 150mm "Hella" conversion housings that Rally Lights has are actually Bosch.

Type "150mm bosch sealed beam conversion" into Google and the first link should be Rally Light's site.

Strange, but it takes an H4 bulb.
It's dual filament (hi/low) which is odd for two reasons:
1. The 4701 is a high beam only and the 4703 is a low beam only, designed for use in a 4 headlight arrangement (2 low, 2 high - like the late-4th-gen Firebird). Making a dual filament hybrid is unnecessary unless you want to make it have 4 low beam on at once and 4 high beam on at once. In which case, you'd need upgraded wiring to handle doubling the power consumption. Or you can choose to only wire-up the needed filament.
2. The H7 is a low beam only bulb, but it's lumen output is between the H4's low and high beam filaments.

I don't know what kind of bulb the EuroLights version uses.

I thought I saw a conversion housing that used a H7 bulb. It's probably in one of the threads I posted above.

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Jan 9, 2008 | 05:14 PM

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Nice fabrication work.

Aren't those fog light projectors though?
What bulbs do they take?
What does the light pattern look like?

They are fog housings, and they take an H3 size bulb. The light pattern is surprisingly wide for a fog lens. I had to use a couple spacers in the housings because the HID bulbs are longer, but it came out well. They have a shield inside the housing that keeps the light out of other drivers' eyes. Works great. haven't been stopped by any cops yet. Hehehe

Jan 10, 2008 | 01:35 AM

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Well I checked out the ones you told me to google, but at $69 a piece I'm starting to give this a second thought....I really just want to find empty housings, I now ebay sells em, but I just don't know what dimension. I also recall that the "nopi" site used to have them, but I searched through that site and no luck....any other ideas?

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