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Old Dec 19, 2009 | 11:55 AM
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I don't have a heated garage. Is it a bad idea to torque the heads and intake on at 35 degrees rather than a warmer temp like 70?? Is there any chance the head gaskets could seal any better/worse or compress more/less??
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Old Dec 19, 2009 | 04:57 PM
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hmmm good question... well alum expands when it gets hot and contracts when it gets cold.... i don't see enough to make a huge diff...
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Does anyone think there would be more potential for the head gasket to leak???
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Old Dec 20, 2009 | 08:03 AM
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Does anyone think there would be more potential for the head gasket to leak???
No, it shouldn't matter, as long as you follow mfgr's torque spec. $.02
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Old Dec 20, 2009 | 12:15 PM
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i would say that the temps would be ok. just as long as all the parts are the same temp during assembly. dont torque a 70degree head that was in your basement onto a freezing block.im no professional engine builder though.
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Old Dec 20, 2009 | 02:01 PM
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Does anyone think that warming the head gasket up to 70 degrees would actually allow it to compress more since heat tends to make things more pliable?? I am not sure what compressable material the gasket is made from. My intention was to keep the heads and block at the same cold temp but I did consider allowing the gaskets to warm up.
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Old Dec 20, 2009 | 02:47 PM
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The compression of the gasket is going to be affected a lot more by your reading of your torque wrench and it's calibration than by its temp. Consider it a completely insignificant variable.
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Old Dec 20, 2009 | 06:16 PM
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I've put heads onto stone cold motors (20* F) without any issues.

My guess is that if you heated it (the gasket) to 70* by the time you got the head on and bolts started...it would be the same temperature as the head/block.
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I don't have a heated garage. Is it a bad idea to torque the heads and intake on at 35 degrees rather than a warmer temp like 70?? Is there any chance the head gaskets could seal any better/worse or compress more/less??
I would think theoretically at the lower temperature the gasket along with the block and head would have some thermal shrinking so at the same torque value as 70 degrees, you would compress the gasket more at the colder temperature and have somewhat better sealing at operating temperature.

I'm betting in real world however, the amount of expansion in the aluminum and MLS gasket between 20F and 70F is insignificant. The head is going to heat up to several hundred degrees at operating temperature and everthing will expand by a much greater factor.
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Old Dec 20, 2009 | 10:40 PM
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Thanks for the info guys. It is appreciated.
You have eased my concerns quite a bit.
Looks like I'll be assembling it cold.
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So then the only question then is can the assembler achieve the necessary bolt torque while his hands are at 20 degrees?
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Old Dec 21, 2009 | 08:21 PM
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Ah yes...the dreaded numb fingers .
This will require gloves and (quite likely) a few trips into the warming shack...aka my house .
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Old Dec 21, 2009 | 08:42 PM
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The temp should not effect your seal, Like said before go by the mfg specs. Also if using the factory head bolts the original head bolts are touque to yeld and the bolts must be replaced. Make sure you use a degree gauge you can pick it up at Napa for about $15.00.
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