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Perhaps a sort of bare bones coil relocation kit for the ls engine? Just a bracket with appropriate hardware to mount 4 coils together and let the end user pic the location, but maybe show a few recomendations to give people ideas?
might let you cater to not just the F-body crowd
might let you cater to not just the F-body crowd
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Mark can chime in if I am wrong here, but the last 2 pics are or at least look just like the seats 6LE are basing theyre Z28 seats from just with different material options. I forget the name of company that makes them, but there are 2 Trans ams on this site using those seats. I light grey set and the other is black with red stitching.
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Mark can chime in if I am wrong here, but the last 2 pics are or at least look just like the seats 6LE are basing theyre Z28 seats from just with different material options. I forget the name of company that makes them, but there are 2 Trans ams on this site using those seats. I light grey set and the other is black with red stitching.
We ended up using a base seat like that but then having to replace the entire inner backing (cheap FG that cracks when you do anything to it) and a couple metal bars. Then refoam the entire inner seat, trim to the new style covers and install.
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Mark can chime in if I am wrong here, but the last 2 pics are or at least look just like the seats 6LE are basing theyre Z28 seats from just with different material options. I forget the name of company that makes them, but there are 2 Trans ams on this site using those seats. I light grey set and the other is black with red stitching.
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The material is all vinyl "leatherette," with simulated carbon fiber weave on the backs and a tiny bit on the sides. The carbon fiber weave looks pretty convincing until you get real close up (not simulating carbon fiber reinforced plastic, just the carbon weave itself). The leatherette won't fool anyone with even a cursory knowledge of materials, but given the cheap grades of GM leather used from the factory to begin with, and the inevitable hardening over time, this stuff is light years more supple than any factory leather you may still have in your car. And it cleans up with just Armor All.
Comfort wise, they are definitely more stiff than the factory thrones, but for a sports car that's kind of the point. I was surprised to find the lumbar sufficient enough to make long rides comfortable. I've taken 7-8 hour drives and feel great when I get back out again. Something I cannot say for many factory seats. The side bolsters on the back are fixed, so some thicker people may object, but they fit me just fine. In fact, in extremely aggressive driving, I could stand for them to be even tighter on me as they have a bit of give to them. There is very little adjustability, only recline and slide forward/back. Even the flip forward function for rear seat access is gone; you have to use the recline lever and simply tilt forward (though they will tip all the way forward), then set the rake once you get back in again.
Will they fit you? Hard to say without trying. I've had a few husky friends in the car and they have asked if the side bolsters adjust out at first, but they seem to get used to them after a while. I actually went down to a distribution/showroom for Cipher out here in LA and tested them on the floor before buying a set on eBay.
As for quality, the seats seem well made. There are other versions of the same seat by different sellers which show bunched up vinyl in their pics and other issues that scare me, but these are upholstered well. The frame flexes side-to-side a bit if you thrash around in 'em like a kid without his Ritalin, but the same can be said of even Recaros I've tried. I think a full frame, non-reclining example is required for that level of rigidity.
Lest you think I am only giving you good news about these seats, the sliders they come with are absolute crap. They are double-locking, unlike the single-locking stockers, but the way they are stamped, the bearing race has ridges(!) across its entire length. And the ridges are painted. When I first put the seats in the car, I couldn't move them at all. I had to take each slider off, slide it back and forth until the ball bearings cut through the black paint and through the ridges to form some kind of race to roll against. They work now, but are still very stiff. If you aren't careful, you'll wind up between detents, and say, when you slam on the brakes, the seat could slide to its rearmost position leading to an accident if you cannot operate the pedals. Very important to make sure they are locked before getting underway. When I assembled the recline mechanism to the seat and back cushions, I felt as if one out of the several screws on the passenger throne was about to strip, so I left it as is. That could indicate issues with the frame inside or could be a fluke, as the rest were okay.
Lastly, I assembled them with Planted seat brackets, to adapt to the non-flat floorpan in our cars. The brackets are supposed to be universal for aftermarket seats, and there are holes that line up with the Cipher chairs. However, I discovered that these place the seats about an inch too far outboard, so I had to drill my own custom holes in the (very expensive) universal brackets to move each seat an inch closer to the center of the car. On top of that, I wanted to tilt the seat bottoms farther back, so I added coupling nuts to lift the forward edge by about 1.5". Needless to say, it's not simply a bolt-in replacement.
I probably should have started my own thread at this point. I don't really know why I haven't.
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How about something for the 'verts. Maybe some convertible top covers. Not all of us have them and they're hard to find for less than $300. I don't like the other aftermarket option either. More OEM style.
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Perhaps a sort of bare bones coil relocation kit for the ls engine? Just a bracket with appropriate hardware to mount 4 coils together and let the end user pic the location, but maybe show a few recomendations to give people ideas?
might let you cater to not just the F-body crowd
might let you cater to not just the F-body crowd
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