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Old 12-23-2013 | 07:21 PM
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so I was thinking about getting my ta another xmas present, and I decided on hid fogs. Just wanted your guys opinion on what is the best kit to go with. I was thinking about 6k or 8k. pics of both would be cool.
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Old 12-23-2013 | 10:29 PM
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I don't think you can go wrong with either 6 or 8k. They both look good. 6 will be a little brighter might be your better option. I don't have any pics of my 8k bit I like them alot
Old 12-23-2013 | 11:35 PM
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^^^^ Justin's hid setup is sexy. Funny I started to post earlier that you should ask Firebirdmuscle for pics. LOL.
Old 12-24-2013 | 12:01 AM
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On my truck i got some ddm ballast for the fog lights. on my Bonneville it already had 8000k when i bought it.



One of the bulbs blew so i switched em out to 6000k.


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Old 12-24-2013 | 07:57 AM
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I have 6k on my TA fogs, but like the pic above on the bonneville... They do look slight greenish. I wanted them to be more blue like the 8k and my headlight HIDs.

Not sure if you mention housings, but you shouldn't use the stock if you are changing to hid.
Old 12-25-2013 | 11:26 AM
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I have 4500 and they are a pure white.
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Go with 5000 or 4500 so they are a better light output
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3000k for fogs
Old 12-26-2013 | 09:50 AM
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Mine are 6k in the stock housing in my sig picture, just get 35w and you will be fine
Old 12-26-2013 | 09:52 AM
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Are these lights so bright that people flash you?
Old 12-26-2013 | 10:09 AM
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Not when they are in the fogs, I don't run them in the head lamps but my buddies do and they are not bad, unlike some of these vehicles throwing hid kits and spraying light every which direction
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I tried them in my winter beater with brand new crystal clear head lamp lenses and it was ridiculous, took them out
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I have 6k from ddm




The stock fogs actually handle them surprisingly well. I don't have to use my headlights they are plenty bright. If I park next to a wall with them they have a sort of "cutoff" so they don't glare up and blind people. I was very surprised.
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personally I wouldn't suggest it, fogs use lower kelvin temps for a reason 5000k and up is just the wrong color for a functional fog light to be of any use in actual FOG and the higher you go the less light you get, anything over 6000k and the blues and purples start to come in and the light output goes to crap, I don't get why people like the look of 8000k's so much, to me they look like total RICE on these cars. 2700k to 4000k is the range fogs should be in to actually work for fog, don't believe me, google it.

also FWIW, while it may be less an issue on T/A bumpers since the fogs are sunk so far back, don't use HID's on Firebird/Formula bumpers you WILL blind the living hell out of people, trust me, I put them in and saw the glare and swapped them back because of the glare, those that aren't seeing glare from that situation probably just have really CRAPPY ballasts, see this video for a quick comparison:

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Originally Posted by Daniel Richards
personally I wouldn't suggest it, fogs use lower kelvin temps for a reason 5000k and up is just the wrong color for a functional fog light to be of any use in actual FOG and the higher you go the less light you get, anything over 6000k and the blues and purples start to come in and the light output goes to crap, I don't get why people like the look of 8000k's so much, to me they look like total RICE on these cars. 2700k to 4000k is the range fogs should be in to actually work for fog, don't believe me, google it.

also FWIW, while it may be less an issue on T/A bumpers since the fogs are sunk so far back, don't use HID's on Firebird/Formula bumpers you WILL blind the living hell out of people, trust me, I put them in and saw the glare and swapped them back because of the glare, those that aren't seeing glare from that situation probably just have really CRAPPY ballasts, see this video for a quick comparison:
The lights being sunk back is the reason you are correct. You can see inside the inset where the light hits and is blocked. I can take a quick video if need be. That's the only reason I left them in there is because they don't produce the glare otherwise I'd have halogens in there.

I agree on the "temp rating" too. However, it depends on the brand. Personally I wouldn't go over 5000k but everyone has their own opinion. With the retrofit I had on my last car I have 55w 5000k from TRFS and they were pure white and perfect. I've seen cheap ebay kits that are "5000k" that look more like 8 or 10.
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Originally Posted by Streetlegal?
I agree on the "temp rating" too. However, it depends on the brand. Personally I wouldn't go over 5000k but everyone has their own opinion. With the retrofit I had on my last car I have 55w 5000k from TRFS and they were pure white and perfect. I've seen cheap ebay kits that are "5000k" that look more like 8 or 10.
Thats exactly why I posted the video, to show how certain kits are so bad they actually mess with the color output (and general light output) of the bulb so it's important to get a GOOD kit like the ones from TRFS (the Morimotos they sell are considered the best in the aftermarket brands) also using a 55watt ballast over a 35watt will alter the color (IIRC it makes it go down the scale, like a 5000k on 55 watt looks, color wise, like a 4500k on 35 watt), when comparing the same quality brand ballasts.

the HID's I have for my headlights, once I work out the mounting are 5000k Morimoto bulbs with 35watt ballasts purchased from Amazon using the criteria described in the video. They look great, nice and white, see pics and keep in mind this is just one projector loosely positioned.
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6000k Xentec from eBay, 30 bucks.
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Originally Posted by BoricuaHec01
6000k Xentec from eBay, 30 bucks.
= TOTAL CRAP, don't buy that crap. See video above for proof.
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Originally Posted by Streetlegal?
I have 6k from ddm


The stock fogs actually handle them surprisingly well. I don't have to use my headlights they are plenty bright. If I park next to a wall with them they have a sort of "cutoff" so they don't glare up and blind people. I was very surprised.

Those look fantastic. Did you have to mess with the wiring or just plugged bulbs in?
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I've run 35W 4300 or 5000k in my standard Firebird fogs for years, and as stated above, I rarely use my pop-up headlights in most around town driving.

I've also never been flashed at, waved at, bothered by cops or anybody else about blinding oncoming traffic. They're mounted too low to get into people's lines of sight. The spread pattern of the light is also much wider and better than with the T/A setup.


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