[HID PLANET]Think again before gettin a HID "kit"
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I really hope this thread can help you guys. You're making the road more dangerous than it already is by adding a HID kit to your car. so please do HID the right way by doing a retrofit.
HID kits are illegal due to the glare that they cause. Glare is Light that is emitted in a Uncontrollable path. When light is traveling in a uncontrollable path it can hit other vehicle operators affecting there vision because of the High amount of uncontrollable light that is being Emitted from a HID kit in a standard Halogen housing. If you have ever turned a flashlight on right in front of your face while it is dark out, that is the same feeling that the other drivers on the road experience from a standard HID kit.
OEM Vehicles such as Mercedes, BMW, Audi, Lexus are all equipped with HID or Xenon Headlights. Some use reflector housing’s without projectors. Others use HID projectors.
The Lexus IS300 is a Prime Example of a HID reflector housing. It does not use a Projector. It uses a Specially designed Reflector housing that is meant to use HID. This does not create the Super sharp cutoff. But it does control where the light is being Emitted.
Other vehicles such as the Honda S2000 Use HID projectors, These Projectors are meant to use HID. They are Specially Designed and have been tested Hundreds of times to get the right projection of light while maintaining a Good Cutoff.
Here are pictures of Halogen housings mated with a HID kit
9006 6000k HID Kit... mad glare
This teg is a prime example of Glare. This is what it looks like to oncoming traffic
Disaster pix. HID kit in Halogen Housing
NOW THE GOOD stuff..lol
This is what HID is suppose to look like.. Pictured is a STi
Talk about a Razor Sharp Cutoff. Pictured is a S2000 OEM setup
another S2000 Retrofit… YUMMY
Article stating why the kits are illegal.
http://www.nhtsa.gov/cars/rules/rulings/glare.html
See the difference?
Its not just honda's either. Here is a mid 90's Lexus with a HID kit..
To date, NHTSA has investigated 24 HID conversion kit suppliers; all investigations have resulted in recalls or termination of sales.
RM Racing
Astex USA
Kmax International
FET, Inc.
J. Liu LLC
Gourmet Garage
JC Whitney
Lighting Research
SPW Industries, Inc.
Pacific Micro-lite
McCulloch Motors, Inc.
Santeca Electronics
JF Manufacturing
Streetglow, Inc.
Outback Products, Inc.
Nu Performance
GR Motorsports, Inc.
Global Premier
New Clor
Importhookup.com
DG International
MTC Lighting
Umnitza
Liteglow
American Products Company
Enjoy fellas, i hope you learned something about HID's, now if there was only a way i could do something for my t/a.. . .hahaha
HID kits are illegal due to the glare that they cause. Glare is Light that is emitted in a Uncontrollable path. When light is traveling in a uncontrollable path it can hit other vehicle operators affecting there vision because of the High amount of uncontrollable light that is being Emitted from a HID kit in a standard Halogen housing. If you have ever turned a flashlight on right in front of your face while it is dark out, that is the same feeling that the other drivers on the road experience from a standard HID kit.
OEM Vehicles such as Mercedes, BMW, Audi, Lexus are all equipped with HID or Xenon Headlights. Some use reflector housing’s without projectors. Others use HID projectors.
The Lexus IS300 is a Prime Example of a HID reflector housing. It does not use a Projector. It uses a Specially designed Reflector housing that is meant to use HID. This does not create the Super sharp cutoff. But it does control where the light is being Emitted.
Other vehicles such as the Honda S2000 Use HID projectors, These Projectors are meant to use HID. They are Specially Designed and have been tested Hundreds of times to get the right projection of light while maintaining a Good Cutoff.
Here are pictures of Halogen housings mated with a HID kit
9006 6000k HID Kit... mad glare
![](http://www.plexus-designs.com/images/pic6.jpg)
This teg is a prime example of Glare. This is what it looks like to oncoming traffic
![](http://www.we-todd-did-racing.com/wetoddimage.wtdr/wMTQzNzUzNnM0MTNkZmQzMXk1NDE%3D.jpg)
Disaster pix. HID kit in Halogen Housing
![](http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid87/pfde7a3b82eb981d9b8d898b3f5ec5217/fa99725e.jpg)
![](http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid78/p483d6fec1d08dfaea8d2caa0cd7eb586/fb291d25.jpg)
NOW THE GOOD stuff..lol
This is what HID is suppose to look like.. Pictured is a STi
![](http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid89/p779d7f4c7529687f1e3c2cd2d63a2c8e/fa82f13d.jpg)
Talk about a Razor Sharp Cutoff. Pictured is a S2000 OEM setup
![](http://img127.exs.cx/img127/2544/img04703rx.jpg)
another S2000 Retrofit… YUMMY
![](http://hid.extremevelocity.net/gallery/04hondaaccord/DSC03494_small.jpg)
Article stating why the kits are illegal.
http://www.nhtsa.gov/cars/rules/rulings/glare.html
See the difference?
![](http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v81/DohDoh/HID20001_copy.jpg)
![](http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v81/DohDoh/hid_011copy.jpg)
Its not just honda's either. Here is a mid 90's Lexus with a HID kit..
![](http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v128/haknslash2003/hid%20pics/60490cfc.jpg)
To date, NHTSA has investigated 24 HID conversion kit suppliers; all investigations have resulted in recalls or termination of sales.
RM Racing
Astex USA
Kmax International
FET, Inc.
J. Liu LLC
Gourmet Garage
JC Whitney
Lighting Research
SPW Industries, Inc.
Pacific Micro-lite
McCulloch Motors, Inc.
Santeca Electronics
JF Manufacturing
Streetglow, Inc.
Outback Products, Inc.
Nu Performance
GR Motorsports, Inc.
Global Premier
New Clor
Importhookup.com
DG International
MTC Lighting
Umnitza
Liteglow
American Products Company
Enjoy fellas, i hope you learned something about HID's, now if there was only a way i could do something for my t/a.. . .hahaha
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my exgirlfriend had a mazda rx8 with the HID factory and it had the beautiful and colorful lines and no hot spots at all it was all eveny distributed and there were no central spots like you find on a halogen setup..not to mention it illuminated the road beautifully and was a less stain on your eyes...to bad she left me for the mazda dealer...oh well..nice HID setup anyways
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Originally Posted by sycotic_reject
lol errr never learn lol well how about this, has anyone ever even bother to making the headlight housing so that it will have sharp lines instead of that nasty glare?
Dunno, a buddy of mine is working on a custom setup of his own using parts from other cars with factory HIDs.
I've ordered a kit from the web for my LT1. I'll see how that one does. If i have glare, im going to see what i can rig up to prevent it. maybe some sort of metal sheild.
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Originally Posted by 3pnt4maro
my exgirlfriend had a mazda rx8 with the HID factory and it had the beautiful and colorful lines and no hot spots at all it was all eveny distributed and there were no central spots like you find on a halogen setup..not to mention it illuminated the road beautifully and was a less stain on your eyes...to bad she left me for the mazda dealer...oh well..nice HID setup anyways
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Originally Posted by v8maro
I used some HID's with my halo headlights, I had glare, did I care? no.
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Originally Posted by Nova5
Dunno, a buddy of mine is working on a custom setup of his own using parts from other cars with factory HIDs.
I've ordered a kit from the web for my LT1. I'll see how that one does. If i have glare, im going to see what i can rig up to prevent it. maybe some sort of metal sheild.
I've ordered a kit from the web for my LT1. I'll see how that one does. If i have glare, im going to see what i can rig up to prevent it. maybe some sort of metal sheild.
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IMO all HID should be banned because they ALL cause horrible pain to my eyes everywhere I drive. I flash my brights at them like crazy, sometimes swerve at them depending on how bright the HIDs are... Regardless of whether or not they're OEM and have the nice cut off and not a lot of glare, a lot of idiots out there don't understand how to adjust their headlights properly. It's one thing to have someone's halogen headlights aimmed too high... it's a whole different story when someone's HID headlights are aimmed too high (or atleast thats the only thing I can think of that would cause some of these guy's headlights to seem to be pointed straight at my face)
I'm an aggressive driver sometimes, though...
I'm an aggressive driver sometimes, though...
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Originally Posted by meissenation
sometimes swerve at them depending on how bright the HIDs are...
I used to have road rage issues too, until I got in a wreck and had to pay up. Good luck.
Too bad to hear that Umnitza was busted by the NHTA. Good cutomer service and good product. I bought a bitchen Xenon kit from them for my Mazda3. Then again the Mazda was designed for HID lights.