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Old Aug 22, 2009 | 03:34 PM
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The only complaint I have with the autos are they are weak when you really put the power behind them. I am very impressed with the response of my A4 car, especially with the 3.73's. I have driven standards muscle cars my whole life. Eventually you are going to have to go back auto anyways if you continue to put more and more power behind it. And then you have the none consistency issue. I learned to be real consistent with my stangs but its just a PITA when you are running nitrous and your car is pulling the wheels off the ground and walking the track. Id much rather have one less thing to do. and thats just my option
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Old Aug 22, 2009 | 03:42 PM
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Originally Posted by pat-ls101
The reason I ask is cause I see alot of a4 's w/ fast times and low trap speeds like 12.2 @ 106??
A4s are known for their ETs at the strip.. M6s are known for their trap speeds..

examples..

a4- 7.4@91mph
m6- 7.4@95mph

a4- 7.7@89mph
m6- 7.7@92mph

a4- 7.4@91mph
m6- 7.8@91mph

a4- 7.7@88mph
m6- 8.0@88mph

M6s arent as quick out of the hole but pull harder on the top end, this is another reason they are faster from a roll..
A4s are quicker out of the hole but dont pull as hard on the top end..

m6s for high traps or roll racing
a4s for quicker ets or real racing

hope that helps you understand a little better how A4s and M6s run at the track..
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Old Aug 22, 2009 | 03:43 PM
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Originally Posted by 98Z2885
The only complaint I have with the autos are they are weak when you really put the power behind them. I am very impressed with the response of my A4 car, especially with the 3.73's. I have driven standards muscle cars my whole life. Eventually you are going to have to go back auto anyways if you continue to put more and more power behind it. And then you have the none consistency issue. I learned to be real consistent with my stangs but its just a PITA when you are running nitrous and your car is pulling the wheels off the ground and walking the track. Id much rather have one less thing to do. and thats just my option
I have owned 2 with over 400 rwhp and cut 1.5 sixties on motor (one high 1.5s one low 1.5s both in the heat) and ZERO problems.. i dont see many stock m6s doing that and lasting for anything..

anything 5-600hp+ you need to beef the transmission up anyways..
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Old Aug 22, 2009 | 03:59 PM
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Thats just a simple way of knowing the uninformed car guys from the informed ones .
lol thats true. The last guy who told me "too bad its an auto" was a guy who didnt even have a car, he had a bicycle (not a motorcycle)
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Old Aug 22, 2009 | 04:31 PM
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Weve had 2 6 speeds (My wifes current car is 1 of them) and i dont doubt A4s.. sure, the stock stall/trans cars dont seem too impressive, but once its stalled, with a shift kit, and/or gears its a whole different animal. My car is cammed, full bolt ons, 4k stall, Performabuilt Level 2, and 3.73s and it holds its own even on the street.
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Old Aug 22, 2009 | 05:07 PM
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I don't know, I never had a problem with my 4L60... 6.81 100.24 1/8th 10.7x 128.62 1/4...1.49 60'... put over 75 runs on it...

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Old Aug 22, 2009 | 05:08 PM
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Originally Posted by lemons12
A4s are known for their ETs at the strip.. M6s are known for their trap speeds..

examples..

a4- 7.4@91mph
m6- 7.4@95mph

a4- 7.7@89mph
m6- 7.7@92mph

a4- 7.4@91mph
m6- 7.8@91mph

a4- 7.7@88mph
m6- 8.0@88mph

M6s arent as quick out of the hole but pull harder on the top end, this is another reason they are faster from a roll..
A4s are quicker out of the hole but dont pull as hard on the top end..

m6s for high traps or roll racing
a4s for quicker ets or real racing

hope that helps you understand a little better how A4s and M6s run at the track..
Ive seen a4's pull hard against m6's plenty thats what I wanted to do with mine. When I race m6's from a 40 on roll I usually right with them unless they have gears 3.90 4.10's and I didnt know if having a stall would worsen that or make it better...
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Old Aug 22, 2009 | 05:17 PM
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If you could adjust the shift points to those of what a m6 driver would shift at, then a a4 and m6 should be dead equal, mod for mod.. no?
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Old Aug 22, 2009 | 06:18 PM
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Originally Posted by pat-ls101
Ive seen a4's pull hard against m6's plenty thats what I wanted to do with mine. When I race m6's from a 40 on roll I usually right with them unless they have gears 3.90 4.10's and I didnt know if having a stall would worsen that or make it better...
Yes, A4s with more mods will help it trap more like an m6.. but mod for mod the m6 will out trap an a4.
Some stalls will help some will hurt.. You need to concentrate on the STR if you are wanting it to be more efficient up top..

Originally Posted by CHRRRIS
If you could adjust the shift points to those of what a m6 driver would shift at, then a a4 and m6 should be dead equal, mod for mod.. no?
No, mod for mod the m6 makes more power, meaning it will pull harder up top when less things are being taken into account. Gearing also plays a big role in this.


General rule... A4s et quicker and trap less, M6s et slower and trap more..
thats mod for mod and on average.. there is always the exceptions..
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Old Aug 22, 2009 | 07:10 PM
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[QUOTE=lemons12;12111536]Some stalls will help some will hurt.. You need to concentrate on the STR

Whats STR?
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Old Aug 22, 2009 | 07:18 PM
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Originally Posted by lemons12
m6s for high traps or roll racing
a4s for quicker ets or real racing

I like that. I may use that when comparing trannys. M6 for roll racing, A4 for real racing.
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Old Aug 22, 2009 | 07:38 PM
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Originally Posted by 98Z2885
The only complaint I have with the autos are they are weak when you really put the power behind them.
My car put down 643rwhp through an unlocked converter. This is the 3rd season for this transmission and I haven't dropped the pan since it's been in the car. I've never had any problems with it.
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Old Aug 22, 2009 | 07:39 PM
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Originally Posted by pat-ls101
Whats STR?
https://ls1tech.com/forums/automatic...questions.html

There is some good reading in there, more than just the STR.. The best research is research done on your own!

Originally Posted by JonCR96Z
I like that. I may use that when comparing trannys. M6 for roll racing, A4 for real racing.



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Old Aug 23, 2009 | 12:59 PM
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Originally Posted by lemons12
https://ls1tech.com/forums/automatic...questions.html

There is some good reading in there, more than just the STR.. The best research is research done on your own!






Quoted for truth!
Agreed, properly built a4 combo ftw, but ftl when driver involvement and fun-to-drive factor are taken into account. A stalled auto car is a blast, don't get me wrong, but being able to select your own gear is more enjoyable imho
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Old Aug 23, 2009 | 01:48 PM
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ya a4,s are more consistant and less chance for error.i love my 4l85e with tci stand alone dose same thing every run.has real good trap speed also.
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Old Aug 25, 2009 | 01:44 AM
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haha yes ive encountered this as well. its funny , people say.. his car is faster cause its a 6sp.... ohhh really lets go from a dig or better yet lets go to the TRACK!!! lol people dont understand at all...
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i love my a4 4000ss and 373
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Old Aug 26, 2009 | 07:25 AM
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I like it how peope come up to mine and ask how much power it has, i quote around 250rwkw, then they say 'ohh thats ****, my manual has over 300 ill easily beat u' then its funny as that u find out that they are still in the high 12's down the 1/4 while im close to the 11's haha.

ps, chicks love the sound of a high stall as its more old school :p
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Originally Posted by SIG-054
ps, chicks love the sound of a high stall as its more old school :p

yeah and they can give you roadhead if you don't have to row the gears
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