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Old 02-12-2012, 11:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Cam72aro
Things happen for a reason. It would have sucked to put it together and it not go into gear or be slipping. I am very lucky that mine works. Screw nitrous go procharger or turbo. I am considering selling my procharger eventually and going 91mm turbo. I guess I like working on this heap, lol.
Noooo! That Procharger is a huge reason why I'm such a fan of your car!
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Nitrous is only for a quick fix while I'm in school. One of my buddy's in our shop has a generic wet kit he said I could use. Then after school I'll be going f/I. I really like that modular turbo kit, or go with an f1a kit.
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Originally Posted by Cam72aro
You stomp it in 4th and it downshifts to 3rd and boost comes up and the car goes.
FYI, I would recommend putting the shifter in 3rd when your makin power. It brings on the over-run clutches to help out the overdrive roller clutch.
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Originally Posted by slow67
FYI, I would recommend putting the shifter in 3rd when your makin power. It brings on the over-run clutches to help out the overdrive roller clutch.
So are you saying drop it into 3rd, then shift into 4th? Or just run it in 3rd to redline- like you are running a TH400 w/ a 1:1 ratio.
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Originally Posted by slow67
FYI, I would recommend putting the shifter in 3rd when your makin power. It brings on the over-run clutches to help out the overdrive roller clutch.
Thanks for the advice. I have romped on it a few times with bringing the shifter down to 3rd and done it with the the shifter in 4th. I will quit stomping it in 4th now. It was only to about 5100 rpms and 10psi so it probably didnt hurt too much, hopefully.
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Originally Posted by eLiT3SnIpEz
Noooo! That Procharger is a huge reason why I'm such a fan of your car!
I like the procharger, but I think I am going to get annoyed with the whine at idle. Thanks for the flattering comments. . . I am worried about slipping the belt later on when it starts making more boost. I will give it a year or so and see what happens.
Old 02-13-2012, 08:27 AM
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Originally Posted by White.Lightning
So are you saying drop it into 3rd, then shift into 4th? Or just run it in 3rd to redline- like you are running a TH400 w/ a 1:1 ratio.
Like a th400 to redline (unless you need more speed than 3rd will give you, and know the risks).

Originally Posted by Cam72aro
Thanks for the advice. I have romped on it a few times with bringing the shifter down to 3rd and done it with the the shifter in 4th. I will quit stomping it in 4th now. It was only to about 5100 rpms and 10psi so it probably didnt hurt too much, hopefully.
If the car still drives normally in the D4 position, then you probably haven't hurt anything.
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Alright, ordered a MadMan 4l80e dipstick this morning. Did some researching and it seems that's the best option. It's just like the stocker and locks, without any of the filling problems that some people have with the lokar. It's cheaper too!

I also have a cooler lined up somewhat local (jacksonville) that I'll be buying from a member here shortly. It'll be a B&M stacked plate, and I'll be using his fittings from his old TH400 setup, and running my own hose.

That should pretty much do it with big purchases. Only thing really left is miscellaneous items like wiring, sheet metal for covering the hole, fluid, etc. Now I just need to find the time to get this thing rocking.
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Originally Posted by black00ssFL
Alright, ordered a MadMan 4l80e dipstick this morning. Did some researching and it seems that's the best option. It's just like the stocker and locks, without any of the filling problems that some people have with the lokar. It's cheaper too!
I'll have to see how yours works out
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Originally Posted by slow67

If the car still drives normally in the D4 position, then you probably haven't hurt anything.
Its does. I drove it a while in od after I made a fews pulls in it. Thanks for the help.

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So the Drum, gaskets and seals, and slip yoke came in the mail today. Since I had a little time I stopped by the shop to put back together the clutch assembly part of the direct drum. And since I was in a rush I forgot my camera, so I had to make due with my Iphone camera.

First off I removed the second seal on the center support as per instructions for the transbrake to complete the dual feed setup.

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Here's the nice, used drum. Complete with drain hold already drilled thanks to Elite!

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First up I reinstalled the piston. This was a little bit of a PITA to get seated right without the alignment tool, but I got it. I put a light coating of lube on it and fought it for about 15 minutes before I gave up and lubed it up pretty good. After that, it went on real easily, lol. So lesson learned, the more lube the easier it is!

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Then it's time for the handy clamps to compress the spring and install the snap ring.

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Then I installed the clutch pack. First I installed the bottom plate, which is slanted downwards towards the center of the drum. Then I put in the steel plates and clutches, starting with a steel plate. Then the top retaining steel plate and snap ring. When that was done, I added some fresh tranny fluid to soak in there.

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So pretty much all I'm waiting on is the 34 element sprag and then I can bolt this thing back together!
Old 02-13-2012, 08:21 PM
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looking good man, hope the build goes good. im gonna need to get the HP tuners from you in about a week, my LS1 swap is almost done...and i got that window ready for you!
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Originally Posted by armyinfantry3id
looking good man, hope the build goes good. im gonna need to get the HP tuners from you in about a week, my LS1 swap is almost done...and i got that window ready for you!
I was just thinking about that window an hour ago or so, lol. I was supposed to come get it last Thursday. I ended up hurting my shoulder at the gym and went to the Dr. Thursday and forgot all about it, I'll give ya a text tomorrow.
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hey its cool...im getting tires put on the "beater car" in the morning so weds. would be better, btw this window is on me!
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Haven't gotten a whole lot done the past couple of days. Still waiting on my 34 element sprag to come it. But, I did get some parts in the mail.

connector for the shifter

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Madman 4l80e dipstick

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Slip yoke

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And, a couple tranny coolers

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I ended up picking up both of these coolers and the fittings for $65 shipped. I figure to run them in a series and I won't have any cooling problems. Just need to pick up some 3/8 hose and I'll be good to go.

Then came the decision of what to do about the case and how to paint it. Well I won a little money after the Superbowl, so I figured I'll use that towards getting it powder coated. I dropped it off at the coaters today and will be getting it done in a semi gloss black. But before I did I went ahead and cut off the ears and anything else I figured might get in the way.

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Won't get the case back until mid next week, and hopefully the sprag will be in too. Then I'll be able to reassemble the tranny and start putting her in!
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Thanks for the updates and progress.

Details on the slip yoke? Dim from the end to the center of the u joint?

Thanks,
Mike
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Originally Posted by LongIsland63SS409
Thanks for the updates and progress.

Details on the slip yoke? Dim from the end to the center of the u joint?

Thanks,
Mike
7.9". Just a standard th400/1350 yoke. Since my transmission is splined all the way, I may be alright. I may have to cut it down, doubt it though.
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Originally Posted by black00ssFL





First up I reinstalled the piston. This was a little bit of a PITA to get seated right without the alignment tool, but I got it. I put a light coating of lube on it and fought it for about 15 minutes before I gave up and lubed it up pretty good. After that, it went on real easily, lol. So lesson learned, the more lube the easier it is!




I hope you used some type of lip seal installer tool to install the piston.
You can't just push the piston in, no matter how much lube. The seals must be worked into place so they don't get cut or rolled.

Be sure to air check it. Sit it on the center support, block one of the feed holes, and blow air in the opposite. Be sure the clutches apply and no air leaks are present.
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I just used a general lip seal tool that I got with the seals/gaskets I ordered. The manual shows a different tool and I figured that was some sort of alignment tool to line up the piston. I'll be sure to check it when I get the case back.
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Looks like some good progress!

-In regards to the trans coolers- I recommend the bar/plate one (black) over the tube/fin. There was a few threads about how the bar/plate cooler is superior. Also, add a small fan to it and you'll never have trans temp issues.
-The madman dipstick looks great! Mine should arrive Monday. Are you going to powder coat that as well?
-What part number is your slip yoke? I was looking at the Strange U1650 one.
-I might have missed this, but what shifter are you using? I was going to use a stock A4 shifter.


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