a4 + tc + gears
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a4 + tc + gears how should i combine these three mods? im assuming i should start of with the cam first, but how do u know what tc to use and/or gears? sorry for the ignorance but im coming from a m6 car. cam would be the f14.
im kinda confsued, is your car an auto or a manual?
if its a manual, id do cam, then TC and trans at the same time, leaving the gears alone
if its an auto car... if its 2.73 id change rear gears first, if 3.23 then deffinatly stall then trans then cam just my .02
if its a manual, id do cam, then TC and trans at the same time, leaving the gears alone
if its an auto car... if its 2.73 id change rear gears first, if 3.23 then deffinatly stall then trans then cam just my .02
Originally Posted by kbronSS
its a a4.....what i meant was that i used to have a m6, so thats why i said im coming from a m6 car and dont know jack about tc's and a4's.
i was thinking 3.73
i was thinking 3.73
You could do them first, they make a big difference all by themselves.
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I did the torque converter first (with transgo and cooler). I havent been unhappy.
Just keep future mods in mind when selecting converters. Even with my daily driver I wish I would have gone higher stall on the converter. If you plan on doing 3.73's go with a 3500 stall or higher, with a STR of around 2.5. You will need drag radials!!
Just keep future mods in mind when selecting converters. Even with my daily driver I wish I would have gone higher stall on the converter. If you plan on doing 3.73's go with a 3500 stall or higher, with a STR of around 2.5. You will need drag radials!!
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BOSS APPROVED! Do the TC and 3.73 gears. I did it at the same time. The only thing I should have done was going with a higher stall. I have a 3200. The wizards at MTI suggested that low stall. So go high on the TC.
TC and 3.73's. I got a SS4000 stall and 3.73's and it's THE best mod BY FAR yet, it'll take some getting used to with the slippage around town, but that's nothing. MAKE SURE YOU INSTALL A TRANSMISSION COOLER. It's a must. and rule of thumb, ALWAYS get 1 size bigger than you want, becuase people ALWAYS seem to get bigger on their stall converters.
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Originally Posted by tjswanson2001
Even if the car has 2.73 gears get a torque converter first.... and at least a 3600 stall, you'll love it. Stall converters "wake" the car up so much.
I have an F14, yank ss4000 and 3.73s. It feels sick when I floor it, I just hold on for my life and before I know it I'm going 90. Only complaint is I havn't figured out how to get my drag radials to hook. Before this set up I had the f14 with a vig 3800 and stock 3.23s. My best was 12.2 with that setup and now with the new stall and gears it feels much faster. I can't wait to go to the track and test it out. If I can get it to hook I'm thinking it should run around 11.8.
When choosing your cam and stall, make sure they will work well together. For example if you go with a large cam your going to need a high stall(4000up). One other word of advise, do some traction mods and don't even think about driving a stalled and cammed car without at least a drag radial. That is unless you like driving in the ditch.
When choosing your cam and stall, make sure they will work well together. For example if you go with a large cam your going to need a high stall(4000up). One other word of advise, do some traction mods and don't even think about driving a stalled and cammed car without at least a drag radial. That is unless you like driving in the ditch.
I get 19-20 mpg average and I drive it pretty hard at times. To be honest it takes off easier, so in the rain it would be safer as long as your not punching it. With a TC you need to bring rpms up for the car to move, it doesn't just all of a sudden hit. Here is a little rundown of the order I did my mods and results. Car is heavy with STB, Full diamond SFCs, boxed lca's, me 300 pounds and every option in 2002 even the RS ground fx.
1)Lid and Magnaflow catback-ran 13.54 best with optimum weather conditions on stock tires.
2)Added 3:42 gears-Ran a 13.25 on Dayton Daytona ZR street tires and good weather. Normal was 13.3's
3)Added 2600 SLP Stealth stall-ran a 13.15 and a couple 13.0's,but still could run street tires.
4)Added FLP LT Headers and after tune ran many 13.0's and a few what could have been 12.9's, but was during ET drags and I had to let off. Now I needed Nitto's to hook. I gained on the dyno right at 40 horsepower and didn't see much of a gain, have no idea why.
5)Removed 2600 stall and put in a Fuddle 3400 2.1 str stall and cooler, ran 12.696. This is with around a 3000 DA and hot out. With better conditions a 12.4-5 should be had. I've only had the stall in now for 3 times to track, so still learning. The 12.696 was launching easy at around 2,500 rpms and laying into it. 60' times went to 1.70-1.71. I am experiencing pwm and need a converter tune now, but happy otherwise.
1)Lid and Magnaflow catback-ran 13.54 best with optimum weather conditions on stock tires.
2)Added 3:42 gears-Ran a 13.25 on Dayton Daytona ZR street tires and good weather. Normal was 13.3's
3)Added 2600 SLP Stealth stall-ran a 13.15 and a couple 13.0's,but still could run street tires.
4)Added FLP LT Headers and after tune ran many 13.0's and a few what could have been 12.9's, but was during ET drags and I had to let off. Now I needed Nitto's to hook. I gained on the dyno right at 40 horsepower and didn't see much of a gain, have no idea why.
5)Removed 2600 stall and put in a Fuddle 3400 2.1 str stall and cooler, ran 12.696. This is with around a 3000 DA and hot out. With better conditions a 12.4-5 should be had. I've only had the stall in now for 3 times to track, so still learning. The 12.696 was launching easy at around 2,500 rpms and laying into it. 60' times went to 1.70-1.71. I am experiencing pwm and need a converter tune now, but happy otherwise.
Originally Posted by adamp
TC and 3.73's. I got a SS4000 stall and 3.73's and it's THE best mod BY FAR yet, it'll take some getting used to with the slippage around town, but that's nothing. MAKE SURE YOU INSTALL A TRANSMISSION COOLER. It's a must. and rule of thumb, ALWAYS get 1 size bigger than you want, becuase people ALWAYS seem to get bigger on their stall converters.
But, thumbs up to your wheels since you changed them to black, they look great.