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Old Apr 28, 2006 | 08:58 AM
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I see a lot of you guys hesitant on buying high stall converters. I've seen people post in here that they wouldnt go higher than a 2800 stall. Whats that? What ET/mph do you expect to gain over stock? Then theres the guys w/ h/c packages that wont go over a 3500 stall. You guys are killing your ET. I think its funny when some of you post your ET/mph and are dissapointed. Maybe it has something to do with that tight converter you have . I put a SS4000 in my completely stock car (w/ 3.73's). Never had any issues on the street or with gas milage. If you guys dont want a quick car, go buy a honda. Its saddening to see 400rwhp cars going 12.00 @ 115mph, when I went 12.10 @ 111 on a completely stock motor/suspension.
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Old Apr 28, 2006 | 09:14 AM
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I dont think everyone tries to build a race car. There's nothing wrong with having a tight converter on the streets
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Old Apr 28, 2006 | 09:17 AM
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Because, just like buying a cam, most people don't know what to expect. I had never ridden in a higher than factory staled car before I added my TC. I was jumping in without checking the water first. I'm happy with the results, dropped .5 seconds in the 1/4 without tuning (and I need tuned).
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Old Apr 28, 2006 | 09:18 AM
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I dont think everyone tries to build a race car. There's nothing wrong with having a tight converter on the streets
Read it again, its obvious you didnt understand it.

What I was saying is, most people throw in a tight converter then complain about their slow ET despite their high hp/tq numbers.
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Old Apr 28, 2006 | 09:18 AM
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Most people I run into think a 4000 isnt streetable, with lockup its just like driving a stock car, most people think my 3800 is alot smaller than it is until I get on it, and also find it hard to believe the mpg I get with it !
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Old Apr 28, 2006 | 09:20 AM
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Originally Posted by ls1mongrel
Most people I run into think a 4000 isnt streetable, with lockup its just like driving a stock car, most people think my 3800 is alot smaller than it is until I get on it, and also find it hard to believe the mpg I get with it !
Whenever I'd tell people I had a 4000 stall in my car they'd sh*t their pants. Then they'd faint went I'd tell them I only spend about $15 a week on gas =P But then again, I dont hot rod my car on the street.
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Old Apr 28, 2006 | 09:23 AM
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i would actually like to have a bigger conver for racing but i dont like low speed driving with it. some ppl say they cant feel the difference but i sure as hell can. maybe if i could make it lock up in 2nd gear or something, it would be different but as is i have to wait till at least 35mph in 3rd to lock up and it sucks sounding like im trying to race people when im really just trying to pace grandma in front of me who takes a full minute to reach 35mph
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Old Apr 28, 2006 | 09:25 AM
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i would actually like to have a bigger conver for racing but i dont like low speed driving with it. some ppl say they cant feel the difference but i sure as hell can. maybe if i could make it lock up in 2nd gear or something, it would be different but as is i have to wait till at least 35mph in 3rd to lock up and it sucks sounding like im trying to race people when im really just trying to pace grandma in front of me who takes a full minute to reach 35mph
Set up a manual lock up switch then.
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Old Apr 28, 2006 | 09:26 AM
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wow that was a quick response.
anyway, ive been tol you cant do that on a 4L60E unless you program it into the computer, which i dont have acess to.
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Old Apr 28, 2006 | 09:30 AM
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Originally Posted by BigPlanTransAm
wow that was a quick response.
anyway, ive been tol you cant do that on a 4L60E unless you program it into the computer, which i dont have acess to.
lol, I've got nothing but time on my hands right now.

Dont quote me on this but I think you can put a 4L60E on a manual switch. I THINK
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Old Apr 28, 2006 | 01:45 PM
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Originally Posted by NICKZ28
lol, I've got nothing but time on my hands right now.

Dont quote me on this but I think you can put a 4L60E on a manual switch. I THINK

You can put a manual switch on it. Just be sure you release it when you are stopping.

As far as the big converter goes….. I have a TCI 4000 stall with 3.73 gears in my car and I truly hate to drive it on the street but it is great at the track. If my car were a daily driver I would have a 3200-3500 stall in it.

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Old Apr 28, 2006 | 04:14 PM
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JNorris, do you know where i could find a wiring diagram for a manual lockup switch? **** ill go to a 4200 if i can manually lock up.
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Old Apr 28, 2006 | 09:46 PM
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Originally Posted by BigPlanTransAm
JNorris, do you know where i could find a wiring diagram for a manual lockup switch? **** ill go to a 4200 if i can manually lock up.
You can find it in a GM service manual but you can have your PCM programmed to lock the converter at whatever speed and throttle position you would like it to lock-up at.

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Old Apr 28, 2006 | 10:57 PM
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I agree, small converters are no fun. Hell I can drive mine around town all day without it getting annoying, so I don't see how people can find a 4k+ stalled 4l60 to be hard to do. I don't daily drive it since I have another car for that, but if I had to I would
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Old Apr 29, 2006 | 12:02 AM
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ive been driving a 4300 stall no lockup with only 3 gears on the street and highway (in downtown chicago) for over a year... then again my car is nothing like yours... i need a high stall just to make the car move

and i was going 11.27 @ 123 with only 427rwhp
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Old Apr 29, 2006 | 12:23 AM
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im not scared.....my wallet is
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Old Apr 29, 2006 | 12:30 AM
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I have a 3200, but on spray its 3800 and thats fine for me!
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Old Apr 29, 2006 | 01:26 AM
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My fiance drove my car the other day for the first time, after driving a rinky-dink 95 Saturn SL1 for years, and said that it wasn't as bad as she thought it'd be.

I think that everyone should drive a well-tuned 4000 stall car before making up their minds. Mine is perfectly streetable. I won't go so far as to say that I don't notice the stall, but you adapt quickly, and I now prefer the 4000 by far to the stock stall. I don't even think about keeping it in D until 30 anymore, I'm just so used to it that I do it automatically.

If I listened to everybody's opinions on this forum, I wouldn't be near as far in my goals for ET's as I am. I just do my own research, find out what I think I will like, and then make my own, informed decision.

I damn sure don't let what people on some internet forum tell me what's unstreetable and what's streetable. If I did that, my car would be a garage queen, instead of a daily driver.

I challenge anybody in the area to come and drive my car, then tell me that it's unstreetable.
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Old Apr 29, 2006 | 08:26 AM
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Originally Posted by NICKZ28
Whenever I'd tell people I had a 4000 stall in my car they'd sh*t their pants. Then they'd faint went I'd tell them I only spend about $15 a week on gas =P But then again, I dont hot rod my car on the street.
Got an SS3600 in the Vette'. I was amused at the $15.00 a week. My daily driver is a V10 Super Duty. All the converters in the world wont help me and my $50.00 every third day..........

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Old Apr 29, 2006 | 10:16 AM
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I daily drive a non lock up 5100 stall and don't mind it AT ALL.
when leaving a light "normal speed like" it only revs to about 2000 rpm's. if i wanna be the first across the intersection i rev to about 2500 rpm's.
It is NOWHERE near as bad as people think.
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