well my fuddle lasted about 2k miles or so and then it broke. so i was getting a vig put in and had him look at my pump and it was shot. there was metal all through my tranny fluid. it was bad. so now $1200 later i will be getting a new pump,converter,and band because of a fuddle converter

 

still glad that I have a Yank. sorry to hear that

 

i would call howard's converters in UT - they will atleast honor a warranty for the unit.

 

yea i talked to him...seems like a nice guy..he told me to send it back and he will give me a refund

 

Wow, that doesn't sound too promising. I was going to go with a Fuddle/Howard converter. Guess I may be looking elsewhere.

 

some like them some dont...i obviously dont...but you make talk to someone else who will love thiers

 

are you positive it wasnt the tranny that let go.
what "broke" ?
good luck.

 

no not the tranny..first the converter grinded ever since i put it in when it locked up...then it quit locking up...there was metal all throughout my tranny fluid...ruined my pump the tranny is ok luckly

 

that sucks to hear. when i first purchased my vig some 4 years ago i had the option of going with a midwest (popularized by a sponsor that is no longer around). sure i would of saved a couple hundred but i was skeptical of it. glad i didnt, they went under, along with another smaller company (i believe it was TCS) that guys were raving about that was also a sponsor. then fuddle, another small company. guys would bash me for recommending they stick with a vig or a yank. they're not about to close up shop. my vig has outlasted two transmissions and has 33k miles on it. runs as great as the day it was installed.

in case you can't tell, im a big fan of Precision Industries.

 

im sure i will be a big fan of them too...at least i hope

 

didn't fuddle shut down? i tryed to order from them for a month straight m-f i called everyday and couldn't get ahold of anyone and gave up

 

my fuddle converter has ~10k on it, with at least 50 track passes. the full weight car 60s low-mid 1.6 with just lcas, sfcs, and !frontswaybar. runs consistent 12.2x at the track, and still maintains 24+ mpg on the road.

there is nothing wrong with fuddle converters. should what happened to your car be the converter's fault, it is a rare occurance and could happen to any converter. your warranty is being honored with no problems, so why the shitty thread title?

 

that sucks to hear. when i first purchased my vig some 4 years ago i had the option of going with a midwest (popularized by a sponsor that is no longer around). sure i would of saved a couple hundred but i was skeptical of it. glad i didnt, they went under, along with another smaller company (i believe it was TCS) that guys were raving about that was also a sponsor. then fuddle, another small company. guys would bash me for recommending they stick with a vig or a yank. they're not about to close up shop. my vig has outlasted two transmissions and has 33k miles on it. runs as great as the day it was installed.

in case you can't tell, im a big fan of Precision Industries.

 

So far so good.. I put my stage IV tranny in along with my 4K verter from fuddle and went straight to the track! Laid down a 1.56, 1.54 & 1.60 60's and went home..

 

4K miles on my Fuddle TC. Keeping my fingers crossed. Were you running a trans cooler? Which model torque converter did you purchase?

 

becasue a lot of people have trouble with them...and customer service is the worst...my warranty is not being honored by fuddle, it is being honored by the company that actually builds the converter, why? because fuddle is nowhere to be heard! my opinion is to stay away from them, i am entitled to that. it pissses me off that this converter is costing me more money. like i said in the first place some will like them and some wont, they are hit and miss coverters. why buy a converter that is hit and miss when you can buy a good one that you know will work?

yes i did have a trans cooler.

 

when john cameron was able to do business, he did business very well. i don't know the story on what has been happening lately, but his previous customer service is unmatched, in my opinion.

 

Why did you dirve it around for 2K miles with it grinding away like that? Any converter will grind if its being made to lockup where it can't hold. This stems from a number of things, some tranny related, others tune related, and of course, a faulty converter. Basically, a small LU plate shouldnt lockup at anything less than around 43-45MPH in 4th gear.

The grinding noise you heard was the converter telling you "hey, I cant handle this, do domething before I break...". Same happens with ANY converter. They will ALL grind if given the wrong TCC lockup points, too little line pressure etc.. and a poor pressure profile in the TCC PWM program.

Some trannies seem to deliver better LU presuures than others, thank GM engineers for delivering us a not-so-quality-controlled transmission. If you listen to these noises, and do something about them, you can save yourself a lot of money and trouble. You would do the same for your engine...

Grinding converters come straight out in my books, before they break something. Either that, or get it tuned, if its not already tuned for a smaller LU plate/hi-stall.

I don't know if your tranny was tuned for the gearing and converter, but a hi-stall will not cope with stock shift lockup points.

Was it a HP series or the el-cheapo Performance series? HP series have awesome LU plates and I have never had a problem with them.

 

Excellent description. Should be edited and made a sticky.

 

if somebody would like to lock this thread please do...i obviously can not voice my opinion without being a litttle bitch to some people.