Would a Converter Increase my Highway?
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by RamAir02TA:
<strong> Hey im just wondering would a converter increase my highway power like from a roll thanks... </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">A "true" 3500 stall converter would help out some from a highway roll(especially if you have some 3.73 gears) while a 4000+ verter combined with some 3.73's would definitely make your car an animal from a high-speed roll. Anything less than what I've mentioned won't really help(only around town).
But...keep in mind, do you want to give up some in-town comfort/drivability for highway punches? 3500+ stalls will be very loose driving around until they lock up. Besides, torque converters were meant for a stop. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />
Mike
<strong> Hey im just wondering would a converter increase my highway power like from a roll thanks... </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">A "true" 3500 stall converter would help out some from a highway roll(especially if you have some 3.73 gears) while a 4000+ verter combined with some 3.73's would definitely make your car an animal from a high-speed roll. Anything less than what I've mentioned won't really help(only around town).
But...keep in mind, do you want to give up some in-town comfort/drivability for highway punches? 3500+ stalls will be very loose driving around until they lock up. Besides, torque converters were meant for a stop. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />
Mike
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by 2000LS1Z28:
<strong> 3500+ stalls will be very loose driving around until they lock up. Besides, torque converters were meant for a stop. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />
Mike </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I don't find 3500 to be loose at all...even with 3.23 gears. I didn't even consider it to be loose the first day I drove it...all in your perception I guess. Everyone is different.
I have to disagree with the "meant for a stop" comment. The benifit of higher shift extension from a roll (or stop) is huge; of course considering you have a decent sized stall <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />
Mike, you'd be surprised the fits I give similarly modded M6s from a roll at the right speeds. <img border="0" alt="[evil]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_devil.gif" /> Espically if they aren't very good drivers... <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />
<strong> 3500+ stalls will be very loose driving around until they lock up. Besides, torque converters were meant for a stop. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />
Mike </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I don't find 3500 to be loose at all...even with 3.23 gears. I didn't even consider it to be loose the first day I drove it...all in your perception I guess. Everyone is different.
I have to disagree with the "meant for a stop" comment. The benifit of higher shift extension from a roll (or stop) is huge; of course considering you have a decent sized stall <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />
Mike, you'd be surprised the fits I give similarly modded M6s from a roll at the right speeds. <img border="0" alt="[evil]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_devil.gif" /> Espically if they aren't very good drivers... <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by RPM WS6:
<strong> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by 2000LS1Z28:
<strong> 3500+ stalls will be very loose driving around until they lock up. Besides, torque converters were meant for a stop. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />
Mike </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I don't find 3500 to be loose at all...even with 3.23 gears. I didn't even consider it to be loose the first day I drove it...all in your perception I guess. Everyone is different.
I have to disagree with the "meant for a stop" comment. The benifit of higher shift extension from a roll (or stop) is huge; of course considering you have a decent sized stall <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />
Mike, you'd be surprised the fits I give similarly modded M6s from a roll at the right speeds. <img border="0" alt="[evil]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_devil.gif" /> Espically if they aren't very good drivers... <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Looseness = individual percerption IMHO. Everyone's different like you said. I personally felt like the Vig 2800(true 3200) was more than enough with 3.23's. But then again, I just don't enjoy driving around convertered autos.
And yes your right, converters can be useful at many different speeds(depending upon what you have). General consensus though is that aftermarket torque converters are primarily bought for their low-end "holeshot" advantage(at least thats why I would buy one).
Dude, maybe you should try me! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Razz]" src="gr_images/icons/tongue.gif" /> J/K! I'm getting better though. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Cool]" src="gr_images/icons/cool.gif" /> So am I ever going to get that ride in your WS6???
<strong> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by 2000LS1Z28:
<strong> 3500+ stalls will be very loose driving around until they lock up. Besides, torque converters were meant for a stop. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />
Mike </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I don't find 3500 to be loose at all...even with 3.23 gears. I didn't even consider it to be loose the first day I drove it...all in your perception I guess. Everyone is different.
I have to disagree with the "meant for a stop" comment. The benifit of higher shift extension from a roll (or stop) is huge; of course considering you have a decent sized stall <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />
Mike, you'd be surprised the fits I give similarly modded M6s from a roll at the right speeds. <img border="0" alt="[evil]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_devil.gif" /> Espically if they aren't very good drivers... <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Looseness = individual percerption IMHO. Everyone's different like you said. I personally felt like the Vig 2800(true 3200) was more than enough with 3.23's. But then again, I just don't enjoy driving around convertered autos.
And yes your right, converters can be useful at many different speeds(depending upon what you have). General consensus though is that aftermarket torque converters are primarily bought for their low-end "holeshot" advantage(at least thats why I would buy one).
Dude, maybe you should try me! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Razz]" src="gr_images/icons/tongue.gif" /> J/K! I'm getting better though. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Cool]" src="gr_images/icons/cool.gif" /> So am I ever going to get that ride in your WS6???
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A good converter is VERY beneficial from a roll. They get rid of the dead spot between gears and insure that you're never caught "between gears."
If I were to pick from a nice camshaft or a 4400 stall in a rolling race I'd take the converter hands down. The cam/stock converter car would absolutely get KILLED.
If I were to pick from a nice camshaft or a 4400 stall in a rolling race I'd take the converter hands down. The cam/stock converter car would absolutely get KILLED.
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Mike you are right...everyone has a different opinion on what's "too loose" for street driving. Actually, I personally think even 4000 is fine on the street <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />
My car should be out again in April as usual. We can line 'em up if you want...roll or dig your call... <img border="0" alt="[jester]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_jest.gif" /> J/K!! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" /> I'd like to see your new car too this summer <img border="0" title="" alt="[Cool]" src="gr_images/icons/cool.gif" />
My car should be out again in April as usual. We can line 'em up if you want...roll or dig your call... <img border="0" alt="[jester]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_jest.gif" /> J/K!! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" /> I'd like to see your new car too this summer <img border="0" title="" alt="[Cool]" src="gr_images/icons/cool.gif" />
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by RPM WS6:
<strong> Mike you are right...everyone has a different opinion on what's "too loose" for street driving. Actually, I personally think even 4000 is fine on the street <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />
My car should be out again in April as usual. We can line 'em up if you want...roll or dig your call... <img border="0" alt="[jester]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_jest.gif" /> J/K!! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" /> I'd like to see your new car too this summer <img border="0" title="" alt="[Cool]" src="gr_images/icons/cool.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Deal(but that's after I get my cam)! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" /> Got to graduate college first though. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="images/icons/rolleyes.gif" /> And you bet, I WILL come out to Photo's again this spring/summer with my Z(comes out of storage at the end of March). Look forward to "finally" seeing your T/A too. Only a few more months of this crap. <img border="0" alt="[cry]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_cry.gif" />
And to the original poster of this thread, sorry. Not trying to deter it. The best advice anyone could give you is that you should go find others locally(and there will be) in your area who have upgraded converters and ride/drive in them to see what'll be best for your LS1.
Mike
<strong> Mike you are right...everyone has a different opinion on what's "too loose" for street driving. Actually, I personally think even 4000 is fine on the street <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />
My car should be out again in April as usual. We can line 'em up if you want...roll or dig your call... <img border="0" alt="[jester]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_jest.gif" /> J/K!! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" /> I'd like to see your new car too this summer <img border="0" title="" alt="[Cool]" src="gr_images/icons/cool.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Deal(but that's after I get my cam)! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" /> Got to graduate college first though. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="images/icons/rolleyes.gif" /> And you bet, I WILL come out to Photo's again this spring/summer with my Z(comes out of storage at the end of March). Look forward to "finally" seeing your T/A too. Only a few more months of this crap. <img border="0" alt="[cry]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_cry.gif" />
And to the original poster of this thread, sorry. Not trying to deter it. The best advice anyone could give you is that you should go find others locally(and there will be) in your area who have upgraded converters and ride/drive in them to see what'll be best for your LS1.
Mike





