VIPER ACR> ZR1 > GT-R at the ring
02-18-2009, 07:00 PM
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GM said that engine is pretty much on the edge, untill someone puts in a A/W IC or finds a way to put a larger IC in it I am pretty sure its limited to exhaust/CAI, cam, heads. They even said there was not a lot more you can do with the tune and if you did you would really be pushing it with the engine.
02-21-2009, 04:57 PM
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I'm sorry I made this thread lol. I love Corvettes I really do, but I'd take the Viper for exclusiveness. Corvette's are common in Kentucky
Common meter:
Mustang V6 > Eclipse > Mustang GT > Camaro any > 350Z > Corvette > Cobra stang > Viper being the rarest.
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Mustang V6 > Eclipse > Mustang GT > Camaro any > 350Z > Corvette > Cobra stang > Viper being the rarest.
02-21-2009, 09:44 PM
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And like I said it still beat it.
02-22-2009, 11:23 AM
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No, like the Srt engineers said the card could've gotten faster if it wasn't for the bad headwind and also the drive only drove it for like 3 hours and the car wasnt even build for the nurburgring...I want to see some real times in normal tracks where the ACR gears are most good at.
And like I said it still beat it.
And like I said it still beat it.
Change this, if this was this, and this and that. Same could be said for the ZR1.
02-22-2009, 11:40 AM
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Im with this guy, I aint loosing no sleep over it. Give me either one and i would pimp that bitch
This thread is an argument over at least two cars anyone of us would jump at given the chance to own. We're not arguing over a mustang vs. camaro here, these are two badass, full tilt, ultimate American driving machines. So the ACR is a hair quicker than the zr1, oh well, not going to make me lose sleep.
02-22-2009, 03:05 PM
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I guess the same could've been said for the Zr1 but it wasn't because it was probably as close to as full potential as it was going to get in that track.The ACR on the other hand had some more potential according to the SRT engineers.
Of course maybe they were lying but in the end of the day the ACR>Zr1 at the track where the Zr1 was built for
Sorry but the ACR could still improve its lap time by some 2 seconds.
I wonder what will happen in a smaller track.
02-22-2009, 04:10 PM
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First - GM never said that the ZR1 was near it's limits. It's not in any way. Just like every damn performance car GM has released, there's plenty of room to improve. I have no doubt that the ACR could be taken even further also.
Second - Both these cars are on the same team folks. They're all fighting for our side. So let's stop arguing about which one is better when all the evidence we have shows that they are virtually a dead heat. One may be capable of more than the other, but what's the point in arguing about this until either GM or Dodge runs their car again at the Ring and raises the bar? You can't possibly have anything more than speculation and rumors at this time.
Personally, though i'd take the ZR1 in this contest, i'm quite content to have the Viper right up there with it in the standings, this way we'll have two cars ensuring that the title remains in our hands even after the GTR V-spec gets a run.
Second - Both these cars are on the same team folks. They're all fighting for our side. So let's stop arguing about which one is better when all the evidence we have shows that they are virtually a dead heat. One may be capable of more than the other, but what's the point in arguing about this until either GM or Dodge runs their car again at the Ring and raises the bar? You can't possibly have anything more than speculation and rumors at this time.
Personally, though i'd take the ZR1 in this contest, i'm quite content to have the Viper right up there with it in the standings, this way we'll have two cars ensuring that the title remains in our hands even after the GTR V-spec gets a run.
02-22-2009, 06:32 PM
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Is this coming from the guy who said the next lap "could've" been the whole opposite?
I guess the same could've been said for the Zr1 but it wasn't because it was probably as close to as full potential as it was going to get in that track.The ACR on the other hand had some more potential according to the SRT engineers.
Of course maybe they were lying but in the end of the day the ACR>Zr1 at the track where the Zr1 was built for
Sorry but the ACR could still improve its lap time by some 2 seconds.
I wonder what will happen in a smaller track.
I guess the same could've been said for the Zr1 but it wasn't because it was probably as close to as full potential as it was going to get in that track.The ACR on the other hand had some more potential according to the SRT engineers.
Of course maybe they were lying but in the end of the day the ACR>Zr1 at the track where the Zr1 was built for
Sorry but the ACR could still improve its lap time by some 2 seconds.
I wonder what will happen in a smaller track.
And then you say the SRT engineers said the Viper had more in it, wow, what a surprising thing to say!
Let's put the SRT's wing and spiltter etc on the ZR1 and see what happens then?
Furthemore the SRT is a track day car, not a daily driver. The ZR1 could be driven daily without a harsh ride like the SRT has and worrying about ripping the front splitter off....
The ZR1 already has beat the Viper on Buttonwillow and on the drag strip....
Nothing against the Viper, just stating my opinion and facts.
It's the GT-R I hate LOL.
02-22-2009, 08:08 PM
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02-22-2009, 09:00 PM
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I wouldn't be all that surprised if we never hear Nissan make a time claim this time around. They don't really seem all that interested in competing with the ZR1 and ACR...they've priced the V-spec well out of that league. 7:22 is going to be damn hard to hit, and I don't know if it's going to be worth it to Nissan to chase that mark with this car. There are much more useful things to be done with that money, especially for a company that could use a little help in the overall sales area.
I'm not saying I that I think they won't do it...I just think that maybe assuming that they automatically will is not the smart thing to do. They could decide that they're never going to hit that mark...OR even if they believe they can, they may decide it's unnecessary or not worth it, after the GTR fiasco of last year.
I'm not saying I that I think they won't do it...I just think that maybe assuming that they automatically will is not the smart thing to do. They could decide that they're never going to hit that mark...OR even if they believe they can, they may decide it's unnecessary or not worth it, after the GTR fiasco of last year.
02-22-2009, 11:59 PM
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Where do you get you info? The ZR1 was not "built" for the 'Ring.
And then you say the SRT engineers said the Viper had more in it, wow, what a surprising thing to say!
Let's put the SRT's wing and spiltter etc on the ZR1 and see what happens then?
Furthemore the SRT is a track day car, not a daily driver. The ZR1 could be driven daily without a harsh ride like the SRT has and worrying about ripping the front splitter off....
And then you say the SRT engineers said the Viper had more in it, wow, what a surprising thing to say!
Let's put the SRT's wing and spiltter etc on the ZR1 and see what happens then?
Furthemore the SRT is a track day car, not a daily driver. The ZR1 could be driven daily without a harsh ride like the SRT has and worrying about ripping the front splitter off....
Let's put a wing and splitter etc on the ZR1 and see what happens?? thats the dumbest argument I've ever heard... the ACR comes with those things.... I guess I should respond by saying 'well lets put a supercharger on the viper and see what happens'... dumb ricer logic. Everyone knows the viper is a track car and the ZR1 is designed for generally all driving, and if GM wants to come out with an all-out race vette they are certainly welcome too.
Sounds like you shouldn't be the one calling other people fanboys since you defend the ZR1 with all your will when anyone makes any response about it