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Old 02-09-2009, 10:51 AM
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http://www.motortrend.com/features/p...ord/index.html

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/N%C3%BC...imes#Lap_times

Chrysler conducted test,[1] Motor Trend confirmed, Hardcore Package option, non-stock race seat with a six-point harness, suspension adjustments,[2] aero adjustments, video confirmed

They had to modify it.
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Originally Posted by pitbull14218
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/N%C3%BC...imes#Lap_times

Chrysler conducted test,[1] Motor Trend confirmed, Hardcore Package option, non-stock race seat with a six-point harness, suspension adjustments,[2] aero adjustments, video confirmed

They had to modify it.
They 'tweaked' the suspension and aero components (did not modify them as they are tunable from the factory). The only thing that they modded is the seat that I can tell
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This is old news, also pretty expected of the three cars in question.
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The ACR is basiclly a track day car. The ZR1 could be driven daily. Do some of those mods to the ZR1 and see what happens.
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I need some peoples apologies because they said is was un modified. I like the 7:22.4 un confirmed ZR1 time. Hmmmmmm
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why can't we all just be happy that despite the current auto mess, the two top cars are american?? the vipers awesome and the zr1 rocks! so no more whimpering and crying about which one gets your groceries better, they're both top notch supercars that happen to be american made
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No ****. It would be a toss up between the two cars for me. The ACR makes more power, and has plenty left on the table with bolt ons.

Both are bad ***. LMAO at the Back to the Future repost.
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The GT-R still sucks.
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Love that Back To The Future reference.
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Originally Posted by pitbull14218
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/N%C3%BC...imes#Lap_times

Chrysler conducted test,[1] Motor Trend confirmed, Hardcore Package option, non-stock race seat with a six-point harness, suspension adjustments,[2] aero adjustments, video confirmed

They had to modify it.
The Zr1 had a racing seat as well and a roll cage because the track is so dangerous.

and the car is tunable.

Also the Driver only drove it for like 4 hours and I believe their was alot of head wind.The driver does drive in the nurburgring alot allthough but I believe the engineeres said it could probably get 7:20 down.

Also the gears on the ACR suck for long tracks like the nurburgring and it still did great unlike the Zr1 which was pretty much build with the nurburgring time in mind.
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seen one of those in rockwall last week.
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ACR had a professional driver. Couldn't take chances of losing
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Originally Posted by SSNISTR
The ACR is basiclly a track day car. The ZR1 could be driven daily. Do some of those mods to the ZR1 and see what happens.
I have heard of at least one guy that flew out to pick up his ACR and drove it home cross country....
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Originally Posted by JUICED96Z
I have heard of at least one guy that flew out to pick up his ACR and drove it home cross country....
I don't think he meant completely incapable of being daily driven. Over all though, the ZR1 is supposed to be much more tame than the ACR, and even the Z06. Thats why whenever you see them testing one they are always amazed at how subtle it seems till you put the throttle down. ZR1 is still better
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Originally Posted by KW4life06
I don't think he meant completely incapable of being daily driven. Over all though, the ZR1 is supposed to be much more tame than the ACR, and even the Z06. Thats why whenever you see them testing one they are always amazed at how subtle it seems till you put the throttle down. ZR1 is still better
But from what he said one would assume he means its not a daily driver....


A daily driver is defined by what someone is willing to put up with.....
When my 83 was together the guy that built it pretty much drove it all the time (built BBC car) and the vast majority of the people have have seen in on the road would say its not a daily driver...


If I was going to spend that kind of money on a car I would get a Ferrari or an older 6 second pro stock car or something hahaha.
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Originally Posted by ChaseSS
why can't we all just be happy that despite the current auto mess, the two top cars are american?? the vipers awesome and the zr1 rocks! so no more whimpering and crying about which one gets your groceries better, they're both top notch supercars that happen to be american made
Actually, two Radicals and a Donkervoort are in the top three slots at the nurburgring for stock production car time. Dodge is fourth but radicals and donkervoorts are as close as you get to street legal production race cars.
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Radicals AREN'T street legal.

I know, because my old boss raced one in the One Lap of America. We had to fiberglass a cockpit for it, and meet DOT criteria in a number of areas. Then we had to TRAILER the car to Concord, NH. Where it had to be inspected by the State. It was a narrow stretch to achieve, and might not even be doable today.

Laws are changing fast, and things are getting restrictive even in NH!

Regardless, with 210HP and approx. 1200 lbs it was a blast on the street. Far from street legal though initially.
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Originally Posted by BAD *** TA WS6
Radicals AREN'T street legal.

I know, because my old boss raced one in the One Lap of America. We had to fiberglass a cockpit for it, and meet DOT criteria in a number of areas. Then we had to TRAILER the car to Concord, NH. Where it had to be inspected by the State. It was a narrow stretch to achieve, and might not even be doable today.

Laws are changing fast, and things are getting restrictive even in NH!

Regardless, with 210HP and approx. 1200 lbs it was a blast on the street. Far from street legal though initially.
Regardless of whether it is street legal in your state or even in the US, the Radical SR8 is on record as being the fastest legal stock production car around Nordschleife. Just because it MIGHT be illegal over here doesn't mean it's illegal in Europe or Germany... Where the Nurburgring is obviously.


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