Edmunds Full-Test - Hyundai Genesis Coupe, Korea's Camaro and Mustang Competitor
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#24
The 4cyl turbo Genesis starts at $22k and will arguably be a better performance bargain than the V6 model as far as modability is concerned. The V6 Genesis starts at $25k, and definitely has more in it than a 14.5. The 98mph trapspeed should tell you that. And remember, this is tested by Edmund's. So like I said, this car is going to throw an interesting 4th option in the new ponycar wars.
I'm going to have to say the higher displacement DI motor is going to have much more potential than a little turbo 4.
GM motors>>>>hyundai motors.
#25
I'm curious what the weight difference will be between the turbo 4 banger and the v6 because I'm more interested in the potential of the turbo 4 cylinder.
Now that's interesting because where you see no potential I see a boost controller, possibly some fuel mods, and maybe a more efficient intercooler depending on what's offered stock. Maybe a bigger downpipe, 3" exhuast, and if that get's old, maybe some race gas on track days and another few turns of the boost controller.
Have to wonder what your opinion is of dsm's and evo's, sti's, srt's, etc? You believe n/a v6's have more potential?
Now that's interesting because where you see no potential I see a boost controller, possibly some fuel mods, and maybe a more efficient intercooler depending on what's offered stock. Maybe a bigger downpipe, 3" exhuast, and if that get's old, maybe some race gas on track days and another few turns of the boost controller.
Have to wonder what your opinion is of dsm's and evo's, sti's, srt's, etc? You believe n/a v6's have more potential?
Last edited by jimmy169; 02-27-2009 at 02:36 PM.
#26
Exactly, I meant more interesting competition for the v8's like a stock auto srt-8 challenger. Although I really don't like magazine test time's, I think it's prob around there though.
#27
Now that's interesting because where you see no potential I see a boost controller, possibly some fuel mods, and maybe a more efficient intercooler depending on what's offered stock. Maybe a bigger downpipe, 3" exhuast, and if that get's old, maybe some race gas on track days and another few turns of the boost controller.
Have to wonder what your opinion is of dsm's and evo's, sti's, srt's, etc? You believe n/a v6's have more potential?
#28
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TwNzbcEXudE (no nitrous.)
Man that's weard, i mean it's just a little turbo 4 cylinder, maybe the hyundai will also have similar architecture.
Last edited by jimmy169; 02-27-2009 at 04:10 PM.
#29
At our test track, the 2010 Hyundai Genesis Coupe 3.8 Track hits 60 mph in 6.4 seconds (or 6.1 seconds with 1 foot of rollout as on a drag strip) and goes through the quarter-mile in 14.5 seconds at 97.9 mph.
It's nothing short of epic. Truly something special.
So the Genesis does at 30k what the new Camaro can do at 22k? Sounds like a great bargain to me
#30
And so has a little turbo 4 cylinder, brent Rau in his dsm but that car has a tubed chassis, even more interesting is Shep's 7 second pass in his manaul awd dsm.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TwNzbcEXudE (no nitrous.)
Man that's weard, i mean it's just a little turbo 4 cylinder, maybe the hyundai will also have similar architecture.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TwNzbcEXudE (no nitrous.)
Man that's weard, i mean it's just a little turbo 4 cylinder, maybe the hyundai will also have similar architecture.
Besides, it is a well known fact that (as far as street cars are concerned) higher displacement engines can make higher amounts of horsepower more reliably. Very few people daily drive 600+hp 4 bangers relative to the amount of people that daily drive v8's at the same hp level.
#31
You're missing my point. This has less to do with proving a turbo 4's (which no one has even touched or modded yet) potential than it is acknowledging the v6's.
Besides, it is a well known fact that (as far as street cars are concerned) higher displacement engines can make higher amounts of horsepower more reliably. Very few people daily drive 600+hp 4 bangers relative to the amount of people that daily drive v8's at the same hp level.
Besides, it is a well known fact that (as far as street cars are concerned) higher displacement engines can make higher amounts of horsepower more reliably. Very few people daily drive 600+hp 4 bangers relative to the amount of people that daily drive v8's at the same hp level.
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I'll tell you what, you've just won me over with this argument, idk what I was thinking, good work kiddo. There's no getting anything by you.
Last edited by jimmy169; 02-27-2009 at 04:19 PM.
#32
Since when was a turbo 4 better 'modability' wise than the GM DOHC DI 3.6? People are getting 300+hp out of just intake and exhaust. There is supposedly alot left in the tune due to DI also. At just 1 mph lower in the quarter on a considerably heavier car (and .1 et faster), I think even the v6 Camaro is more than competitive with the v6 genesis. The 4 cyl genesis is going to get stomped in stock form.
I'm going to have to say the higher displacement DI motor is going to have much more potential than a little turbo 4.
GM motors>>>>hyundai motors.
I'm going to have to say the higher displacement DI motor is going to have much more potential than a little turbo 4.
GM motors>>>>hyundai motors.
#33
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Wow I can't believe your using this childish old excuse. Ofcourse, take money constraints out of the picture and the sky's the limit.
I'll tell you what, you've just won me over with this argument, idk what I was thinking, good work kiddo. There's no getting anything by you.
Wow I can't believe your using this childish old excuse. Ofcourse, take money constraints out of the picture and the sky's the limit.
I'll tell you what, you've just won me over with this argument, idk what I was thinking, good work kiddo. There's no getting anything by you.
Irunelevens: Ok. That makes more sense.
#34
Something is not right here...hmmm.
The car weights 3488lbs,has 308hp and yet gets 14.5's....sound like this car is not even close to it's potential.I know more factors come into play in determining a car's 1/4 mile but this seems way off to me
I expect atleast high 13s at best.
The car handles great though.
The car weights 3488lbs,has 308hp and yet gets 14.5's....sound like this car is not even close to it's potential.I know more factors come into play in determining a car's 1/4 mile but this seems way off to me
I expect atleast high 13s at best.
The car handles great though.
#35
Something is not right here...hmmm.
The car weights 3488lbs,has 308hp and yet gets 14.5's....sound like this car is not even close to it's potential.I know more factors come into play in determining a car's 1/4 mile but this seems way off to me
I expect atleast high 13s at best.
The car handles great though.
The car weights 3488lbs,has 308hp and yet gets 14.5's....sound like this car is not even close to it's potential.I know more factors come into play in determining a car's 1/4 mile but this seems way off to me
I expect atleast high 13s at best.
The car handles great though.
The thing no one has mentioned yet and should scare the domestics is this is Hyundai's first true sports coupe. Just think what they'll accomplish in a mid cycle update or second generation.
#36
Sorry, i always assume the worst when reading the internet, bad habit. I just can't stand that argument, when I owned my dsm I'd get that all the time, "no replacement for displacement," drove me nuts, also was prob the reason I had to buy an ls1 to see what all the fuss was about. There's a lot more you have to consider when it come's to reliability, the engine isn't all that can go wrong with a car. A car could have an amazing powerplant with loads of potential, but what about it's driveline, what if that's ****, it's tranny, rear, you name it, those things add up and your car is only as good as the weakest link. But back to the hyundai, I stand by my statement about the compression being suitable for forced induction so it's not so simple to add FI to a n/a v6, I'm curious about your response. If you do the math, I think the turbo 4 banger will have more potential, and better bang for the buck, if we're talking stock internals and basically bolt on or fuel related mods, even all top end mods, the turbo'd car should be easier, cheaper, and respond a lot better to mods.
#37
I'm curious about your response.
Boost isn't the only power adder out there
#39
Looks like the Genesis beat out the G37 according to Autoblog in a test.
http://www.autoblog.com/2009/02/27/h...first-compari/
http://www.autoblog.com/2009/02/27/h...first-compari/
#40
Well it'll be interesting to see what the fanbase does with it when it come's out, but in todays economy idk if I'd expect much to be done with a brand new car but who knows maybe some shops will get right to work on both.