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Old 04-19-2010, 11:15 AM
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Toyota Motor Corporation Agrees to Settle NHTSA Civil Penalty

Toyota Motor Corporation (TMC) announced today that it has agreed to settle the civil penalty demanded in the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration's April 5 letter related to the company's recall for slow-to-return and sticky accelerator pedals by paying $16.4 million. The company said:

"We agreed to this settlement in order to avoid a protracted dispute and possible litigation, as well as to allow us to move forward fully-focused on the steps to strengthen our quality assurance operations. This will allow us to focus on delivering safe, reliable, high quality vehicles for our customers and responding to consumer feedback with honesty and integrity. These have been core Toyota values for 70 years, and we pledge to make an even greater effort to adhere to this philosophy now and in the future. We also welcome a new, more transparent chapter in our relationship with NHTSA, consistent with our commitments to Congress and the American people.

"We regret that NHTSA tentatively concluded that they should seek a civil penalty. Toyota denies NHTSA's allegation that it violated the Safety Act or its implementing regulations.

"We believe we made a good faith effort to investigate this condition and develop an appropriate counter-measure. We have acknowledged that we could have done a better job of sharing relevant information within our global operations and outside the company, but we did not try to hide a defect to avoid dealing with a safety problem."

"Toyota is already moving ahead with a number of important steps to strengthen our quality assurance operations and enhance our ability to meet customer expectations.
  • We have strengthened our information-gathering capabilities to respond more quickly to customer concerns and investigate potential quality issues more aggressively.
  • We've appointed a new Chief Quality Officer for North America, enlisted the help of respected independent experts to ensure our quality assurance processes are robust and given the region a bigger role in decision-making on safety issues for North America.
  • Our dealers continue to make extraordinary efforts to repair recalled vehicles as quickly and conveniently as possible for our customers.
"We are proud of the vehicles that Toyota produces and are confident they are among the safest on the road. As our actions since this recall was announced underscore, we are intensely focused on listening even more carefully to our customers and addressing any issues that emerge without delay. All of us at Toyota are grateful for our customers' continued support, and we are determined to continue earning their trust."

Statement from U.S. Transportation Secretary Ray LaHood on Toyota's Agreement to Pay Maximum Civil Penalty

WASHINGTON, D.C. – U.S. Transportation Secretary Ray LaHood today made the following statement after Toyota Motor Corporation agreed to pay a $16.375 million fine – the largest fine permitted by law – for failing to notify the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) of a dangerous pedal defect for almost four months: "By failing to report known safety problems as it is required to do under the law, Toyota put consumers at risk," said Secretary LaHood. "I am pleased that Toyota has accepted responsibility for violating its legal obligations to report any defects promptly. We are continuing to investigate whether the company has lived up to all its disclosure obligations."

The $16.375 million fine for Toyota is the largest civil penalty ever assessed against an auto manufacturer by NHTSA. This penalty relates specifically to both the "sticky pedal" and "slow to return pedal" defects, which resulted in Toyota's recall of approximately 2.3 million vehicles in the U.S. in late January. On February 16, NHTSA launched an investigation into the timeliness and scope of the three recent Toyota recalls and required the automaker to turn over documents and explanations related to its adherence to U.S. auto safety laws. NHTSA officials are continuing to review Toyota's statements and more than 120,000 pages of Toyota documents to determine whether the company has complied with all its legal obligations. NHTSA has the most active defect investigation program in the world, opening or closing an investigation almost every week. Over the last three years, NHTSA's defect and compliance investigations have resulted in 524 recalls involving 23.5 million vehicles.

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toyota is getting its *** kicked.
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They Shoulda gotten a bigger fine then that, 16.375 million is pocket change to a company like that, the fine should actually make them feel something, and they should have to pay each person who was at risk in one of their cars.
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Originally Posted by ULTIMATEORANGESS
toyota is getting its *** kicked.
True.






Originally Posted by Foosh
They Shoulda gotten a bigger fine then that, 16.375 million is pocket change to a company like that, the fine should actually make them feel something, and they should have to pay each person who was at risk in one of their cars.
I agree.
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Toyota is very much like illegal drugs; it's there, it's not good for you but some people like it and get addicted, and you're better off just keeping it out of your life in the first place.
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Originally Posted by RPM WS6
Toyota is very much like illegal drugs; it's there, it's not good for you but some people like it and get addicted, and you're better off just keeping it out of your life in the first place.
Well said! Is that quote from you?
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Originally Posted by Foosh
They Shoulda gotten a bigger fine then that, 16.375 million is pocket change to a company like that, the fine should actually make them feel something, and they should have to pay each person who was at risk in one of their cars.
the point is they are paying to gov for ******* up, not the amount of the fine.


Originally Posted by RPM WS6
Toyota is very much like illegal drugs; it's there, it's not good for you but some people like it and get addicted, and you're better off just keeping it out of your life in the first place.
perfect way of summing it up
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Originally Posted by TT632
Well said! Is that quote from you?
Yes sir it is!
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Originally Posted by Foosh
They Shoulda gotten a bigger fine then that, 16.375 million is pocket change to a company like that, the fine should actually make them feel something, and they should have to pay each person who was at risk in one of their cars.

while i cant stand toyota and would like to see it happen if the big three had to pay out every time they screwed up they wouldve been gone long ago.


but like the big three toyota will pay in lost sales.
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Originally Posted by RPM WS6
Yes sir it is!
If you don't mind I'll keep it in my sig for a while.
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Originally Posted by TT632


If you don't mind I'll keep it in my sig for a while.
Sounds good to me.
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"Crash Data Suggest Driver Error in Toyota Accidents "

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...googlenews_wsj

"The U.S. Department of Transportation has analyzed dozens of data recorders from Toyota Motor Corp. vehicles involved in accidents blamed on sudden acceleration and found that at the time of the crashes, throttles were wide open and the brakes were not engaged, people familiar with the findings said.

The results suggest that some drivers who said their Toyota and Lexus vehicles surged out of control were mistakenly flooring the accelerator when they intended to jam on the brakes. But the findings don't exonerate Toyota from two known issues blamed for sudden acceleration in its vehicles: sticky accelerator pedals and floor mats that can trap accelerator pedals to the floor.

The findings are consistent with a 1989 government-sponsored study that blamed similar driver mistakes for a rash of sudden-acceleration reports involving Audi 5000 sedans. "
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Originally Posted by proporio
"Crash Data Suggest Driver Error in Toyota Accidents "

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...googlenews_wsj

"The U.S. Department of Transportation has analyzed dozens of data recorders from Toyota Motor Corp. vehicles involved in accidents blamed on sudden acceleration and found that at the time of the crashes, throttles were wide open and the brakes were not engaged, people familiar with the findings said.

The results suggest that some drivers who said their Toyota and Lexus vehicles surged out of control were mistakenly flooring the accelerator when they intended to jam on the brakes. But the findings don't exonerate Toyota from two known issues blamed for sudden acceleration in its vehicles: sticky accelerator pedals and floor mats that can trap accelerator pedals to the floor.

The findings are consistent with a 1989 government-sponsored study that blamed similar driver mistakes for a rash of sudden-acceleration reports involving Audi 5000 sedans. "
Oh snap!
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Let's see the response that elicits...
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Human error is the most likely cause of most of these "stuck pedals"? I am shocked, SHOCKED.
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Yeah the classic Apple Computer PR formula:

1 - Try to cover up problem
2 - Deny problem ever even existed in the first place
3 - Blame user

It's worked great for Apple, so I bet this will be the new norm for Toyota.

By the way, if you read the article you'll notice that 1 - they tested only a handful of the "problem" vehicles, and did not note what percentage of those they found to be driver error...so we could be talking about 10 driver errors out of 1000 reported problems. Also, they specifically noted in the article that the NHTSA DID NOT release the information...so where did they get this information from?

It would not surprise me one bit to find that alot of the supposed "problem" cases were not even "driver error" but purposefully executed for expected monetary gain. None of this changes the fact that Toyota blew it big time.
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Originally Posted by Foosh
they should have to pay each person who was at risk in one of their cars.
This way of thinking is what is causing our downfall. You think you are owed money even though there are no damages.
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Originally Posted by 01ssreda4
This way of thinking is what is causing our downfall. You think you are owed money even though there are no damages.
I see what you are saying, but is paying the government any better?
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Originally Posted by Irunelevens
Let's see the response that elicits...
There is a related thread in the lounge and someone just made the point that they are using the crash data from the computers that can't tell the difference in light throttle and WOT...so the validity of all the data is a question for me.

Oh and I know that if I didn't do anything wrong I wouldn't pay. Paying a settlement is like an admission of guilt that doesn't go on your permanent record.
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Large corporations sometimes settle just because it costs SOOO much to do a trial that might take several years.


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