2013 gt500
07-09-2011, 09:51 PM
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I think it looks nice, but it's impractical for daily driving due to poor visibility and extra fat steering wheel(which gets fixed with the new version). The 4th gen WS6 looks better to me, but I kinda like the 1st gen better and I definitely prefer the 1st over the 5th, even with the glaring similarities. After all this time, I'm still inclined to like the firechicken best(including any T/A).
07-13-2011, 04:22 PM
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They do, in Australia. It's called the Falcon Boss GT, it's a low compression forged Coyote motor with a TVS supercharger.
http://www.vidbb.com/vbtube_show.php...T-dyno-video-1
5.8L Coyote motor is a possibility. 2.3L TVS, likely not. That is major overkill. You talk about running less boost to reach the same power numbers, the problem is bigger blowers need to be spun harder to be within their peak efficiency range.
When you take a larger bore blower and don't spin it adequately power under the curve and torque suffer. A 1.9L TVS is probably what we will see, possibly with a 2.3L TVS FRPP available package.
http://www.vidbb.com/vbtube_show.php...T-dyno-video-1
5.8L Coyote motor is a possibility. 2.3L TVS, likely not. That is major overkill. You talk about running less boost to reach the same power numbers, the problem is bigger blowers need to be spun harder to be within their peak efficiency range.
When you take a larger bore blower and don't spin it adequately power under the curve and torque suffer. A 1.9L TVS is probably what we will see, possibly with a 2.3L TVS FRPP available package.
Also, the motor is not Coyote based. Not untill the body dtyle change in 2014. The current motor just gets a little bigger bore
07-14-2011, 06:37 PM
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i honestly cant wait to see a 5.8L Boss351 NA Direct injection (based off the 5.0 of course) pushing around 500HP once the style change takes place in three or so years.
a kid can dream...
a kid can dream...
07-14-2011, 07:18 PM
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EXTRA! EXTRA!!!
http://www.autoblog.com/2011/07/14/f...me-with-camar/
Looks like the 2013 model might only have a 20hp bump to compete with the new ZL1.
Sounds like the two cars will be just about dead even.
The 2014/5 is supposed to be a redesign and will likely have even more power.
Again, just like everything else... this is just a rumor for now.
http://www.autoblog.com/2011/07/14/f...me-with-camar/
Looks like the 2013 model might only have a 20hp bump to compete with the new ZL1.
Sounds like the two cars will be just about dead even.
The 2014/5 is supposed to be a redesign and will likely have even more power.
Again, just like everything else... this is just a rumor for now.
07-14-2011, 10:38 PM
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Figured, I honestly didn't see them doing a whole new motor/setup when the new model is due out soon anyways.
Should be interesting see how it does with the ZL1.
Should be interesting see how it does with the ZL1.
10-05-2011, 11:02 AM
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http://www.motorauthority.com/news/1...percharged-v-8
Interesting, may actually be true
The UAW and Ford reached a contract agreement today that secures 12,000 new jobs in the U.S. by 2015, brings back into the U.S. previously outsourced work, and guarantees $16 billion in investments and upgrades to U.S.-based manufacturing. It also contains a small nugget about the upcoming 2013 Shelby Mustang GT500: a 5.8-liter supercharged engine.
According to the contract documents as scoured by MustangsDaily (and confirmed by us [PDF link]), part of the deal involves an upgrade at the Romeo Engine Plant to manufacture a new 5.8-liter supercharged V-8 engine that will replace the current 5.4-liter supercharged unit. The current GT500 uses the 5.4-liter aluminum-block engine.
The obvious implication is that the next GT500, which is already expected to grow in power, potentially up to 600 horsepower, will use the 5.8-liter supercharged V-8. A 400-cc increase in displacement could be enough to get the 50-plus-horsepower gains expected.
Previous reports have also hinted at precisely this upgrade, but the finding in the UAW contract documents (full contract in PDF form here) firms up the case for the larger V-8.
According to the contract documents as scoured by MustangsDaily (and confirmed by us [PDF link]), part of the deal involves an upgrade at the Romeo Engine Plant to manufacture a new 5.8-liter supercharged V-8 engine that will replace the current 5.4-liter supercharged unit. The current GT500 uses the 5.4-liter aluminum-block engine.
The obvious implication is that the next GT500, which is already expected to grow in power, potentially up to 600 horsepower, will use the 5.8-liter supercharged V-8. A 400-cc increase in displacement could be enough to get the 50-plus-horsepower gains expected.
Previous reports have also hinted at precisely this upgrade, but the finding in the UAW contract documents (full contract in PDF form here) firms up the case for the larger V-8.
10-05-2011, 05:32 PM
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EXTRA! EXTRA!!!
http://www.autoblog.com/2011/07/14/f...me-with-camar/
Looks like the 2013 model might only have a 20hp bump to compete with the new ZL1.
Sounds like the two cars will be just about dead even.
The 2014/5 is supposed to be a redesign and will likely have even more power.
Again, just like everything else... this is just a rumor for now.
http://www.autoblog.com/2011/07/14/f...me-with-camar/
Looks like the 2013 model might only have a 20hp bump to compete with the new ZL1.
Sounds like the two cars will be just about dead even.
The 2014/5 is supposed to be a redesign and will likely have even more power.
Again, just like everything else... this is just a rumor for now.
10-06-2011, 09:36 AM
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10-06-2011, 10:12 AM
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PS... 11.1's on just tires... GOOD GAWD! That's positively impressive. I still won't buy one, but man... Some kinda quick for essentially stock.
10-07-2011, 10:09 AM
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The rumor mill is also stating that the 5.8l will get variable cam timing as well, which would be pretty cool. I have not heard much to confirm or deny that though.
I don't think the styling change will be as drastic as the 2009-2010. Weight gas/loss will be negligible untill the "new" mustang comes out, as it loses a good bit of weight, but also size.
To me, the crazy thing as the 2.3l TVS that the 2013s will come with, will support 800whp, and upper-lower pulley combos with the other bot ons will have them well over 700whp. That is crazy to me; a bolt on, 135 mph mustang....yikes
I don't think the styling change will be as drastic as the 2009-2010. Weight gas/loss will be negligible untill the "new" mustang comes out, as it loses a good bit of weight, but also size.
To me, the crazy thing as the 2.3l TVS that the 2013s will come with, will support 800whp, and upper-lower pulley combos with the other bot ons will have them well over 700whp. That is crazy to me; a bolt on, 135 mph mustang....yikes
10-07-2011, 10:30 AM
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I'm kinda hoping they can stay at least close to where they are now. Back in the 60's, the hp wars were pushing limits everywhere... Then stepped in the fed and ruined it for ALL of us for about the next 15yrs and even then, getting any kind of power basically required the aftermarket. Today we can get a car so "stupid powerful" it's like an honest to goodness weekend only race car from the early 90's. Where cars are concerned, we're in good times and my hope is that same fed doesn't ruin it all over again.
. Dang kids driving daddy's car into a post seems to get the public into a frenzy.
EXTRA! EXTRA!!!
http://www.autoblog.com/2011/07/14/f...me-with-camar/
Looks like the 2013 model might only have a 20hp bump to compete with the new ZL1.
Sounds like the two cars will be just about dead even.
The 2014/5 is supposed to be a redesign and will likely have even more power.
Again, just like everything else... this is just a rumor for now.
http://www.autoblog.com/2011/07/14/f...me-with-camar/
Looks like the 2013 model might only have a 20hp bump to compete with the new ZL1.
Sounds like the two cars will be just about dead even.
The 2014/5 is supposed to be a redesign and will likely have even more power.
Again, just like everything else... this is just a rumor for now.
The rumor mill is also stating that the 5.8l will get variable cam timing as well, which would be pretty cool. I have not heard much to confirm or deny that though.
I don't think the styling change will be as drastic as the 2009-2010. Weight gas/loss will be negligible untill the "new" mustang comes out, as it loses a good bit of weight, but also size.
To me, the crazy thing as the 2.3l TVS that the 2013s will come with, will support 800whp, and upper-lower pulley combos with the other bot ons will have them well over 700whp. That is crazy to me; a bolt on, 135 mph mustang....yikes
I don't think the styling change will be as drastic as the 2009-2010. Weight gas/loss will be negligible untill the "new" mustang comes out, as it loses a good bit of weight, but also size.
To me, the crazy thing as the 2.3l TVS that the 2013s will come with, will support 800whp, and upper-lower pulley combos with the other bot ons will have them well over 700whp. That is crazy to me; a bolt on, 135 mph mustang....yikes
*Been reading through this discussion and thought I may as well put in my .02 cents, until it equals a few bucks maybe lol.
