Official ZL1 Power Figure and Other Details Released
09-13-2011, 12:37 PM
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I dont know why people are complaining about the auto option either, it's great for drag racing. Also (in theory) it should keep prices down somewhat too because they will sell way more automatics than manuals I bet, and a larger number of ZL1's overall with both tranny options.
Also,
Chances are this will be probably the best handling camaro of all time as well, for those concerned about the weight.
Also,
Chances are this will be probably the best handling camaro of all time as well, for those concerned about the weight.
09-13-2011, 01:25 PM
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http://www.goodyear.com/en-US/tires/...f1-supercar-g2
Apparently Autoweek is not correct.
09-13-2011, 07:08 PM
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You and that retarded smile face you put before your posts really aren't this thick-headed in real life, are you? I was talking specifically about Porsche, since you asked about them. THEIR high end performance versions were manual-only until the PDK came out. So while you can buy an automatic Porsche, the track-oriented models were never offered as actual automatics. That transmission was used in the more pedestrian models. Do you understand what I am talking about now?
shove your superiority attitude up your ******* ***.
i didnt ask for a breakdown. i asked if you can get a porsche with an auto and i also added other high end vehicles that come with autos disputing the fact that sports cars specifically super cars only come with manuals.
LOL at talking down to me.
unlike you i have other things going on and also unlike you i dont live for this ****. carry on.
09-13-2011, 07:10 PM
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They may be a Camaro specific size, but they are also standard on the 2012 Ford Mustang GT 500 High Performance Model.
http://www.goodyear.com/en-US/tires/...f1-supercar-g2
Apparently Autoweek is not correct.
http://www.goodyear.com/en-US/tires/...f1-supercar-g2
Apparently Autoweek is not correct.
Wow that burn really hurt 
09-13-2011, 09:34 PM
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09-14-2011, 03:02 AM
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09-14-2011, 06:02 AM
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camaros have been successful enough. thats why this car is being produced. im sure its built on the same assembly line and im sure that,past sales along with using some existing 5th gen parts will offset some cost along with pricing it correctly.
simply put, 5th gens as a whole are successful and zl1s arent going to hurt that.
GM has been pissing money anyway so who cares.
09-14-2011, 02:08 PM
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Yo forgot to say PLEASE, sister! Regardless, you can' have mine no matter how small you feel yours is...
You're sure of too many things which aren't important. Camaros may have been successful enough in your limited scope, but GM doesn't offer vehicles intending them to merely sell. They have a name and a reputation to concern themselves with as well.
Of course it will get many of the same parts, like the entire body structure. It will have additional things too, which is why the cost will be higher than the SS. There's no "correct pricing" for a car like this. It is intended to be a limited production model, better than the others and at a higher price. 50K for any pony car is as close to "correct" as they can get. That's still pricey, but it will sell. That doesn't mean GM won't take any hit on production costs.
Nobody is claiming the ZL1 will hurt the success of the Camaro. It should enhance success, but at a cost. The only question was, will it cause GM a lower profit margin.
I care. This is THE main reason I will no longer purchase a new GM vehicle. Without question, I'm not the only one who feels this way. I wanted to buy a new ZO6 just this year, but my concern for the way GM has been run for the past few decades caused me to step away. On a brighter note: I decided not to buy any vehicle for now. I'm hoping GM will change its ways so I can go forward with my purchase. Until I think that's happening, it's on hold.
Contrary to your obvious opinion, yours is NOT the one that matters most. Your thoughts about GM will never sway the purchase of most people.
camaros have been successful enough. thats why this car is being produced. im sure its built on the same assembly line and im sure that,past sales along with using some existing 5th gen parts will offset some cost along with pricing it correctly.
Of course it will get many of the same parts, like the entire body structure. It will have additional things too, which is why the cost will be higher than the SS. There's no "correct pricing" for a car like this. It is intended to be a limited production model, better than the others and at a higher price. 50K for any pony car is as close to "correct" as they can get. That's still pricey, but it will sell. That doesn't mean GM won't take any hit on production costs.
simply put, 5th gens as a whole are successful and zl1s arent going to hurt that.
GM has been pissing money anyway so who cares.
Contrary to your obvious opinion, yours is NOT the one that matters most. Your thoughts about GM will never sway the purchase of most people.
09-14-2011, 04:59 PM
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With a watts link and the ZL1's tires I would bet that a 4th gen 1LE camaro (koni equipped) would out handle a 5th gen ZL1, it would almost be 1000lbs lighter...
Also some food for thought, 5th gens compete in the same Auto-x class as 4th gens (fstock) and are not even remotely competitive with them, the weight and the over sized wheels kill the car.