Chevrolet takes ZR1 and ZL1 to Virginia International Raceway
02-28-2012, 11:29 PM
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Chevrolet takes ZR1 and ZL1 to Virginia International Raceway Pretty cool videos of 2 awesome cars. 
http://www.autoblog.com/2012/02/27/s...camaro-zl1-to/
Camaro ZL1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5heLDdlJfbE
Corvette ZR1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cLVDXz-jXMw
http://www.autoblog.com/2012/02/27/s...camaro-zl1-to/
Camaro ZL1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5heLDdlJfbE
Corvette ZR1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cLVDXz-jXMw
02-29-2012, 05:05 AM
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Camaro ZL1 2:52.4
Corvette ZR1 2:45.6
Just imagine if the ZL1 was in the 34xx-36xx lb range!!!
Here's the list of the cars times: Obviously the times need to be updated now that the ZR1 broke the fastest production car time at the track!
Corvette ZR1 2:45.6
Just imagine if the ZL1 was in the 34xx-36xx lb range!!!
Here's the list of the cars times: Obviously the times need to be updated now that the ZR1 broke the fastest production car time at the track!
1 2:45.9 MOSLER MT900S LL3 11/08
2 2:48.6 DODGE VIPER SRT10 ACR LL3 11/08
3 2:49.8 MOSLER PHOTON LL5 2/11
4 2:50.7 CHEVROLET CORVETTE ZR1 (Michelin Pilot Sport Cup tires) LL3 2/12
5 2:51.8 CHEVROLET CORVETTE ZR1 (Michelin Pilot Sport PS2 tires) LL3 2/10
6 2:51.8 LAMBORGHINI GALLARDO LP570-4 SUPERLEGGERA LL5 2/11
7 2:52.3 KTM X-BOW LLU 2/10
[2:52.38 2012 Camaro ZL1]
8 2:53.2 NISSAN GT-R LL3 2/12
9 2:53.5 CHEVROLET CORVETTE Z06 (Z07) LL3 2/11
10 2:53.9 LAMBORGHINI MURCIÉLAGO LP670-4 SV LL5 2/10
11 2:54.6 FERRARI 430 SCUDERIA LL5 11/08
12 2:55.6 NISSAN GT-R LL3 11/08
13 2:55.9 PORSCHE 911 GT3 RS LL4 2/11
14 2:57.4 DODGE VIPER SRT10 LL3 10/07
15 2:57.5 PORSCHE 911 TURBO S LL4 2/11
16 2:57.6 ARIEL ATOM 3 LLU 2/10
17 2:58.0 MERCEDES-BENZ SLS AMG LL4 2/11
18 2:58.2 CHEVROLET CORVETTE Z06 LL3 8/07
19 2:58.5 CHEVROLET CORVETTE GRAND SPORT LL2 2/10
20 2:59.0 NISSAN GT-R (all-season tires) LL3 11/08
21 2:59.5 AUDI R8 5.2 FSI LL4 2/10
22 3:00.7 FORD GT LL4 11/06
23 3:00.7 PORSCHE PANAMERA TURBO S LL4 2/12
24 3:01.1 CHEVROLET CORVETTE Z06 LL3 11/06
25 3:01.2 CHEVROLET CORVETTE (Z51) LL2 11/08
26 3:01.6 DODGE VIPER SRT10 LL3 11/06
27 3:01.8 PORSCHE 911 GT3 LL3 8/07
28 3:02.8 FORD MUSTANG BOSS 302 LAGUNA SECA LL2 2/12
29 3:03.6 CHEVROLET CORVETTE (Z51) LL2 8/07
30 3:03.8 PORSCHE BOXSTER SPYDER LL3 2/11
31 3:03.9 PORSCHE CAYMAN R LL3 2/12
32 3:04.0 CADILLAC CTS-V SEDAN LL2 11/08
33 3:04.0 FORD MUSTANG SHELBY GT500 LL2 2/11
2 2:48.6 DODGE VIPER SRT10 ACR LL3 11/08
3 2:49.8 MOSLER PHOTON LL5 2/11
4 2:50.7 CHEVROLET CORVETTE ZR1 (Michelin Pilot Sport Cup tires) LL3 2/12
5 2:51.8 CHEVROLET CORVETTE ZR1 (Michelin Pilot Sport PS2 tires) LL3 2/10
6 2:51.8 LAMBORGHINI GALLARDO LP570-4 SUPERLEGGERA LL5 2/11
7 2:52.3 KTM X-BOW LLU 2/10
[2:52.38 2012 Camaro ZL1]
8 2:53.2 NISSAN GT-R LL3 2/12
9 2:53.5 CHEVROLET CORVETTE Z06 (Z07) LL3 2/11
10 2:53.9 LAMBORGHINI MURCIÉLAGO LP670-4 SV LL5 2/10
11 2:54.6 FERRARI 430 SCUDERIA LL5 11/08
12 2:55.6 NISSAN GT-R LL3 11/08
13 2:55.9 PORSCHE 911 GT3 RS LL4 2/11
14 2:57.4 DODGE VIPER SRT10 LL3 10/07
15 2:57.5 PORSCHE 911 TURBO S LL4 2/11
16 2:57.6 ARIEL ATOM 3 LLU 2/10
17 2:58.0 MERCEDES-BENZ SLS AMG LL4 2/11
18 2:58.2 CHEVROLET CORVETTE Z06 LL3 8/07
19 2:58.5 CHEVROLET CORVETTE GRAND SPORT LL2 2/10
20 2:59.0 NISSAN GT-R (all-season tires) LL3 11/08
21 2:59.5 AUDI R8 5.2 FSI LL4 2/10
22 3:00.7 FORD GT LL4 11/06
23 3:00.7 PORSCHE PANAMERA TURBO S LL4 2/12
24 3:01.1 CHEVROLET CORVETTE Z06 LL3 11/06
25 3:01.2 CHEVROLET CORVETTE (Z51) LL2 11/08
26 3:01.6 DODGE VIPER SRT10 LL3 11/06
27 3:01.8 PORSCHE 911 GT3 LL3 8/07
28 3:02.8 FORD MUSTANG BOSS 302 LAGUNA SECA LL2 2/12
29 3:03.6 CHEVROLET CORVETTE (Z51) LL2 8/07
30 3:03.8 PORSCHE BOXSTER SPYDER LL3 2/11
31 3:03.9 PORSCHE CAYMAN R LL3 2/12
32 3:04.0 CADILLAC CTS-V SEDAN LL2 11/08
33 3:04.0 FORD MUSTANG SHELBY GT500 LL2 2/11
02-29-2012, 08:24 AM
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Didnt R&T test both the GTR and the ZL1 and showed the ZL1 was nowhere in its league?? Now GM is showing the ZL1 to be faster than the GTR... I like the ZL1 but something doesnt add up here.
02-29-2012, 09:10 AM
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You can't compare times from the same track that were not done on the same day.
Also, it is much easier for manufacturers to get better times at the tracks than it is the amgazines becasue the engineers are much more confortable in the cars.
CD's LL times in the 2011 GT500 are 6 seconds slower than Ford's times on the same track. I am sure the same would hold true for all cars on that list.
Also, it is much easier for manufacturers to get better times at the tracks than it is the amgazines becasue the engineers are much more confortable in the cars.
CD's LL times in the 2011 GT500 are 6 seconds slower than Ford's times on the same track. I am sure the same would hold true for all cars on that list.
02-29-2012, 09:23 AM
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You can't compare times from the same track that were not done on the same day.
Also, it is much easier for manufacturers to get better times at the tracks than it is the amgazines becasue the engineers are much more confortable in the cars.
CD's LL times in the 2011 GT500 are 6 seconds slower than Ford's times on the same track. I am sure the same would hold true for all cars on that list.
Also, it is much easier for manufacturers to get better times at the tracks than it is the amgazines becasue the engineers are much more confortable in the cars.
CD's LL times in the 2011 GT500 are 6 seconds slower than Ford's times on the same track. I am sure the same would hold true for all cars on that list.
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02-29-2012, 06:48 PM
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But that still doesn't make one car definitively faster (or slower), that speaks more about the driver than the actual car.
These are cars we're talking about here, not the people that might drive them.
Not that I'm trying to imply that a ZL1 with a top driver behind the wheel will beat a Nissan GTR around that same course (though it still might, not sure) in this particular instance, just making a general observation.
Just because one driver can go faster in one car versus another doesn't mean that that other car still isn't capable of being faster in different hands.
But going by the law of averages then yes, more people might still be faster in one car that's easier to drive well versus another, regardless of what it's actual capabilities are (with a top driver).
02-29-2012, 08:21 PM
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Yea & you guys heard what happen after all the testing...... ******* idiot! 
Aaron Gold, a producer on Top Gear USA, met with some misfortune in the rain at VIR with a ZL1. First ZL1 crashed.....
http://cars.about.com/b/2012/02/27/c...camaro-zl1.htm
Aaron Gold, a producer on Top Gear USA, met with some misfortune in the rain at VIR with a ZL1. First ZL1 crashed.....
http://cars.about.com/b/2012/02/27/c...camaro-zl1.htm
02-29-2012, 10:19 PM
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LOLOLOLOL The car show, what?? Top Gear USA isn't Top Gear UK, but it's better than all the other car shows we get. The car show I could only make it through a few shows, and I was trying REALLY hard to like it too.
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Read up on this
http://www.lsxtv.com/news/chevrolet-...s-cars-in-2011
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Which is why I think it is rediculous to put so much emphasis on road course times. We all know the vast majorioty of the buyers for both the GT500s and ZL1s are not doing so that they can use them as a track rat. At most it will be some guy who does a few HPDEs a year, and the rest of the owners will buy them just to cruise them in nice weather.
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Agreed.
But that still doesn't make one car definitively faster (or slower), that speaks more about the driver than the actual car.
These are cars we're talking about here, not the people that might drive them.
Not that I'm trying to imply that a ZL1 with a top driver behind the wheel will beat a Nissan GTR around that same course (though it still might, not sure) in this particular instance, just making a general observation.
Just because one driver can go faster in one car versus another doesn't mean that that other car still isn't capable of being faster in different hands.
But going by the law of averages then yes, more people might still be faster in one car that's easier to drive well versus another, regardless of what it's actual capabilities are (with a top driver).
But that still doesn't make one car definitively faster (or slower), that speaks more about the driver than the actual car.
These are cars we're talking about here, not the people that might drive them.
Not that I'm trying to imply that a ZL1 with a top driver behind the wheel will beat a Nissan GTR around that same course (though it still might, not sure) in this particular instance, just making a general observation.
Just because one driver can go faster in one car versus another doesn't mean that that other car still isn't capable of being faster in different hands.
But going by the law of averages then yes, more people might still be faster in one car that's easier to drive well versus another, regardless of what it's actual capabilities are (with a top driver).
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As to weight... C'mon now... The ZR1 is like 3333... Imagine how many changes would be required to get the much, much larger Camaro down nearly 800 lb. Besides, it may actually hinder the handling. Obviously, it's a real issue with the ZR1, to keep the rear in check while romping it. Even some pro drivers recommend leaving the nannies turned on.
