ZL1 Wins overall vs new GT500
06-13-2012, 09:30 PM
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and wait? are you saying the 5th gen is having trouble comparing to an 8 year old car?
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06-13-2012, 10:01 PM
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Straight line performance is flat out an embarrassment.
GM flapping their gums about the ZL1 dominating the GT500 is an embarrassment. Being happy with "the twisties" is an embarrassment. Ford kicked GM's ***. That should be an embarrassment.
Handling? Is this Honda tech.com?
GM flapping their gums about the ZL1 dominating the GT500 is an embarrassment. Being happy with "the twisties" is an embarrassment. Ford kicked GM's ***. That should be an embarrassment.
Handling? Is this Honda tech.com?
BUT, since day 1 the Camaro was out, we only hear plp bitching here; heavy, slow, ugly, pig..blah blah blah.
With the ZL1, all the haters can just shut up cause GM made this fat pig the fastest around the course!!! For cheaper than the GT500 too!
On the other hand(back to the reason I agree with you LOL), GM should have put the LS9 right from the start into the ZL1 and CTSV. I think this engine is a waste of money to produce instead of producing mass LS9 engines(..well I hope so lol).
So Ford won this round in my book. 2 cars with 6-7mph difference is a shame and cannot be compared.
Still for the price, the ZL1 is an outstanding package.
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06-13-2012, 10:20 PM
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I agree with you on this one...
BUT, since day 1 the Camaro was out, we only hear plp bitching here; heavy, slow, ugly, pig..blah blah blah.
With the ZL1, all the haters can just shut up cause GM made this fat pig the fastest around the course!!! For cheaper than the GT500 too!
On the other hand(back to the reason I agree with you LOL), GM should have put the LS9 right from the start into the ZL1 and CTSV. I think this engine is a waste of money to produce instead of producing mass LS9 engines(..well I hope so lol).
So Ford won this round in my book. 2 cars with 6-7mph difference is a shame and cannot be compared.
Still for the price, the ZL1 is an outstanding package.
BUT, since day 1 the Camaro was out, we only hear plp bitching here; heavy, slow, ugly, pig..blah blah blah.
With the ZL1, all the haters can just shut up cause GM made this fat pig the fastest around the course!!! For cheaper than the GT500 too!
On the other hand(back to the reason I agree with you LOL), GM should have put the LS9 right from the start into the ZL1 and CTSV. I think this engine is a waste of money to produce instead of producing mass LS9 engines(..well I hope so lol).
So Ford won this round in my book. 2 cars with 6-7mph difference is a shame and cannot be compared.
Still for the price, the ZL1 is an outstanding package.
06-13-2012, 10:31 PM
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I agree with you on this one...
BUT, since day 1 the Camaro was out, we only hear plp bitching here; heavy, slow, ugly, pig..blah blah blah.
With the ZL1, all the haters can just shut up cause GM made this fat pig the fastest around the course!!! For cheaper than the GT500 too!
On the other hand(back to the reason I agree with you LOL), GM should have put the LS9 right from the start into the ZL1 and CTSV. I think this engine is a waste of money to produce instead of producing mass LS9 engines(..well I hope so lol).
So Ford won this round in my book. 2 cars with 6-7mph difference is a shame and cannot be compared.
Still for the price, the ZL1 is an outstanding package.
BUT, since day 1 the Camaro was out, we only hear plp bitching here; heavy, slow, ugly, pig..blah blah blah.
With the ZL1, all the haters can just shut up cause GM made this fat pig the fastest around the course!!! For cheaper than the GT500 too!
On the other hand(back to the reason I agree with you LOL), GM should have put the LS9 right from the start into the ZL1 and CTSV. I think this engine is a waste of money to produce instead of producing mass LS9 engines(..well I hope so lol).
So Ford won this round in my book. 2 cars with 6-7mph difference is a shame and cannot be compared.
Still for the price, the ZL1 is an outstanding package.
06-13-2012, 10:33 PM
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It was only a $3k difference when both were new, and 04 Cobras sell for about 1.5X what 04 GT0s do for an apple to apple comparison. What is it with you GTO owners and your Napoleon syndrome?
06-13-2012, 10:41 PM
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You are the one who wanted to compare them lol. My point is its not fair to compare the Cobra to the GTO. You should compare the 04+ Mustang to the 04+ GTO
Again, he compared the GTO to the Cobra not me, The Cobra's performance is obviously worth more money. GTO:31795, Cobra's traditionally have alot of dealership markup as evidenced here: :http://www.svtperformance.com/forums...cobra-new.html
I would put the difference after markup at 5K
I would put the difference after markup at 5K
you mean 05 gt vs 05 Gto ? 
So what you are arguing is that because an older car that cost 20K we should compare it to a car 3 years newer that cost 20K used?
06-13-2012, 11:06 PM
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Again, he compared the GTO to the Cobra not me, The Cobra's performance is obviously worth more money. GTO:31795, Cobra's traditionally have alot of dealership markup as evidenced here: :http://www.svtperformance.com/forums...cobra-new.html
I would put the difference after markup at 5K
06-13-2012, 11:32 PM
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Zl1 is a nice car. I would just expect a bit more than just handling. 580 hp supercharged v8 motor but still can't trap over 120mph in the 1/4. A all motor 346 fbody is capable with way less horse power and doesn't need FI that's the only reason why I have a hard time siding with it over a gt500
Nut I hoped too that the ZL1 would be a 120-121mph car...just too heavy.
06-14-2012, 07:52 AM
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Straight line performance is flat out an embarrassment.
GM flapping their gums about the ZL1 dominating the GT500 is an embarrassment. Being happy with "the twisties" is an embarrassment. Ford kicked GM's ***. That should be an embarrassment.
Handling? Is this Honda tech.com?
GM flapping their gums about the ZL1 dominating the GT500 is an embarrassment. Being happy with "the twisties" is an embarrassment. Ford kicked GM's ***. That should be an embarrassment.
Handling? Is this Honda tech.com?
06-14-2012, 12:36 PM
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lol i love it now GM fan boys are track gods, thats the same excuse honda owners use when domestic owners talk about being the fastest at the 1/4. This is hilarious. The ZL1 has failed to compete in the same category as the gt500 in the test that matters most to everyone on here (Whoever says other wise is lieing to themselves).