^very true but no cobras?

 

Cobra's cost quite a bit more. I love 03-04 Cobra's btw, but not the new ones.

 

I see them around the same price as your goat.

 

bolded....i keep getting told i'm full of it when i say that.


and wait? are you saying the 5th gen is having trouble comparing to an 8 year old car? evil:

 

The fact that they cost $5K more than a GTO when they were new and now cost the same speaks volumes, doesn't it?

 

BTW, has anyone noticed that 10 years ago a Cobra cost $35K and today a GT500 costs $55K?

 

I agree with you on this one...

BUT, since day 1 the Camaro was out, we only hear plp bitching here; heavy, slow, ugly, pig..blah blah blah.

With the ZL1, all the haters can just shut up cause GM made this fat pig the fastest around the course!!! For cheaper than the GT500 too!

On the other hand(back to the reason I agree with you LOL), GM should have put the LS9 right from the start into the ZL1 and CTSV. I think this engine is a waste of money to produce instead of producing mass LS9 engines(..well I hope so lol).

So Ford won this round in my book. 2 cars with 6-7mph difference is a shame and cannot be compared.

Still for the price, the ZL1 is an outstanding package.

 

again, bear in mind, most of the guys you see putting the zl1 down on here, are the chevy guys. most of the ford guys seem to be giving it the respect it deserves.......

 

Well 05-06 compare to 03-04 the year also maters soo nope lol

 

Zl1 is a nice car. I would just expect a bit more than just handling. 580 hp supercharged v8 motor but still can't trap over 120mph in the 1/4. A all motor 346 fbody is capable with way less horse power and doesn't need FI that's the only reason why I have a hard time siding with it over a gt500

 

It was only a $3k difference when both were new, and 04 Cobras sell for about 1.5X what 04 GT0s do for an apple to apple comparison. What is it with you GTO owners and your Napoleon syndrome?

 

You are the one who wanted to compare them lol. My point is its not fair to compare the Cobra to the GTO. You should compare the 04+ Mustang to the 04+ GTO

Again, he compared the GTO to the Cobra not me, The Cobra's performance is obviously worth more money. GTO:31795, Cobra's traditionally have alot of dealership markup as evidenced here: :http://www.svtperformance.com/forums...cobra-new.html

I would put the difference after markup at 5K

 

I did 04 mustang cobra you mean 05 gt vs 05 Gto ?

 

So what you are arguing is that because an older car that cost 20K we should compare it to a car 3 years newer that cost 20K used?

All I am saying is you shouldn't compare a Cobra to a GTO. They are in different leagues

 

Weak argument. You could find them under MSRP too, so it's best just to use the MSRP. So we have a $3k gap from the GTO to the 2004 Cobra, $7k gap from the 2005 GTO to the 2005 GT, and a $9k gap from the 2004 GTO and GT.

 

A fox 346(LS1?) is a modded car out of the 80-90s. I know youre talking about performance, but those 2 cars just cant be compared at all.

Nut I hoped too that the ZL1 would be a 120-121mph car...just too heavy.

 

LOL I was tired yesterday and my reading/writing skills just failed me!

 

yea.. how so?

 

Because that's what every ricer uses as an excuse for getting their *** kicked by anything with a V8 in it.

 

lol i love it now GM fan boys are track gods, thats the same excuse honda owners use when domestic owners talk about being the fastest at the 1/4. This is hilarious. The ZL1 has failed to compete in the same category as the gt500 in the test that matters most to everyone on here (Whoever says other wise is lieing to themselves).