BizZzatch350

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So Fresh. So Clean.

evolve

Were talking 114-116 avg traps vs 125+ avg traps. The car will literally make the Z look like it went to reverse at the hit.

firebird99

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You guys seems to think that a car that's has a hard time putting the power down on a sticky track is going to be easy on the street.You can't honestly say you've never seen a slower car win because the car with more power can't hook. Auto cars are known for there ability to out launch a standard especially on the street.

1ltcap

not to be argumentitive......who the hell am i fooling?

you know there's people out there that can and do launch very easily on the street. if you know your car, you can launch it well enough to beat on the street the same cars it can beat on the track.

evolve

I see what youre saying, the 500 does need tires for the street. The thing is, and we ALL know this: anything can happen on the street!

88lx418

Hmmmmm, real world results tell a different story




http://www.jdmtube.com/video/306/201...le-PBIR-Moroso

Well hey, at least the ZL1 rides good!

evolve

I think the real enthusiast knows that a SC car isnt the best choice for a track. I have pondered why GM did this instead of skipping the MR in the Z and putting it in the 1LE and putting an LS9 in the Z and keeping the muscle car thing going. I posted this in another thread too

firebird99

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Wheels and tires,springs,adjustable dampers,Torsen limited slip,diff cooler,tranny cooler and oil cooler.

As far as it being slower on the road course I guess nobody could officially say it would be without the track/performance packs but it already can't beat the zl1 (handling/ride quality) with both packs so I would only assume it would be worse without them. If you never intend on running it on any type of track day they are both not needed for regular street driving or quarter mile blast.

Before any of you point out the fact that the gt500 is either right on the bumper or even beat the zl1 on a road course yes I know but it's not because it handled better it's because it could accelerate faster from turn to turn.

88lx418

Ls7 in the 1le and Ls9 in the Z

1ltcap

not to stick up for the zl or anything, but it really didnt look like its driver was pushing.

1ltcap

it doesn't matter how. it did it. and it did it just as i said it would.

88lx418

Owner is known for his track skills, but the car was reportedly having heatsoak issues despite an aftermarket H/E

GT500 owner said he was really testing the brakes just to see if they faded like MTs test car did, then he cancelled his subscription lol

You got to figure a 10+mph pull is HUGE, video below is the same car getting drug down the 1/4....

But yo. ZL1-4 Gt500-0 in magazine land

1ltcap

SVT performance package=equipment group 812A $3495.00
torsen differential,
19" frontwheels
20" rear wheels
bilstien adjustable dampers
unique rear springs
unique instrument cluster
unique shift ****

SVT Track Package $2995.00
external engine oil cooler
differential cooler with pump
transmission cooler with pump

ss1129

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Thats quite a price bump over the zl1 though isnt it? Considering the ZL1 come in at $55,320 with the optional $600 carbon hood insert and the GT500 comes in at $61,485. Both of those prices include the destination charge. Thats a difference of almost $6,200 dollars. So for $6,165 dollars less you get a car that handles better, stops better, behaves better and IMO looks better. For $6,165 dollars more you can get the car that has a better 0-60 and 1/4 mile. Both cars are great, but the zl1 on the track and paper is a better deal. Not to mention that GM gives you an extra 40,000 miles on the powertrain warranty.

firebird99

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Thank you that's exactly my point because every dog has there day even the underdog and unfortunately the ZL1 is....

Stop talking dirty to me.....
Thanks for some reason I couldnt access the options on the ford website with my iPhone.

firebird99

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Yeah you can tell he wasn't giving it its all but from that little bit of tape you could tell that track would favor the gt500 HP vs. zl1 handling....IMO

1ltcap

did you forget this?
http://www.flickr.com/photos/70148615@N03/7475987870/http://www.flickr.com/photos/70148615@N03/7475987870/ by http://www.flickr.com/people/70148615@N03/, on Flickr

you don't need ANY of the extra stuff to beat the zl in anything, unless you're doing multiple laps. in fact, considering that those packs add weight, i would suspect that without them, the 0-60, 0-100, 0-150, 1/4 mile losses would be even more humiliating for the zl driver.

evolve

Good point.

evolve

Dont forget the government needed gas guzzler tax... lol

1ltcap

bear in mind that chart isn't mine. i wouldn't know how to make one, even if i'd had the time. i "appropriated" it from whomever made it in another of these threads.

i'm wondering if someone should link your "at the track" thread in here.

also....i know you're a long way away....but how does one go about getting track time with their street car? i'm less than an hour from new jersey motorsports park, which has two very nice tracks. would be fun to run the gt out there.