Ready for another 1le? GM misses the mark again.
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Ready for another 1le? GM misses the mark again.
So yeah its a $3,500 option that leaves the car weighing 26lbs more than the standard ss. Re-geared, new shocks, a strut tower brace and a front splitter are the only real differences? Oh and you get red calipers and a zl1 steering wheel. GM doesnt get it. The mustang gets a real track car, we get a heavier Camaro SS? WTF?
http://www.caranddriver.com/news/201...amaro-1le-news
http://www.caranddriver.com/news/201...amaro-1le-news
#3
Well it will be better then the current SS but still trail the boss even with its new goodies hell they didn't even add better brakes WTF!!!!! That was one of the "1le's" major upgrades as a "track" car damn you Chevy step it up with the next gen.....
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So yeah its a $3,500 option that leaves the car weighing 26lbs more than the standard ss. Re-geared, new shocks, a strut tower brace and a front splitter are the only real differences? Oh and you get red calipers and a zl1 steering wheel. GM doesnt get it. The mustang gets a real track car, we get a heavier Camaro SS? WTF?
http://www.caranddriver.com/news/201...amaro-1le-news
http://www.caranddriver.com/news/201...amaro-1le-news
Dual Mode Exhaust
3.91 Gears
Strut Tower Brace
Upgraded ZL1 Wheel Bearings
Upgraded Half-Shafts
Upgraded Tow Links
Upgraded Fuel Pump w/additional pick-ups
Front Splitter
Unique Spoiler to 1LE
Upgraded Tires (285's all round/goodyear supercar tires on lighter ZL1 rims)
Tranny fluid cooler
Upgraded Sway Bars
Short-Throw Shifter
Upgraded Shocks and shock mounts
ZL1 Steering wheel
Get all that on a 1SS/base audio/no sunroof car and you'll be at or just below 3,800 pounds. Not too shabby at all considering some fourth gens (a much smaller car mind you) can weigh in at 3,600ish lbs when fully loaded.
It's the dumbasses who order the 1LE cars with leather, premium billion speaker sound system, and a body kit that are missing the mark IMO. This package shouldn't even be available on a 2SS IMO.
The Boss 302 gets:
Upgraded brembo brakes (still not as good as the standard 5th Gen SS brakes)
Upgraded power (14 more HP than the 1LE/SS, and acutally a reduction in peak torque from the standard GT)
Upgraded shocks
Dual Mode Exhaust
Short Throw Shifter
Electric power steering (standard on all new camaros)
Optional Recaro Seats
245 front/ 285 rear tires
The biggest advantage for the mustang it seems is the power upgrade. Other than that, they both pull over 1G on a skid pad and are priced about the same. They're both impressive, and on paper, it seems you actually get more "unique-ness" and upgrades with the 1LE over a boss302.
Last edited by MasterTomos; 07-19-2012 at 05:31 AM.
#5
If i had to pick im going with the boss,in sales the camaro has done great,but for us it kinda blows chunks, all we can hope is that the next gen makes the changes we all want, there not bad cars but we are simple we dont ask for much,but in this market when people hear 1le option they think they have bought the next best thing lol,we just know better
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The biggest advantage for the mustang it seems is the power upgrade. Other than that, they both pull over 1G on a skid pad and are priced about the same. They're both impressive, and on paper, it seems you actually get more "unique-ness" and upgrades with the 1LE over a boss302.
#7
that is standard on all V8 mustangs as well so both cars are closer in comparison than some people think. still the BOSS is lighter and makes more power but less tq which its gearing helps make up for. the BOSS's upgraded shocks are adjustable so that will help dial in the car for those who want to get the most out of the factory setup, but from what i've been told and read the camaro has better brakes out of the 2 cars.
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#9
The Boss is a lot more car it seems although with the 1LE package being $3500 you can't expect too much. And you're really discounting the engine modifications on the boss to say "o it only picks up 14 hp" ported heads, cams, intake, forged internals are not something to be taken lightly
#11
Exterior the Challenger wins and the 392 is quicker in the 1/4, but they are also more difficult to mod from what I've seen. Hell I think they just now cracked the pcm before that people were reverting to the old style computer systems just to tune them.
The Challenger is also a butt load more expensive. The difference in purchase price alone is enough to throw a bunch of bolt ons or a supercharger on the Camaro.
#12
I wouldn't get too exercised over 26lbs. I would if it didn't handle a bit better than the normal SS.
Will this be it or will they create a proper Z28 for this generation?
Will this be it or will they create a proper Z28 for this generation?
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#14
The biggest advantage for the mustang it seems is the power upgrade. Other than that, they both pull over 1G on a skid pad and are priced about the same. They're both impressive, and on paper, it seems you actually get more "unique-ness" and upgrades with the 1LE over a boss302.
Bottom line, the Boss is a completely separate model...the 1LE is just an optioned SS.
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#18
Well that sucks. I was hoping for atleast 450hp and a 50-100 pound weight loss on the 1le. I think the Dual mode exhaust,electric steering and 3.91 gear will make it a 12 second car though.
#19
If it was $3500 I think it is a very good value according to the link in post #13 gears, close ratio tr6060, and rims and tires. However the 1st link says a base model will come in just under 40k. So thats a 5 to 6 grand more. But still thats a ton of expensive upgrades.
#20
The close ratio trans and the gears has to make a big difference for a roll race.