Road and Track ZL1 vs GT500
08-02-2012, 09:50 PM
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No sir I never said the GT500 doesn't handle well I said that the way evolution motorsports built their car no longer allows it to track the way it would stock do you not agree?
08-02-2012, 09:55 PM
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Ok my mistake, I didn't see the "in this case" part. Yes, the way that particular car was setup was focused on drag racing at the expense of handling/braking.
08-02-2012, 10:48 PM
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So if you compare the cost of the ZL1+bigger blower it is about the same as a equally equipped GT500 no? Is there not a roughly 6-8000 dollar price difference between the two?
Now don't get me wrong I know the GT500 is a beast but at the same time when it comes down to dollar for dollar a blower swap would put them to about the same money but the ZL1 would problably make more power.
Now don't get me wrong I know the GT500 is a beast but at the same time when it comes down to dollar for dollar a blower swap would put them to about the same money but the ZL1 would problably make more power.
Utter bullshit.
08-02-2012, 11:52 PM
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08-03-2012, 08:07 AM
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Any. Once building bottom ends start it's over for the Ford. It simply can't get to 400+ci. and thus will not make the power.
08-03-2012, 08:24 AM
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The ZL1 needs all of those bolt-ons plus a ported blower, plus a better heat exchanger plus a heads/cam package to reach 700rwhp. News Flash: That cost WAY more than $2k.
08-03-2012, 08:48 AM
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.You guys act like this car is a god and can't be beat. Once built bottom ends are taking place it's all zl after that.
08-03-2012, 08:56 AM
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You think the only tunes for GT500 that make good power use race gas? And you also completely ignore the fact that the GT500 already has a built bottom end. You are trying so hard to make us agree with you. You can't use the "mod for mod" argument with so many stipulations.
08-03-2012, 09:01 AM
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The gt500 I have seen with a tune has used race gas or a mix. That as I have stated is off the table...atleast for me. Besides I don't care about dyno #. I want to close the acceleration gap. And news flash, price as tested the GT500 was 6k more. That leaves me some room to work with.
You guys act like this car is a god and can't be beat. Once built bottom ends are taking place it's all zl after that.
.You guys act like this car is a god and can't be beat. Once built bottom ends are taking place it's all zl after that.
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08-03-2012, 02:51 PM
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You think the only tunes for GT500 that make good power use race gas? And you also completely ignore the fact that the GT500 already has a built bottom end. You are trying so hard to make us agree with you. You can't use the "mod for mod" argument with so many stipulations.
At any rate there is much more room for making power left in the ZL than the gt500 imo.
08-03-2012, 03:25 PM
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The gt500 is running on 5lb more boost from the factory. It's not gonna go much more. That 5lb on the Zl is gonna close the gap significantly. Did'nt you guys think of that? Or do you just not want to admit it? I don't know where the blowers on each start to loose their efficiency and for sure the zl will need a blower change at some point, but that's easy enough on factory blower cars.
ZL1 would need a blower swap, heads, cam, full exhaust and a built bottom end to hang.
08-03-2012, 04:46 PM
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. This is why I say once the built bottoms start it's a done deal for the gt500. It's displacement is maxxed, the ZL has a long way to go in that department.
08-03-2012, 06:02 PM
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What kind of horsepower are we talking here?? There are 2.0L turbo engines making 1500+whp, which is about the limit for a street car, so what good is the 1 liter a built ZL1 will have on a built GT500 going to do? Did you forget about the whole boosted thing? If we were talking motor vs motor more cubes will win, but that is not at all the case here.
08-03-2012, 06:09 PM
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Dude, stop riding GM's *******, you sound like an uneducated idiot. Everyone but you apparently knows the safe limit of the LSA and of the 5.4 (5.8).
08-04-2012, 06:38 AM
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What kind of horsepower are we talking here?? There are 2.0L turbo engines making 1500+whp, which is about the limit for a street car, so what good is the 1 liter a built ZL1 will have on a built GT500 going to do? Did you forget about the whole boosted thing? If we were talking motor vs motor more cubes will win, but that is not at all the case here.
As I have said both are great cars, I don't know how that is nutswinging. But the ZL has more potential left in it. That's just the facts.
