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mustangs up. its going down to the end.



http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=263902

Z Fury

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I'm too lazy to look, but is the Mustang being discounted for model year-end? I know GM is putting little/no discounts on the Camaro...

BrntWS6

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Haha....poor, fat, overpriced Challenger bringing up the rear.

jmurray87

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So basically who ever takes December takes the year....GM better start getting some deals out on the Camaro it seems to work for Ford.

Challengers seem to be selling quite well, Dodge never intended for the car to be a huge seller like the Camaro/Mustang.

It'llrun

The Camaro has a better chance at being the overall best seller of the year, but many are thinking the same thing about later. Clearly, it's obvious that many people believe the car is dated in looks. That will change, but GM is definitely dragging it to the end.

Johnnystock

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I can tell that GM dont wanna sell Camaro up here; non promotion whatsoever and worst finance rates. Bravo!

Z Fury

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That and the base price has increased every year so far. Constantly bumping the base price + no incentives + crap financing rates = lower sales.

I'm not sure how much the Mustang prices have gone up since 2011 pricing.

It'llrun

I just looked on chevy.com at a comparison in which they claim the SS 1SS($32,280) starting price is more than $2,500 above the Mustang GT($29,710) for 2012 models.

"Competitively" equipped, GM says the SS would cost $33,180 vs $30,505 for the GT and $30,990 for the Challenger R/T! $2,000 plus is more than many wanna spend, incentives or not. There's also a roughly(if not exact, but it's their site, so...) $2,500 difference between 2013 V6 models and there's still a big difference in the 1SS vs GT, each having gone up some. The SS starts at $32,635 while the GT price begins at $30,300. So the price gap has lowered, but probably not enough in the scheme of things. Again, "competitively equipped," the SS is nearly $2,500 more. Financing isn't really an issue. I'd never use a dealer to finance a new vehicle unless my credit union disappeared or the dealer offered 0% or something else much better than the normal sources.

By the tame token, the GM site says the Challenger for 2013 is still a 373hp car, which we all know is way off without even looking it up. It also lists the GT's hp at 412. The odd thing I noted on the Ford side is, no bonus available for Mustang. There is a $500 incentive available for the Camaro, but considering how much more it costs to start, that's only 25% of the way to worthwhile.

chaman

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Not a surprise to me.

raymond mckinney

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I drove a 2013 1ss this week and it had Nav,hurst,hud and was only 32k and they offered me 1k off and another 1k off if I traded in another Chevrolet product. Beat if i was trying I could of got it for 29k out the door.

ULTIMATEORANGESS

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GM is also offering a $1500 redemption allowance on 5th gens. if you have a GM card with enough points built up. that's weak because i have way more than that. when i almost bought one about 6 months ago they were offering 2k in points plus a $500 loyalty bonus.

its obvious theyre trying to win this sales war but theyre going to have to try harder to get my money.

It'llrun

This is a surprise to me, as I don't go looking at cars on the lot much, but the chevy site says you can't even get HUD on a 1SS. I just tried to build it too, and I couldn't find HUD, but with NAV and AFM(requiring auto) the price was over 35k, no other upgrades included. The 2SS was over 37k without picking a single option.

If you can get a new 2013 with HUD and NAV for under 30k, I recommend the purchase... if you want a new SS, anyway. At that price, GM is clearly trying about as hard as it can to nearly GIVE AWAY the Camaro. Perhaps if the bean counters weren't such idiots, they'd simply lower the initial price and have less give to give... having started at a more reasonable price, they'd almost surely sell many more.

ULTIMATEORANGESS

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ive priced a few 2SSs fairly loaded and remember GMs profit margins not being that high.

at least thats the info i had from edmunds or KBB or both i cant remember right now.

i want a 1le or maybe an ls7 if that info is accurate.

Rated Z

Yeah at my local chevy dealer they are offering no discounts or promotions! They need to if they want to sell!

SparkyJJO

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When's the next gen slated to be revealed? I forget. Maybe that has something to do with it. They have sold a gazillion of these cars already, in a less-than-favorable economy, which is pretty darn impressive. But now maybe people are starting to wonder about the next upgrade. I want to see what the 6th gen is supposed to be like (and GM had better not screw it up). Although at the same time, my 4th gen isn't going anywhere.

Zlow28

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Hopefully they dont overhype the next gen camaro long before its released kinda like the current 5th gens. Those were outdated before they were released. Especially the ZL1.