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Old 01-09-2013, 01:42 PM
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Note to self...

Don't start a thread comparing the ZL1 to the GT500...
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Originally Posted by HioSSilver
The gt500 don't have the content for lap after lap track days. It lacks the coolers for it. I was going off price as tested because the cars in the mag have all been optioned for optimal performance, says that right there in black and white. BTW all you have to do is watch the video's on these cars and it is easy to see which car handles better.....I don't need a mag for that. Funny how the mph keeps goin down for the ZL and up for the gt500 according to you.
I've never once denied the ZL1 is the better handling car. I said the GT500 can match and better its lap times. If road course racing was only about handling nothing would run faster lap times than a Miata.

I was talking about these two in a drag race,not road course. That was my point when saying I would never pay for the handling package being that I would never race it on a road course.

The only reason why the MPH is going up is because I pulled a you bringing up modding with money saved.

The GT500 is a 125-128mph car all year long. If you don't think that car can pick up 12mph with a tune,pulley, and nitrous you're drunk of the kool-aid.

The ZL1 is a 113mph car mid summer and a 118mph car mid winter. With a very rare 120mph pass here and there.
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I love how yet another thread about these to some how turns into a dicusion based on its ability at the drag strip. Isn't this a thread on it's times on a road course? Is there any proof that clearly states the gt500 was ran on a wet/damp track or is that just speculation coming from svtpp? Like I said before if that's true then I agree the results are pointless but nobody has been able to produce any factual information to that rumor.

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Originally Posted by GotHemi?
I've never once denied the ZL1 is the better handling car. I said the GT500 can match and better its lap times. If road course racing was only about handling nothing would run faster lap times than a Miata.

I was talking about these two in a drag race,not road course. That was my point when saying I would never pay for the handling package being that I would never race it on a road course.

The only reason why the MPH is going up is because I pulled a you bringing up modding with money saved.

The GT500 is a 125-128mph car all year long. If you don't think that car can pick up 12mph with a tune,pulley, and nitrous you're drunk of the kool-aid.

The ZL1 is a 113mph car mid summer and a 118mph car mid winter. With a very rare 120mph pass here and there.
Hell could'nt any supercharged car pick up 12mph with a tune pulley and nitrous???? You act like it's doing something miraculous. Hell I bet the ZL would pick up more than that. It's got way more room to move on the boost front. I have only seen 1 test where the gt500 went 128. All the others have been 122-125.

I have also ALWAYS beat posted mag times with my GM cars. I see know reason why it would'nt go faster also.

Also as poster above said this is a roadcoarse thread.....read title.
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Humm 113 in the summer ! well i guess you would consider 90 degrees winter cause my zl1 turned 118 with 900 miles on the clock.
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Originally Posted by chevydan
Humm 113 in the summer ! well i guess you would consider 90 degrees winter cause my zl1 turned 118 with 900 miles on the clock.
Come on man....stop it. Your gonna ruin these guys day talkin like that.
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Originally Posted by chevydan
Humm 113 in the summer ! well i guess you would consider 90 degrees winter cause my zl1 turned 118 with 900 miles on the clock.
With or without the rotofab intake listed in your signature?
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Without roto was x-mas gift from wife
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Originally Posted by chevydan
Without roto was x-mas gift from wife
Nice! I envy you, your signature is bullshit. Enjoy that car!
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Well driven GT500's in decent air are running 126-127+.
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Any reason to own two GT500s and two GTRs??

I don't question owning the cars, but you obviously have enough $$ to own more cars than most, why not mix it up with other cars rather than multiples of the same ones?
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I split time between my houses in Florida and New Jersey.
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Originally Posted by NW-99SS
Any reason to own two GT500s and two GTRs??

I don't question owning the cars, but you obviously have enough $$ to own more cars than most, why not mix it up with other cars rather than multiples of the same ones?
A better question is, why not? lol
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Well driven GT500's in decent air are running 126-127+.
That's about what I'd figured they'd be able to do.
Sean, you sold the Viper I assume?
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Originally Posted by Redfire 03
A better question is, why not? lol
Lol, I guess I just like more variety than others
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Originally Posted by Snorman
I split time between my houses in Florida and New Jersey.
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Well excuse us then... j/k

What ET and mph have you guys seen in hot weather? Curious to know how different weather affects the performance on those cars. I have to believe it's the same for the GT500. The ZL1 is sensitive to heat soak and really wakes up in cool weather. When I dyno'd mine it did 513 rwhp right off the street and 535 rwhp after a cool down. I will hit the track this Spring, but I will be happy to run a high 11.
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Originally Posted by LS1LT1
That's about what I'd figured they'd be able to do.
Sean, you sold the Viper I assume?
Hey Marc...hope all is well.
Viper is gone, I sold it to the owner of a Viper performance shop out west who was extremely happy with the car. Sold my turbo Buick too.
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Originally Posted by DrkPhx
Well excuse us then... j/k

What ET and mph have you guys seen in hot weather? Curious to know how different weather affects the performance on those cars. I have to believe it's the same for the GT500. The ZL1 is sensitive to heat soak and really wakes up in cool weather. When I dyno'd mine it did 513 rwhp right off the street and 535 rwhp after a cool down. I will hit the track this Spring, but I will be happy to run a high 11.
Bear in mind that I started racing my car in Orlando in August during the horrible Florida summer (for racing, at least). But the car still ran ~123-4 mph. As I have continued running it and the temps have moderated, it has gone faster and I have learned to work with what Ford gave us with these cars in terms of launch control and the "electronic powertrain feature", otherwise known as "clutch protection". I ran 4-5 127+ mph passes the same day at OSW in ~50* air. I would imagine they will run faster up in the northeast in the late fall or early spring.
Ford also has a parameter in the PCM that will heavily restrict power until the coolant temp hits 170*, which means you can't roll a cold car to the line and make a pass. I actually trapped 109 like this once, then hotlapped it and ran 124.
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Originally Posted by Snorman
Sold my turbo Buick too.
Yeah that was a cool car as well, one of only the very few turbo Regals that I've ever ridden in (the Toms River days many years ago ).



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