The Z/28 is Back for 2014 - LS7 427, no frills, ceramic brakes, Recaros, less weight
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So this car is 300lbs less than the zl1. Making it bout the same as an ss? And pushing 500hp not bad. Sounds bout like a low 12 second car. I read the ac is optiona if im correct. Is the radio/with speakers Also optional? I thought i read there wouldnt be a radio but im not sure. Can someone chime in on this please. Thankyou
Ps I also dont care for the tail lights much but thats just one mans opinion. No big deal![Happy](https://ls1tech.com/forums/images/smilies/LS1Tech/gr_stretch.gif)
But im sure ill soon get used to them.
Ps I also dont care for the tail lights much but thats just one mans opinion. No big deal
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But im sure ill soon get used to them.
The more i think of it, the more it seems GM threw this car together kinda half-assed. As someone else mentioned, its a "stripper" car that weighs around 3800? Doesnt sound ideal for the track nor a conveniant car to DD.
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im sure it will be tolerable for everyday use for the most part.
funny how this platform continues to overachieve and far exceed what a lot on here claimed it was really capable of when it was first released.
when an actual road test of this car is revealed i expect it to silence even more critics.
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The boss, gt, and m6 SS are lighter than that and they all include radio and AC. I now theyre different classes, but thats not what i expect by "lightweight."
Eitherway, nice car, but i dont see it selling unless its a limited production car.
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But regardless of the zl1's weight, if im driving a stripper car with no ac or radio, id at LEAST expect it to be under 3500 lbs.
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Ive also seen other people weigh their zl1 at right under 4100lbs. But GM isnt making their calculations off of those numbers. Theyre using magazine numbers which show it weighs over 4100lbs.
But regardless of the zl1's weight, if im driving a stripper car with no ac or radio, id at LEAST expect it to be under 3500 lbs.
But regardless of the zl1's weight, if im driving a stripper car with no ac or radio, id at LEAST expect it to be under 3500 lbs.
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Thing is people are missing is GM never said this is a "lightweight" car they simply started that they took some weight off. They are well aware of the fact the car is on the heavy side compared to its rival Mustang but that's just the way it is and will be for the rest of this generation. Quite frankly as I have said 100s of times in the past this car performs dam good even with its weight.
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Pull the rear seats out, swap out the heavy stock exhaust and you'll lose another 150 lbs and your now at 3650lbs. Not sure how heavy those 19's are but throw some lighter wheels on it and save another 50-75 lbs and now your in the 35xx's. Take it to the track and have fun.
I'm thinking hard about buying one next year, very tempted
I'm thinking hard about buying one next year, very tempted
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From the looks, this car will be all about limited production. It will be nice if GM makes several thousand, but idonno... the lack of things isn't for any normal production Chevy, that's for sure. Pricing is probably going to eclipse the ZL1 and that would ensure limited sales.
I hope I'm "reading" this wrong. It would be really nice to have a Z/28 with the typical 1SS appointments... and that superior engine. That setup could sell for a thousand or two more than the SS and make many happy customers.
I hope I'm "reading" this wrong. It would be really nice to have a Z/28 with the typical 1SS appointments... and that superior engine. That setup could sell for a thousand or two more than the SS and make many happy customers.
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I was excited when I first saw this announcement as the weight of the 5th gen had me completely turned off since day 1 and I had been hoping for an LS7 option.
But seeing that it will cost almost what a Z06 costs and still be a heavy pig despite being "stripped" ended that enthusiasm instantly.
.........sigh
COnsidering how fast Z06s depreciate (been shopping around a bit lately, ultra clean 09s with 8-15k miles can be had for 48-52K) I could never see buying a Camaro over one.
But seeing that it will cost almost what a Z06 costs and still be a heavy pig despite being "stripped" ended that enthusiasm instantly.
.........sigh
COnsidering how fast Z06s depreciate (been shopping around a bit lately, ultra clean 09s with 8-15k miles can be had for 48-52K) I could never see buying a Camaro over one.
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From the looks, this car will be all about limited production. It will be nice if GM makes several thousand, but idonno... the lack of things isn't for any normal production Chevy, that's for sure. Pricing is probably going to eclipse the ZL1 and that would ensure limited sales.
I hope I'm "reading" this wrong. It would be really nice to have a Z/28 with the typical 1SS appointments... and that superior engine. That setup could sell for a thousand or two more than the SS and make many happy customers.
I hope I'm "reading" this wrong. It would be really nice to have a Z/28 with the typical 1SS appointments... and that superior engine. That setup could sell for a thousand or two more than the SS and make many happy customers.
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Most of us here are car guys, not money guys.
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I see your point(I think) and have asked myself in the past, what GM was thinking. As I've gotten a bit older though, I have basically concluded, they're looking to make money and the way to do that is to sell what people want to buy, at a price they can pay... Hence, a real lack of limited production vehicles. For me, this really makes great business sense. The few holdouts would be cars like the ZR1. I haven't tracked these insofar as production numbers, but if GM manages them as Ford did the GT, they'll become a historic American automobile, to say the least.
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this car is going to do everything well and look good doing it.
im sure it will be tolerable for everyday use for the most part.
funny how this platform continues to overachieve and far exceed what a lot on here claimed it was really capable of when it was first released.
when an actual road test of this car is revealed i expect it to silence even more critics.
im sure it will be tolerable for everyday use for the most part.
funny how this platform continues to overachieve and far exceed what a lot on here claimed it was really capable of when it was first released.
when an actual road test of this car is revealed i expect it to silence even more critics.
I still think it is going to shock a lot of people with the price. It is going to be expensive. The rotors alone cost over $1700 EACH for the ZR1. Then think of the seats and motor along with all of the other subtle changes. It will be spendy. I kind of like it, but for the drag or street race guys, the ZL1 will still be the better bet. and HCI LS7 is probably around 600ish whp, at least my buddis ZO6 that LG built was, which is less than what simple bolt ons will make on the Zl1. Not to mention if you did heads and cam on the ZL1 also.
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GM needs to stop putting tires with an aspect ratio of less than 40 on cars that people want to drive daily. These should be an optional package for those that are going to treat it like a trailer queen. I had so many flats on my GXP due to these dumb *** low profile tires.
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Streetability is pretty subjective. I am sure this car will be just fine.
I still think it is going to shock a lot of people with the price. It is going to be expensive. The rotors alone cost over $1700 EACH for the ZR1. Then think of the seats and motor along with all of the other subtle changes. It will be spendy. I kind of like it, but for the drag or street race guys, the ZL1 will still be the better bet. and HCI LS7 is probably around 600ish whp, at least my buddis ZO6 that LG built was, which is less than what simple bolt ons will make on the Zl1. Not to mention if you did heads and cam on the ZL1 also.
I still think it is going to shock a lot of people with the price. It is going to be expensive. The rotors alone cost over $1700 EACH for the ZR1. Then think of the seats and motor along with all of the other subtle changes. It will be spendy. I kind of like it, but for the drag or street race guys, the ZL1 will still be the better bet. and HCI LS7 is probably around 600ish whp, at least my buddis ZO6 that LG built was, which is less than what simple bolt ons will make on the Zl1. Not to mention if you did heads and cam on the ZL1 also.
as far as power goes remember a z28 is considerably lighter than a zl1.
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Until Chevy releases something it is all hearsay and speculation but on another board someone at the unveiling says they were told it would be more than a ZL1.
ZL1s start at 56,650 so 60k or more seems likely.
EDITED: Added correct ZL1 base price
Last edited by 91Z28; 04-01-2013 at 07:26 PM.