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Old 04-02-2013, 11:12 PM
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Originally Posted by thunderstruck507
Any once else consider that this (along with the C6 427 convertibles) are low production specialty cars just trying to burn up excess LS7 inventory?

The c6 is officially dead so no more Z06s are being made but they probably still have a lot of extra parts and there is probably a higher profit on selling them in a specialty car (which also burns up more inventory and counts towards vehicle sales) than as crate engines.

Plus the cars themselves are excellent "halo" cars for public relations
I believe I read somewhere (just a rumor, but who knows) that the LS7 wil carry over into the C7 Z06, at least for a few years. It gets decent mileage, makes more power than the LT1, dry-sump oil setup, I think it's a definite possibility.
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Originally Posted by MasterTomos
I believe I read somewhere (just a rumor, but who knows) that the LS7 wil carry over into the C7 Z06, at least for a few years. It gets decent mileage, makes more power than the LT1, dry-sump oil setup, I think it's a definite possibility.
The rumor article I read said it would be a ls7 style engine but it will be getting a HP bump to either 550-600hp depending where the ZR1 engine falls (meaning they will make the new ZR1 powerplant and see if it makes 650,675, or 700hp and the new Z06 engine will get it's power based on a spread)
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Originally Posted by nanokpsi
The tires on the z28 are R compound tires that are not recomended for wet weather use. They are vastly superior to F1 supercars in the zl1.
Okay then... I guess the Trofeo R really is worth 3 seconds over the PZero...

No, for the record, I don't believe that for 3 seconds!
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Originally Posted by thunderstruck507
Any once else consider that this (along with the C6 427 convertibles) are low production specialty cars just trying to burn up excess LS7 inventory?

The c6 is officially dead so no more Z06s are being made but they probably still have a lot of extra parts and there is probably a higher profit on selling them in a specialty car (which also burns up more inventory and counts towards vehicle sales) than as crate engines.

Plus the cars themselves are excellent "halo" cars for public relations
If that was the case, I'd have hoped they would have dropped the LS7 in the new SS sedan, since that's supposed to be a halo-type car as well. Oh well, one can dream...
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Originally Posted by LS1_Disciple
If that was the case, I'd have hoped they would have dropped the LS7 in the new SS sedan, since that's supposed to be a halo-type car as well. Oh well, one can dream...
It's also a much more boring car in general and likely meant for higher production numbers than the Z/28.
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Originally Posted by It'llrun
Okay then... I guess the Trofeo R really is worth 3 seconds over the PZero...

No, for the record, I don't believe that for 3 seconds!
Reading comprehension is > you


The 3 second time period is a comparison to how much faster the Z28 is per lap on a road course compared to the ZL1. The Zl1 comes with Good Year Supercar F1 tires. The Z28 comes with a true "R" compound tire that is not recomended for wet weather use. There is a big difference in those two tires, which I garuntee is a large factor in that time difference.

You are also looking at about 530-550 per tire, and I assure you they will not last very long.
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You have to look at this new Z28 as more of a street legal factory race car rather than as a track oriented standard production trim model. Once you wrap your head around that fact, then the low production numbers and high asking prices make sense. I would have preferred a MRC equipped 1LE priced out around the mid 40's for the new 28 (to compete directly with the Boss), but I guess GM figured they'd take a play out of a completely different playbook on this one.
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Originally Posted by thunderstruck507
It's also a much more boring car in general and likely meant for higher production numbers than the Z/28.
Do you not think an LS7 would make it less boring?

Originally Posted by nanokpsi
Reading comprehension is > you


The 3 second time period is a comparison to how much faster the Z28 is per lap on a road course compared to the ZL1. The Zl1 comes with Good Year Supercar F1 tires. The Z28 comes with a true "R" compound tire that is not recomended for wet weather use. There is a big difference in those two tires, which I garuntee is a large factor in that time difference.

You are also looking at about 530-550 per tire, and I assure you they will not last very long.
Just go read up on these tires as opposed to those on the ZL1, etc.

PS If reading comprehension is > me... Why can I actually spell words like "recommended" and "guarantee" while you cannot? In the future, I recommend you pick on your little sister...
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I really hope this car will be at or lower than ZL1 prices. It would be dumb to have the Z/28 more expensive than a good vette. But I think GM should build the Z/28 with radio options and other accessories. I know they want weight reductions but some people including myself would love this car with options and a kick *** powertrain. If they made the car like that in Synergy Green...sign me up.
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Originally Posted by thunderstruck507
It's also a much more boring car in general and likely meant for higher production numbers than the Z/28.
They aren't selling any models that use the LS7 in Australia/New Zealand, that's why it's not in the Super Sport sedan. That car will use whatever Holden is already selling in their market which is the L76/LS3 right now and likely the LT1 in the near future.
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Originally Posted by It'llrun
Do you not think an LS7 would make it less boring?
Perhaps to some, but not to me. In a lot of ways the SS is supposed to be superior to the G8...but the G8 was a less boring car IMO. Had a nice presence to it.
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Originally Posted by LS1_Disciple
If that was the case, I'd have hoped they would have dropped the LS7 in the new SS sedan, since that's supposed to be a halo-type car as well. Oh well, one can dream...
If HSV chooses to build a second generation W427 based on the VF platform, it's likely. Although I expect them to use the upcoming LT4 which is said to power the 6th gen Camaro Z28.
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Does anyone have any insight if I will be able to get the LS7 in the SS model? I want a 2014 Camaro that not all stripped down. I want A/C, GPS, ummm and a stereo....
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No LS7 in the SS model.
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Originally Posted by RedHotG8
No LS7 in the SS model.
What a bummer...Dam GM...very people people want a stripped down car.
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Originally Posted by badazz81z28
What a bummer...Dam GM...very people people want a stripped down car.
And probably very few as well...
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You can get a/c it is optional! Throw in a 100.00 dollar head unit and ride out.
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Originally Posted by It'llrun
And probably very few as well...
I would buy an SS in a heart-beat if I could get the LS7. The LS3 isn't powerful enough for me...and I'm not into modding new cars. I want it fast out of the box, but not at the sacrifice of options.
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I read somewhere that this car is going to be in the 50k range. I believe it was from R&D or Motor Trend not sure. However best bet is to just wait and see. Regardless what the price is GM is gonna make a killing on this car for the simple fact of its name. I know if I had the money I would buy it. Hell its a better buy than the ZL1 to be honest. Both the ZL1 and this Z/28 run the 1/4 in low 12s so to say the ZL1 is a beast of a car um not really considering it has a S/C. Id much rather buy the Z/28 because we all have seen what a C6 Z06 can do with a H/C/I mod to it. So you can only imagine what this car can do. Id say look to see this car slightly below the Zl1 but more than the 1LE SS. Is that a fair judgment?
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Zl1 has run a mid 11 on a tire. heads cam pulleys went 9s by Livernois pretty impressive to me.

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