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Old 03-30-2013, 08:28 PM
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Originally Posted by william's SS
So this car is 300lbs less than the zl1. Making it bout the same as an ss? And pushing 500hp not bad. Sounds bout like a low 12 second car. I read the ac is optiona if im correct. Is the radio/with speakers Also optional? I thought i read there wouldnt be a radio but im not sure. Can someone chime in on this please. Thankyou



Ps I also dont care for the tail lights much but thats just one mans opinion. No big deal
But im sure ill soon get used to them.
the stereo is not optional. Only the AC.

The more i think of it, the more it seems GM threw this car together kinda half-assed. As someone else mentioned, its a "stripper" car that weighs around 3800? Doesnt sound ideal for the track nor a conveniant car to DD.
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Originally Posted by Zlow28
the stereo is not optional. Only the AC.

The more i think of it, the more it seems GM threw this car together kinda half-assed. As someone else mentioned, its a "stripper" car that weighs around 3800? Doesnt sound ideal for the track nor a conveniant car to DD.
If its 100 less than the ss, its closer to 3700. My auto ss was 3860, the manual is lighter supposedly by 100lbs.

Eitherway, why is everyone so concerned about weight, when the car is beating up cars lighter than it?
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Originally Posted by ss1129
If its 100 less than the ss, its closer to 3700. My auto ss was 3860, the manual is lighter supposedly by 100lbs.

Eitherway, why is everyone so concerned about weight, when the car is beating up cars lighter than it?
this car is going to do everything well and look good doing it.


im sure it will be tolerable for everyday use for the most part.


funny how this platform continues to overachieve and far exceed what a lot on here claimed it was really capable of when it was first released.


when an actual road test of this car is revealed i expect it to silence even more critics.
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Originally Posted by ss1129
If its 100 less than the ss, its closer to 3700. My auto ss was 3860, the manual is lighter supposedly by 100lbs.

Eitherway, why is everyone so concerned about weight, when the car is beating up cars lighter than it?
where did you read it was 100lbs less than the ss? It said it was 300lbs lighter than the zl1. If the zl1 weighs in at 4120lbs, that puts the new z28 at around 3800lbs, which according to you, is still heavier than a manual SS.

The boss, gt, and m6 SS are lighter than that and they all include radio and AC. I now theyre different classes, but thats not what i expect by "lightweight."

Eitherway, nice car, but i dont see it selling unless its a limited production car.
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I owned a 2011 1ss and now own a 2013 zl1. The 1ss weighed in at 3742 with a 1/4 tank in it and my 2013 zl tipped the scales at 4027 with a 1/4 tank in it.
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Originally Posted by chevydan
I owned a 2011 1ss and now own a 2013 zl1. The 1ss weighed in at 3742 with a 1/4 tank in it and my 2013 zl tipped the scales at 4027 with a 1/4 tank in it.
Ive also seen other people weigh their zl1 at right under 4100lbs. But GM isnt making their calculations off of those numbers. Theyre using magazine numbers which show it weighs over 4100lbs.

But regardless of the zl1's weight, if im driving a stripper car with no ac or radio, id at LEAST expect it to be under 3500 lbs.
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Originally Posted by Zlow28
Ive also seen other people weigh their zl1 at right under 4100lbs. But GM isnt making their calculations off of those numbers. Theyre using magazine numbers which show it weighs over 4100lbs.

But regardless of the zl1's weight, if im driving a stripper car with no ac or radio, id at LEAST expect it to be under 3500 lbs.
i guess GM couldve deleted all seating besides the drivers and carpeting and used CF body panels to get to that weight but at what cost to driveability and price?
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Thing is people are missing is GM never said this is a "lightweight" car they simply started that they took some weight off. They are well aware of the fact the car is on the heavy side compared to its rival Mustang but that's just the way it is and will be for the rest of this generation. Quite frankly as I have said 100s of times in the past this car performs dam good even with its weight.
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Pull the rear seats out, swap out the heavy stock exhaust and you'll lose another 150 lbs and your now at 3650lbs. Not sure how heavy those 19's are but throw some lighter wheels on it and save another 50-75 lbs and now your in the 35xx's. Take it to the track and have fun.

I'm thinking hard about buying one next year, very tempted
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I'll be waiting for the 6th gen Z28..
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From the looks, this car will be all about limited production. It will be nice if GM makes several thousand, but idonno... the lack of things isn't for any normal production Chevy, that's for sure. Pricing is probably going to eclipse the ZL1 and that would ensure limited sales.

I hope I'm "reading" this wrong. It would be really nice to have a Z/28 with the typical 1SS appointments... and that superior engine. That setup could sell for a thousand or two more than the SS and make many happy customers.
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If this thing is truly priced as high as a lot of you are thinking, I'm back to waiting on the 6th Gen or a slightly used C7.
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I was excited when I first saw this announcement as the weight of the 5th gen had me completely turned off since day 1 and I had been hoping for an LS7 option.

But seeing that it will cost almost what a Z06 costs and still be a heavy pig despite being "stripped" ended that enthusiasm instantly.

.........sigh

COnsidering how fast Z06s depreciate (been shopping around a bit lately, ultra clean 09s with 8-15k miles can be had for 48-52K) I could never see buying a Camaro over one.
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Originally Posted by It'llrun
From the looks, this car will be all about limited production. It will be nice if GM makes several thousand, but idonno... the lack of things isn't for any normal production Chevy, that's for sure. Pricing is probably going to eclipse the ZL1 and that would ensure limited sales.

I hope I'm "reading" this wrong. It would be really nice to have a Z/28 with the typical 1SS appointments... and that superior engine. That setup could sell for a thousand or two more than the SS and make many happy customers.
One of GM's biggest issues IMO is that they overproduce cars that should be very special. If the production of the Z/28 stays low like the BOSS 302 or G8 GXP they should have really good resale, unlike the ZO6.
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Originally Posted by TriShield
One of GM's biggest issues IMO is that they overproduce cars that should be very special. If the production of the Z/28 stays low like the BOSS 302 or G8 GXP they should have really good resale, unlike the ZO6.
Yeah, but which of us who's looking to buy a used one, actually wants to know it has a high resale? As you said here(and many others have said), the ZO6 doesn't have really high resale. To me, that can seriously affect the number of owners and thereby, future fans...

Most of us here are car guys, not money guys.

I see your point(I think) and have asked myself in the past, what GM was thinking. As I've gotten a bit older though, I have basically concluded, they're looking to make money and the way to do that is to sell what people want to buy, at a price they can pay... Hence, a real lack of limited production vehicles. For me, this really makes great business sense. The few holdouts would be cars like the ZR1. I haven't tracked these insofar as production numbers, but if GM manages them as Ford did the GT, they'll become a historic American automobile, to say the least.
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Originally Posted by ULTIMATEORANGESS
this car is going to do everything well and look good doing it.


im sure it will be tolerable for everyday use for the most part.


funny how this platform continues to overachieve and far exceed what a lot on here claimed it was really capable of when it was first released.


when an actual road test of this car is revealed i expect it to silence even more critics.
Streetability is pretty subjective. I am sure this car will be just fine.

I still think it is going to shock a lot of people with the price. It is going to be expensive. The rotors alone cost over $1700 EACH for the ZR1. Then think of the seats and motor along with all of the other subtle changes. It will be spendy. I kind of like it, but for the drag or street race guys, the ZL1 will still be the better bet. and HCI LS7 is probably around 600ish whp, at least my buddis ZO6 that LG built was, which is less than what simple bolt ons will make on the Zl1. Not to mention if you did heads and cam on the ZL1 also.
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GM needs to stop putting tires with an aspect ratio of less than 40 on cars that people want to drive daily. These should be an optional package for those that are going to treat it like a trailer queen. I had so many flats on my GXP due to these dumb *** low profile tires.
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Originally Posted by nanokpsi
Streetability is pretty subjective. I am sure this car will be just fine.

I still think it is going to shock a lot of people with the price. It is going to be expensive. The rotors alone cost over $1700 EACH for the ZR1. Then think of the seats and motor along with all of the other subtle changes. It will be spendy. I kind of like it, but for the drag or street race guys, the ZL1 will still be the better bet. and HCI LS7 is probably around 600ish whp, at least my buddis ZO6 that LG built was, which is less than what simple bolt ons will make on the Zl1. Not to mention if you did heads and cam on the ZL1 also.
sadly i think this car is going to start at around 50k. thats too much for me.

as far as power goes remember a z28 is considerably lighter than a zl1.
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Originally Posted by ULTIMATEORANGESS
sadly i think this car is going to start at around 50k. thats too much for me.

as far as power goes remember a z28 is considerably lighter than a zl1.

Until Chevy releases something it is all hearsay and speculation but on another board someone at the unveiling says they were told it would be more than a ZL1.

ZL1s start at 56,650 so 60k or more seems likely.

EDITED: Added correct ZL1 base price

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Originally Posted by 91Z28
Until Chevy releases something it is all hearsay and speculation but on another board someone at the unveiling says they were told it would be more than a ZL1.

ZL1s start at 54,999 so 60k or more seems likely.
i know it has a lot of upgrades but i dont remember the same vehicle costing more having less power.


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