dailydriver

Yeah, but how many actual, true "ricers" have that much coin laying around to spend (or could even qualify to borrow it)??

bboyferal

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^ Yeah, that's why the R32 - R34 production models have always run circles around several more expensive cars on the 'Ring... I was being very critical of the bold and unlikely estimates for the new GTR in this thread, but the fact remains that it will be a GT FASTER THAN ANY mass-produced American car on a circuit except for the C6 Z06 (waiting on the upcoming Viper's new model) AND faster than MANY European cars that may cost much more... Ricer's wet dream? I guess I'm a ricer then.

BADMOFO

Plenty of "Ricers" with wealthy parents. There are a bunch of Civics and **** around here with $40k to $50k wrapped up in them easy, believe it or not, so I can see them selling some. As for the "$94k for a Datsun" comment, apparently you haven't driven an Infiniti or late model Maxima lately, it's a far cry from a B210. We have a 99 Maxima w/ 88k miles on the clock that is as tight and rattle free as the day we bought it. How many 8 year old 88k mile Vette's could say the same? As for me, I'd take the Z06 over it in a milisecond, but still recognize it as a sweet ride. I think the rear wing looks rediculous, and prob. could have been configured to do the same job and be half as ugly. I read a quote today in someone's sig that cracked me up, and is somewhat appropriate here, "Racing an import is like coming out of the closet....Even if you win, you're still gay"....or something like that. I like it for what it is, and you can look around and see how many Skylines and Supra's are holding big boost and making big HP on stock shortblocks, and it makes it tought to argue their dependability. It wouldn't be my choice for the money tho.

Hydramatic

+1

The Skyline has always been due some respect in my book. The king of imports, so to say. In fact, I don't really consider any of the 'good' Japanese GT's to be rice-burners at all, simply for the fact that most ricers don't have the cash to drive them. I'm talking RX-7s, Supras, 3000GT VR4s, Skylines, 300ZX TTs, SC300s, etc. The point is, give respect where respect is due.

TT632

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There is no way the GTR can live up to years of afficionado's holding it up to an unreachable status. I drove several GTRs when I was at Nissan's Arizona Test Center in the 90's. I was very disappointed because of the very high expectations not being met. If it was presented as a equal of the Supra, Corvette or Porsche I would have most likely not expected it to have god like qualities.
False rumors and innuendo are just leading up to a let down. The expectation now is for it to beat a formula 1 car around the Nürburgring ring . It's probably worth more to Nissan as a carrot than actually bringing one to market in the US. If they do bring it to the US market and it is not able to beat a Z06, Viper or a Ford GT it will probably have the same 7 year life span as the 300ZX turbo.

I'll stick by my previous statement that the low end GTR will most likely be beat the new Z28 Camaro and the high end GTR will be beaten by the new Z06 at that time.

dailydriver

Yeah, that's funny! It's kind of like the "telephone game" all of the little Supra worshipping ricekidzz play with the 2JZGTEs. You know, where they say **** like, "so and so (fill in the name of your fave MKIV tuner) got 2500rwhp out of a STOCK bottom end 2JZ, pushing 50+ lbs. of boost, on 91 octane, with a crappy tune".
Then all the little F***TARDS really start actually believing it and quoting it as gospel!

01sscam

Overpriced rice.

Gloveperson

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The Z-car has been around for well more than seven years. It will have been produced (not counting 2000-2002 (model years) when none were produced) from the 1969 model year till present.

Hydramatic

I'm still waiting for a 350Z 2+2.

germeezy1

You guys are nuts for anything close to $100k I would be building a 427 TT Ultima GTR which no Skyline could touch on the street or track!

RedBeauty84ZX

Thats called the Infiniti G Coupe. It appears Nissan has went back to its roots with the Z-Car and no longer offers a 2+2 variant like with previous Z-Cars. Other then styling the Infiniti G35/G37 Coupes are 95% identical to the Z with nicer interiors/more options etc.

RedBeauty84ZX

The GTR EVO will be a much more limited version of the GTR and its possible it may never even make it state side. 90% of the GTRs sold will be in standard and Spec V models which are priced similar to the Z06.

TT632

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In my opinion the Z hasn't been aound since 1969. That would be the "Chevrolet Camaro Z-28" .


All kidding aside, when I think of a Datsun Z car, I go back to the 70's 240Z. Any thing since then is just carrying on the name. And they (the 240Z's) are still affordable, unlike the first gen Z-28.

Hydramatic

I know this is heresy, but when I hear someone say, "badass Z!" I think 300ZX automatically...not Z/28. Sorry! I loved the old Nissan Z-cars WAAAAAY before I even cared about cars or the Camaro for that matter. I've wanted a 300ZX since I was like four.

Hydramatic

I forgot about the G35! Thanks for reminding me!

TT632

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If it sells like the 300 ZX it will only be around for a few years. Quite a few the first year, then diminishing after that. When the performance of the car doesn't live up to the hype it's the only way for it to go. Nissan lost huge amounts of money importing the 300 ZX here. the only reason the current Z car is around is because it is inexpensive, just like the original 240 Z. In the Corvette price range, the market is much more limited. Unfortunatley for Nissan, they have a very small, but very vocal following. They have been burned on the 300ZX and the SER in the 90's by listening to these small but vocal numbers. Both cars were very good, they just didn't sell well in the end.

germeezy1

Other than the 911 and the Corvette there aren't many sports car that have survived for a long time in the mid to upper price range of the market.

Hydramatic

But the 300ZX was around for almost fifteen years(seventeen in Japan)? What are you smokin'?lol

Just as a refresher...http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nissan_300ZX

Now that I look at the stats on the '83 model, 160 horsepower from a 3.0L SOHC V6 N/A was a smokin' hot engine for the time....

RedBeauty84ZX

The Z31 actually won a few road tests against the C4 in the mid 80s, and of course the Z32 won a few in the 90's.

Hydramatic

"Pontiac's new Trans Sport" ROFL