MotorTrend GTR acceleration tests...
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http://www.motortrend.com/av/roadtes..._GT-R_dyno_run
and the z06 made 450.8 hp and 424.9 ft/lb on this one (motortrend didnt have one other than supercharged)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rqYzRRJtcGw
another that made 449.6 hp and 418.5 ft/lb
http://videos.streetfire.net/video/C...rwtq_65069.htm
so i think that they are both fast but the z06 is faster
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heres the dyno run of the skyline and it says around 430.6 hp and 425.3 ft/lb to the wheels
http://www.motortrend.com/av/roadtes..._GT-R_dyno_run
and the z06 made 450.8 hp and 424.9 ft/lb on this one (motortrend didnt have one other than supercharged)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rqYzRRJtcGw
another that made 449.6 hp and 418.5 ft/lb
http://videos.streetfire.net/video/C...rwtq_65069.htm
so i think that they are both fast but the z06 is faster
http://www.motortrend.com/av/roadtes..._GT-R_dyno_run
and the z06 made 450.8 hp and 424.9 ft/lb on this one (motortrend didnt have one other than supercharged)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rqYzRRJtcGw
another that made 449.6 hp and 418.5 ft/lb
http://videos.streetfire.net/video/C...rwtq_65069.htm
so i think that they are both fast but the z06 is faster
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heres the dyno run of the skyline and it says around 430.6 hp and 425.3 ft/lb to the wheels
http://www.motortrend.com/av/roadtes..._GT-R_dyno_run
and the z06 made 450.8 hp and 424.9 ft/lb on this one (motortrend didnt have one other than supercharged)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rqYzRRJtcGw
another that made 449.6 hp and 418.5 ft/lb
http://videos.streetfire.net/video/C...rwtq_65069.htm
so i think that they are both fast but the z06 is faster
http://www.motortrend.com/av/roadtes..._GT-R_dyno_run
and the z06 made 450.8 hp and 424.9 ft/lb on this one (motortrend didnt have one other than supercharged)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rqYzRRJtcGw
another that made 449.6 hp and 418.5 ft/lb
http://videos.streetfire.net/video/C...rwtq_65069.htm
so i think that they are both fast but the z06 is faster
430.6 X 1.25 = 538.25 crank horsepower
BTW - That skyline is AWESOME in red. WOW
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here's what i have to say about anything and everything that's been posted defending one car or the other so far:
who gives a ****?
both cars are awesome machines, and each one was built for a different purpose. buy what you like and put it up against everyone else. if it's faster, you win. if not, you mod it until you win.
who keeps these cars stock for long anyway?
i've gotta fall back to one of my favorite images to sum it all up:
who gives a ****?
both cars are awesome machines, and each one was built for a different purpose. buy what you like and put it up against everyone else. if it's faster, you win. if not, you mod it until you win.
who keeps these cars stock for long anyway?
i've gotta fall back to one of my favorite images to sum it all up:
![](http://www.darkfire.net/~mrb/images/retarded.jpg)
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here's what i have to say about anything and everything that's been posted defending one car or the other so far:
who gives a ****?
both cars are awesome machines, and each one was built for a different purpose. buy what you like and put it up against everyone else. if it's faster, you win. if not, you mod it until you win.
who keeps these cars stock for long anyway?
i've gotta fall back to one of my favorite images to sum it all up:
![](http://www.darkfire.net/~mrb/images/retarded.jpg)
who gives a ****?
both cars are awesome machines, and each one was built for a different purpose. buy what you like and put it up against everyone else. if it's faster, you win. if not, you mod it until you win.
who keeps these cars stock for long anyway?
i've gotta fall back to one of my favorite images to sum it all up:
![](http://www.darkfire.net/~mrb/images/retarded.jpg)
1999 called and said they want that picture back
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From personal experience at comparable costs Nissan cars are MUCH better quality then a comparable GM product. Sure a $20,000 Sentra isnt going to be up to the quality of a $50,000 Corvette. Same goes if you compare a $13,000 Chevrolet Aveo to a $32,000 Nissan Maxima. But in general GM quality is and always has been well below the industry average.
This is all from personal experience and friends/family who have owned them. I know only one Nissan owner at present time...all the others have fled the brand thanks to most of them spending close to half the MSRP of their vehicle in repair costs over the first 5 years. My mother actually went from two Infinitis (an I30 and a G35) to an Impala SS cause she was tired of spending a grand everytime ANYTHING went wrong with her car. within the first three years of owning both Infinitis, she put in well over 2g's in both cases. The Impala, on the other hand, hasn't needed a damn thing in 40k miles.
I could go on and on about GM quality...but the fact is that GM quality is now, and has been for at least four years, well above the industry average. GM and Toyota made up 15 of the top 18 brands on JD Power's initial quality ranking for 2006. No Nissan there.
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I'm going to have to go ahead and disagree there...the $15k Cobalt puts every Nissan i've encountered to shame. At least within the last 5 years. Perhaps they were better back in the 90's, but not in this century. CR and JD power agree...Nissan hasn't seen the top half of any quality ranking this century.
This is all from personal experience and friends/family who have owned them. I know only one Nissan owner at present time...all the others have fled the brand thanks to most of them spending close to half the MSRP of their vehicle in repair costs over the first 5 years. My mother actually went from two Infinitis (an I30 and a G35) to an Impala SS cause she was tired of spending a grand everytime ANYTHING went wrong with her car. within the first three years of owning both Infinitis, she put in well over 2g's in both cases. The Impala, on the other hand, hasn't needed a damn thing in 40k miles.
I could go on and on about GM quality...but the fact is that GM quality is now, and has been for at least four years, well above the industry average. GM and Toyota made up 15 of the top 18 brands on JD Power's initial quality ranking for 2006. No Nissan there.
This is all from personal experience and friends/family who have owned them. I know only one Nissan owner at present time...all the others have fled the brand thanks to most of them spending close to half the MSRP of their vehicle in repair costs over the first 5 years. My mother actually went from two Infinitis (an I30 and a G35) to an Impala SS cause she was tired of spending a grand everytime ANYTHING went wrong with her car. within the first three years of owning both Infinitis, she put in well over 2g's in both cases. The Impala, on the other hand, hasn't needed a damn thing in 40k miles.
I could go on and on about GM quality...but the fact is that GM quality is now, and has been for at least four years, well above the industry average. GM and Toyota made up 15 of the top 18 brands on JD Power's initial quality ranking for 2006. No Nissan there.
Have to disagree with you. Had a rental cobalt and it was a POS on the inside. On the other hand when i had a rental maxima the interior was BEAUTIFUL. It has the technology package and i was blown away with it.
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For the record it made 47x on that Japanese dynapack. They also make ~410awhp on the mustang dynos in the US (two different dynos).
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From personal experience at comparable costs Nissan cars are MUCH better quality then a comparable GM product. Sure a $20,000 Sentra isnt going to be up to the quality of a $50,000 Corvette. Same goes if you compare a $13,000 Chevrolet Aveo to a $32,000 Nissan Maxima. But in general GM quality is and always has been well below the industry average.
If this is true, explain to me why My friends' top of the line Nissan Titan has FACTORY SADDLE EXHAUST CLAMPS and my lowly $26k '02 Silverado LS has full, one piece exhaust from the cats back?
How's about all that brittle plastic under the hood?
How about the fact that Chevrolet can actually make a sportscar look like a sportscar?
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Difference in perspective I suppose...I dunno.
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I'm going to have to go ahead and disagree there...the $15k Cobalt puts every Nissan i've encountered to shame. At least within the last 5 years. Perhaps they were better back in the 90's, but not in this century. CR and JD power agree...Nissan hasn't seen the top half of any quality ranking this century.
This is all from personal experience and friends/family who have owned them. I know only one Nissan owner at present time...all the others have fled the brand thanks to most of them spending close to half the MSRP of their vehicle in repair costs over the first 5 years. My mother actually went from two Infinitis (an I30 and a G35) to an Impala SS cause she was tired of spending a grand everytime ANYTHING went wrong with her car. within the first three years of owning both Infinitis, she put in well over 2g's in both cases. The Impala, on the other hand, hasn't needed a damn thing in 40k miles.
I could go on and on about GM quality...but the fact is that GM quality is now, and has been for at least four years, well above the industry average. GM and Toyota made up 15 of the top 18 brands on JD Power's initial quality ranking for 2006. No Nissan there.
This is all from personal experience and friends/family who have owned them. I know only one Nissan owner at present time...all the others have fled the brand thanks to most of them spending close to half the MSRP of their vehicle in repair costs over the first 5 years. My mother actually went from two Infinitis (an I30 and a G35) to an Impala SS cause she was tired of spending a grand everytime ANYTHING went wrong with her car. within the first three years of owning both Infinitis, she put in well over 2g's in both cases. The Impala, on the other hand, hasn't needed a damn thing in 40k miles.
I could go on and on about GM quality...but the fact is that GM quality is now, and has been for at least four years, well above the industry average. GM and Toyota made up 15 of the top 18 brands on JD Power's initial quality ranking for 2006. No Nissan there.
Sharing personal experiences isnt going to prove much. I will agree that Nissans quality took a dip after Ghosn took office in 2000 and went down hill for a few years but as of late(07+) things have been getting a lot better. Even still I don't think Nissans quality has ever dipped as low as chevrolet. But we both have our opinions. We have 5 different Nissans in the family, two of which with over 200K miles on the factory engine/tranny and all have been rock solid reliable.
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And LOL if you think the rest of the car has nothing to do with it.
And no one is comparing the ZR1 here... The Motortrend article ran a Z06.
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Your interior:
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Silverado engine bay:
![](https://images.motortrend.com/roadtests/trucks/112_0704_05z+2007_chevrolet_silverado+engine.jpg)
Nissan Titan interior:
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Nissan Titan engine bay:
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Man...GM really seems to be beating Nissan on quality...
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How about the fact that Chevrolet can actually make a sportscar look like a sportscar?
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Both the 240Z and 300ZX have made it onto countless most beautiful cars of all time lists...and yes they look like a Sports car. GTRs have never been pure sports cars.