Experience with Predator Tuner?
05-28-2009, 11:39 PM
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Experience with Predator Tuner? Has anyone had a positive experience with a Predator Tuner? I had one for my 'stang, and while I know I could have gotten more power outta my car had I had it dyno tuned, I still liked it. Can I get a decent tune via predator? My car came with a StealthV tune but I know absolutely nothing about it.
05-29-2009, 12:15 AM
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If you don't mod it at all stick with the StealthV tune. It will be much better then anything you can get the predator to do. Rick really knew what he was doing with the Vs and basically had every bolt on mod combo to work with on his mail order tunes.
05-29-2009, 09:02 AM
#3
I'll be the first to admit that all applications do not want the same tune, which is why we offer end user adjustable parameters in our Predators that allow you to dial in the tune for YOUR car.
Our canned tunes for the Vs is very nice, and then you have the ability to alter WOT A/F ratios, WOT timing, you can adjust fuel trims, raise rev limiters, adjust tire size to correct the speedo, and more.
If you start with the other tune and add a CAI, that tune is no longer optimized, and you'd have to send the device back, have a new tune sent out, etc....
The Predator also gives you other handy features like the ability to datalog without a laptop, and to read or clear trouble codes, as well as supporting custom tuning.
Thanks
Mike
05-29-2009, 11:02 AM
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I didn't mean to say that the predator was a bad tune, just that he's looking for a canned tune and already has one that has the reputation of being one of the best, then StealthV now W4M.
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05-29-2009, 11:39 AM
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How can you say that?
I'll be the first to admit that all applications do not want the same tune, which is why we offer end user adjustable parameters in our Predators that allow you to dial in the tune for YOUR car.
Our canned tunes for the Vs is very nice, and then you have the ability to alter WOT A/F ratios, WOT timing, you can adjust fuel trims, raise rev limiters, adjust tire size to correct the speedo, and more.
If you start with the other tune and add a CAI, that tune is no longer optimized, and you'd have to send the device back, have a new tune sent out, etc....
The Predator also gives you other handy features like the ability to datalog without a laptop, and to read or clear trouble codes, as well as supporting custom tuning.
Thanks
Mike
I'll be the first to admit that all applications do not want the same tune, which is why we offer end user adjustable parameters in our Predators that allow you to dial in the tune for YOUR car.
Our canned tunes for the Vs is very nice, and then you have the ability to alter WOT A/F ratios, WOT timing, you can adjust fuel trims, raise rev limiters, adjust tire size to correct the speedo, and more.
If you start with the other tune and add a CAI, that tune is no longer optimized, and you'd have to send the device back, have a new tune sent out, etc....
The Predator also gives you other handy features like the ability to datalog without a laptop, and to read or clear trouble codes, as well as supporting custom tuning.
Thanks
Mike
Thanks
Tony
05-29-2009, 02:26 PM
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Mike, what's this new Trinity you guys have coming out? Is it just a fancy Predator or does it provide more tuneability? And is there one for our cars?
And does the Predator allow for specific tuning of A/F as well as readings? Can I adjust .01 or is it a gradually measure like +5% +10% ....?
Thanks
Tony
And does the Predator allow for specific tuning of A/F as well as readings? Can I adjust .01 or is it a gradually measure like +5% +10% ....?
Thanks
Tony
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05-29-2009, 04:08 PM
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Mike, what's this new Trinity you guys have coming out? Is it just a fancy Predator or does it provide more tuneability? And is there one for our cars?
And does the Predator allow for specific tuning of A/F as well as readings? Can I adjust .01 or is it a gradually measure like +5% +10% ....?
Thanks
Tony
And does the Predator allow for specific tuning of A/F as well as readings? Can I adjust .01 or is it a gradually measure like +5% +10% ....?
Thanks
Tony
The tuning capabilities are similar to those of the Predator.
WOT Fuel changes can be made in 1% increments.
GM gas applications are not included yet, but will be soon, and will make for a great addition to a nice V.
Thanks
Mike
05-29-2009, 04:11 PM
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I am not a betting man, actually I am, but saying such helps this post, but I would venture to say that no other company has tuned more LSXs than DiabloSport. As for South Florida, I would say no one has tuned more high-output street cars than Johan at DiabloSport. And lastly, NO ONE OFFERS BETTER CUSTOMER SERVICE THAN MIKE, HE IS A GREAT DUDE, EVEN THOUGH HE KNOWS JAMIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
05-29-2009, 04:37 PM
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I am not a betting man, actually I am, but saying such helps this post, but I would venture to say that no other company has tuned more LSXs than DiabloSport. As for South Florida, I would say no one has tuned more high-output street cars than Johan at DiabloSport. And lastly, NO ONE OFFERS BETTER CUSTOMER SERVICE THAN MIKE, HE IS A GREAT DUDE, EVEN THOUGH HE KNOWS JAMIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hes right though, Johan has quite a grasp on tuning GMs, from Jamies TT 786 rwhp Vette with a stock bottom end, to onebads caddy that drives like stock till you lay into it, he has them all covered.
05-29-2009, 05:43 PM
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My main reason for looking into getting a tuner (other than the fact that I currently have one for my 'stang), is that I would like to get a set of LT Headers, bigger TB, and MAF delete. I've heard that its necessary to get it tuned afterward. Will I be able to plug in a Predator and make the tuning adjustments necessary after installing these parts, or is this something better left to a professional? My V is an '04.
06-01-2009, 02:44 PM
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My main reason for looking into getting a tuner (other than the fact that I currently have one for my 'stang), is that I would like to get a set of LT Headers, bigger TB, and MAF delete. I've heard that its necessary to get it tuned afterward. Will I be able to plug in a Predator and make the tuning adjustments necessary after installing these parts, or is this something better left to a professional? My V is an '04.
As for removing the MAF to go SD, we do not support that feature, but, why?
The stock MAF is not a restriction till over 500 rwhp N/A and we have made stoopid power through the stock MAF, like 780+ rwhp:
https://ls1tech.com/forums/dynamomet...ock+bottom+end
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Mike
06-01-2009, 02:52 PM
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^^^that was done on my original V's motor, LS6, so for all of you concerned about what a stock LS6 can take, rest easy. Then again, that was for shiats and giggles, and was dialed in much lower. I still think 600RWHP can be safe on a stock LS6/LS2 on a daily driver with good fuel and a good tune.
06-01-2009, 08:24 PM
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These changes tend to require part throttle adjustments as well as WOT changes, and are thus best done with custom tuning as the Predator does not give access to part throttle timing adjustments.
As for removing the MAF to go SD, we do not support that feature, but, why?
As for removing the MAF to go SD, we do not support that feature, but, why?
I know I won't be able to expect much, but others have a picked up a few hps by removing the screen - also, I think they were removed from the factory in '06 & '07. If I see 10 (even just at the crank), I'd be happy. It's completely free if I'm having it dynoed regardless.That being said, I'm up in Appleton, WI - 45min south of Green Bay and 2hrs north of Milwaukee. Any Diablo tuners in the area I should check out?
P.S. - this would require a handheld correct?
06-02-2009, 11:12 AM
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no offense mike but my car ran like absolute crap intermittently with the canned diablosport tune on it. Sometimes it went into limp mode, and wouldnt rev above 2,000 rpms for no reason... When I removed the canned tune.....I never had any more issues.
FULL CUSTOM DYNO TUNE is the only thing Id put on my car PERIOD.
I got tuned by one of the ppl responsible for building the stock tunes for the diablosport programmers....so Im not being biased.....just honest.
Car runs 100x better with the dyno tune than it did with the can tune
See numbers in sig.
FULL CUSTOM DYNO TUNE is the only thing Id put on my car PERIOD.
I got tuned by one of the ppl responsible for building the stock tunes for the diablosport programmers....so Im not being biased.....just honest.
Car runs 100x better with the dyno tune than it did with the can tune
See numbers in sig.