CTS-V V2 manual tranny swap?
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CTS-V V2 manual tranny swap?
Does anyone have any info on what parts are needed to do a manual tranny swap on a current model CTS-V auto? Or if it's even possible(feasible)?
Before anyone suggests I just buy a manual model, let me explain my situation.
I'm in Korea, and they just started selling the new CTS-V here last month, and of course, this being Korea, they don't offer the manual, only autos. So, I would like to pick up a used model soon, and do a manual swap on it if possible.
Before anyone suggests I just buy a manual model, let me explain my situation.
I'm in Korea, and they just started selling the new CTS-V here last month, and of course, this being Korea, they don't offer the manual, only autos. So, I would like to pick up a used model soon, and do a manual swap on it if possible.
#5
Dude...wash your car before going to cars and coffee!
It still looked awesome though.
#7
Cad CTS-V2 automatic versus manual trans data (as of 08-07-2010):
Manual trans (M6): Tremec TR6060 6 speed manual,
fully synchronized with single overdrive (MG9):
Gear ratios (:1) 1st: 2.66, 2nd: 1.78, 3rd: 1.30, 4th: 1.00,
5th: 0.80, 6th: 0.63, final: 3.73, reverse: 2.90
Gas Guzzler (GG) tax of $1300, or half that of the A6
Faster by 16 MPH (191 MPH versus 175 MPH (governed))
A tad slower in the 1/4 & on the street
A tad better *mileage* than the *auto* but probably not significant
About 38 more RWHP than the auto on the average
About 30 more RWTQ that the auto
About 95 lbs lighter that the auto
No remote start feature
Has “no lift-shift” feature
Automatic trans (A6): Hydra-matic 6L90E 6 speed
electronically controlled automatic overdrive with
torque converter clutch (MYD): Gear ratios (:1) 1st:
4.03, 2nd: 2.36, 3rd: 1.53, 4th: 1.15, 5th: 0.85, 6th: 0.67,
final: 3.23, reverse: 3.06
Gas Guzzler (GG) tax of $2600, or twice that of the M6
Slower by 16 MPH (175 MPH (governed) versus 191 MPH)
A tad quicker in the 1/4 & on the street
A tad worse mileage than the manual but probably not significant
About 38 less RWHP than the manual on the average
About 30 less RWTQ that the manual on the average
About 95 lbs more that the manual
Remote start feature
About 1 in every 6 ’09 CTS-V’s were / are manual trans (M6)
I've an auto, bone stock, and I would never trade either the car or the tranny for a manual, however I know tha the same is said by the manual guys. HTH
Manual trans (M6): Tremec TR6060 6 speed manual,
fully synchronized with single overdrive (MG9):
Gear ratios (:1) 1st: 2.66, 2nd: 1.78, 3rd: 1.30, 4th: 1.00,
5th: 0.80, 6th: 0.63, final: 3.73, reverse: 2.90
Gas Guzzler (GG) tax of $1300, or half that of the A6
Faster by 16 MPH (191 MPH versus 175 MPH (governed))
A tad slower in the 1/4 & on the street
A tad better *mileage* than the *auto* but probably not significant
About 38 more RWHP than the auto on the average
About 30 more RWTQ that the auto
About 95 lbs lighter that the auto
No remote start feature
Has “no lift-shift” feature
Automatic trans (A6): Hydra-matic 6L90E 6 speed
electronically controlled automatic overdrive with
torque converter clutch (MYD): Gear ratios (:1) 1st:
4.03, 2nd: 2.36, 3rd: 1.53, 4th: 1.15, 5th: 0.85, 6th: 0.67,
final: 3.23, reverse: 3.06
Gas Guzzler (GG) tax of $2600, or twice that of the M6
Slower by 16 MPH (175 MPH (governed) versus 191 MPH)
A tad quicker in the 1/4 & on the street
A tad worse mileage than the manual but probably not significant
About 38 less RWHP than the manual on the average
About 30 less RWTQ that the manual on the average
About 95 lbs more that the manual
Remote start feature
About 1 in every 6 ’09 CTS-V’s were / are manual trans (M6)
I've an auto, bone stock, and I would never trade either the car or the tranny for a manual, however I know tha the same is said by the manual guys. HTH
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Cad CTS-V2 bone stock ¼ elapsed times & MPH’s, Owners, 60 ft.
¼ ET------MPH------trans-----owner---------60 ft. times
11.99-----118.0-----auto-----mpouls1--------1.801= 60 ft
12.06-----119.6-----auto-----tedboss1-------1.950=60 ft
12.10-----118.0-----auto-----brent eb02
12.10-----119.0-----auto-----srt8/bmw
12.15-----116.5-----auto-----ctsveee---------1.885= 60 ft
12.20-----?????------auto-----fastrunner
12.22-----114.3-----auto-----veelocity-------1.83= 60 ft
12.31-----119.8-----manl----easy2speed
12.31-----114.4-----auto-----ctsveee---------1.92= 60 ft
12.32-----116.0-----auto-----hondarrr
12.36-----117.0-----auto-----pat-kat mcrat
12.40-----116.4-----auto-----snzuloz---------1.94= 60 ft
12.49-----116.9-----auto-----co0lsly----------2.1= 60 ft
12.50-----?????------auto-----ready2roll
12.52-----114.8-----auto-----lawnstripes----2.06=60 ft
12.53-----118.4-----auto-----tedboss1-------2.19=60 ft
12.69-----111.0-----auto-----intervention302--- (ls1tech)
These are some 1/4 bone stock reported times, off of different Cad forums and / or sections. I love mine, even bond stock, but it all depends upon your needs. Also, I might be having mine built & tuned before long.
HTH
¼ ET------MPH------trans-----owner---------60 ft. times
11.99-----118.0-----auto-----mpouls1--------1.801= 60 ft
12.06-----119.6-----auto-----tedboss1-------1.950=60 ft
12.10-----118.0-----auto-----brent eb02
12.10-----119.0-----auto-----srt8/bmw
12.15-----116.5-----auto-----ctsveee---------1.885= 60 ft
12.20-----?????------auto-----fastrunner
12.22-----114.3-----auto-----veelocity-------1.83= 60 ft
12.31-----119.8-----manl----easy2speed
12.31-----114.4-----auto-----ctsveee---------1.92= 60 ft
12.32-----116.0-----auto-----hondarrr
12.36-----117.0-----auto-----pat-kat mcrat
12.40-----116.4-----auto-----snzuloz---------1.94= 60 ft
12.49-----116.9-----auto-----co0lsly----------2.1= 60 ft
12.50-----?????------auto-----ready2roll
12.52-----114.8-----auto-----lawnstripes----2.06=60 ft
12.53-----118.4-----auto-----tedboss1-------2.19=60 ft
12.69-----111.0-----auto-----intervention302--- (ls1tech)
These are some 1/4 bone stock reported times, off of different Cad forums and / or sections. I love mine, even bond stock, but it all depends upon your needs. Also, I might be having mine built & tuned before long.
HTH
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Resurrecting this thread from the dead.
OP - did you ever end up pulling this off?
There are so many AT V's on the market and they're becoming very affordable - seems like the 6MT setup still comes at a bit of a premium. I've seen a handful of AT setups with prices low enough to consider potential tranny swaps myself.
I know, I know, everyone swears by the the AT V, but some of us just prefer the feel of that third pedal.
OP/Anyone reading - any knowledge with potential swaps, etc.?
Thanks guys!
OP - did you ever end up pulling this off?
There are so many AT V's on the market and they're becoming very affordable - seems like the 6MT setup still comes at a bit of a premium. I've seen a handful of AT setups with prices low enough to consider potential tranny swaps myself.
I know, I know, everyone swears by the the AT V, but some of us just prefer the feel of that third pedal.
OP/Anyone reading - any knowledge with potential swaps, etc.?
Thanks guys!
#15
I damn near ordered a manual today, had a 10 auto. I think the solution is to buy two, commuting auto is the way to go; when you want to drive the car and push the envelope at an auto x event or something similar a manual is a must. I want both dammit haha.