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Old 12-17-2010 | 01:06 AM
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I agree with the Wheel Hop and the axles. However There are others like myself that broke theirs with the famous 1st to 2nd shift, with No wheel hop just a Bang and the driveshaft bouncing. Just like I told kaddo101 this is in addtion too at least the bushing, anti wheel hop bar, and axles are a good idea too. I hope that no one thinks I have tried to miss lead them to thinking they don't need those too. But I broke my 2nd rear end with those and that is why I came up with this girdle. Girdles for Vettes have been around for a long time to fix the weak spot on the attachment of Trans to Rear end and that is how I came up with what I did, strengthen the weak spot of the housing.
Old 12-17-2010 | 07:02 AM
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Maybe I missed it but what axles did you have on that second rear that you broke? Also, what version of diff was the 2nd one? Part number?
Old 12-17-2010 | 11:05 AM
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I have done everything but the axles: and axles are a good idea too., is what I said and is something that will be done later. I have broke both designs the last one was on a 1-2 shift with No Wheel hop at all.
Old 12-17-2010 | 01:15 PM
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Originally Posted by whisler151
This product looks cool but not something I would buy. I bought the axles so I could do launches like this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QpKFWvowfnU
ahh so what type of 60' did those launches get you on the track?
Old 12-17-2010 | 01:22 PM
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Originally Posted by liqidvenom
ahh so what type of 60' did those launches get you on the track?
I didn't get these to race, I got them to eliminate wheel hop. If I wanted a car that would get impressive 60ft and 1/4 mile times I wouldn't have gotten a V.

If you think this brace will get you 1.7 60ft times you are mistaken.
Old 12-17-2010 | 01:39 PM
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Originally Posted by whisler151
I didn't get these to race, I got them to eliminate wheel hop. If I wanted a car that would get impressive 60ft and 1/4 mile times I wouldn't have gotten a V.

If you think this brace will get you 1.7 60ft times you are mistaken.
i never said it would do anything. you said these axles allowed me to launch like the pic/vid you posted.

its like getting slicks and posting a video of you taking a corner in your neighborhood and then saying you get them to handle and if you wanted to do such you would have bought a different car.
Old 12-17-2010 | 01:54 PM
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BOTTOM LINE GUYS, They make kits like this for 3000GT VR-4's (I own a 848 AWHP vr-4) and let me tell you. This will take a good part of the stress (not all of it) away from the case itself. It is not a fix per say. Nothing is when you drive your car like any of the above. Everything has an "X" amount of runs in it before it breaks. This will just give you a whole lot more life (maybe beyound your ownership of your "V") than having nothing at all. Even race motors have to be rebuilt every so often at high power applications. That same motor but stock wouldn't last maybe even a single run. That being said Drivetrain only knows TQ so the more you make the more you grip its going to take its toll in stress. It WILL break just how many "X" amount of runs/launches does it have left? This will make it so you have "XXX" number of runs left in it.

Personally I bought (CS) motor/tranny/driveshaft/rear diff poly mounts, spec rear subframe mounts, Gforce axles, and this full gridle. I am also going to buy a KARSIII kit and drill two small holes in the bottom of this so it will bolt up to that KARS kit. I will be launching my car hard and wont have a worry about my rear end. Anyone can take any combination of these parts I have and it will solve most of your issues but nothing is a complete fix unless you go with the complete custom rear costing 6K+. That being said I myself do not want to hack up my rear and do all the work on my "V" myself. So these kits are what I am looking for. To each is own, this kit will last at the track and once it opens I will be going and by then I'll be maggied so time will tell... I have faith!
Old 12-19-2010 | 01:54 AM
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No cutting and a lot cheaper then the other 2 options.
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Originally Posted by whisler151
I didn't get these to race, I got them to eliminate wheel hop. If I wanted a car that would get impressive 60ft and 1/4 mile times I wouldn't have gotten a V.

If you think this brace will get you 1.7 60ft times you are mistaken.
Couldnt agree more as much as it sucks to say.

$7,000=possible 1.7 60's, no other options will get you there RELIABLY
Old 12-19-2010 | 12:20 PM
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wait so now its an extra 100 bucks from before ? screw that
Old 12-19-2010 | 02:28 PM
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I am not sure were you got that from, it is $800 with feedback.
Old 12-19-2010 | 03:45 PM
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YouTube Videos for everyone...

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Here is the bottom line...atleast IMO...i may get this, i may not, i just dont know right now. i do have high goals for this car, but i have no intention of making this a drag strip car. but if i wanted a real drag racer, i would have saved the money i spent on the V and got C5 Vette (FRC or Z) and put some work into it. or and older F-Bodym and really build it proper for drag races.

If you want to just get rid of wheel hop, buy aftermarket axles. They are cheaper and if you arent doing track days, its all you will need.

If you want to go to the track every now and then, and just use the V as a street machine mainly. This rear girdle is a nice budget option to a 9 IRS Rear. But if you are going with a lot (550+) and high RPM Clutch Drop (5000+) this gridle wont help the diff for very long.

and then, we all no about what G-Force is doing right now.
Old 12-20-2010 | 06:10 PM
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I agree with if the car will be used for Drag Racing all of the time but I believe that the Girdle will help keep the rear end a live to at least 600+. If you are going way over that then I feel the best move would be the 9", if you dont mind cutting. The axle to are a good idea with anything close to 500hp with sticky tires.
Old 12-20-2010 | 06:45 PM
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Originally Posted by TCP1
Shows our Shop Car launching at 3800 and ripping thru 2nd.
Originally Posted by liqidvenom
i never said it would do anything. you said these axles allowed me to launch like the pic/vid you posted.
I know you are chomping at the bit to argue with me any chance you get, so I expect this from you.

Before axles, it was hard for a V to launch hard without hopping. The first youtube video by TCP1 was of a hard launch and no hop. I was simply showing him that there are already products to allow this.

Originally Posted by liqidvenom
its like getting slicks and posting a video of you taking a corner in your neighborhood and then saying you get them to handle and if you wanted to do such you would have bought a different car.
I have never said that I bought the Gforce axles to race. I have said this time and time again, it is to eliminate wheel hop...please try to comprehend that.

TCP1: Looks like a solid product for those that want the extra security. Nice work. Sorry for the thread jack.
Old 12-20-2010 | 08:53 PM
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Old 12-20-2010 | 09:43 PM
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I'm happy to see another option out there for us.

Can I see the difference between the half and full?
Old 12-20-2010 | 10:39 PM
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i need to remember this page, I'm about to pull the V into the garage for a heads cam swap and even now i hear a big thump every-time i power shift to 2nd. it sounds and feels like the rear is smacking the bottom of the car. but damn, i cant let those SRT boys get away from me ,LOL
Old 12-21-2010 | 12:19 PM
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Originally Posted by TCP1
I am not sure were you got that from, it is $800 with feedback.
are you sure because from what i remember you said 700 with feed back and 800 is your price
Old 12-21-2010 | 01:27 PM
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can we see some pics of the full and half girdle? differences and that type of stuff.. 800 for a bolt together box is pretty pricey, not like everything else for this car isnt pricey ...just sayin.
Old 12-21-2010 | 01:31 PM
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Originally Posted by whisler151
I know you are chomping at the bit to argue with me any chance you get, so I expect this from you.

Before axles, it was hard for a V to launch hard without hopping. The first youtube video by TCP1 was of a hard launch and no hop. I was simply showing him that there are already products to allow this.



I have never said that I bought the Gforce axles to race. I have said this time and time again, it is to eliminate wheel hop...please try to comprehend that.

TCP1: Looks like a solid product for those that want the extra security. Nice work. Sorry for the thread jack.
Whisler, don't feel bad, liquid loves to sling **** at all my posts as well. Basically, he constantly feels the need to stick up for drag racing with these cars. For the record, I, and probably all other viewers of this thread understood where you were going with your posted video of a hop-free launch.

Bottom line, drag racing first Gen Vs and somehow hoping for good times is a pipe dream, plain and simple. They suck ***** at the 1/4 mile.

The sooner liquid and everybody else will realize that, the better and more fulfilling their lives will be. You have a car that can do virtually every other performance related thing well (great top end speed, great gearing, great handling on roadcourse and auto-x, great brakes, great gas mileage, very comfortable on long trips, plenty of room in car for 5 people or lots of luggage, still looks great, nicer interior than a lot of 2004 cars, etc.). I don't understand why people can't just be happy with that.

BTW, before anybody says it, I know I sound like a broken record with all the anti-1/4 mile talk, but I have owned my V and been around these forums for almost 6 years, and I have seen so many parts come and go, seen so many guys try to make this car into something it's not, that I want to make sure any new V guys reading these forums know the truth about what these cars can and can't do (without a ton of money dropped into them).

Back on Topic: TCP, thanks for bringing this product to the V market. We really are happy with any and all cool products that we can have available. I like the idea of this (in conjunction with the aftermarket axles) to really help the diff case have a longer life. My only gripe with the product would be like the poster above, the price is a bit high for me as it stands. I would more seriously consider this if it was in the $400-$500 range. But that is just my cheap *** talking, I'm sure you will sell quite a few of these kits to us V people.

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