itsslow98

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I love spray but I don't love filling it. I may be looking to add a blower in the spring. What do you guys think i'd make with a 112 and my current mods? Maybe top it with a 50 shot just in case lol. I like the fact i can spend under 5k and put the blower on myself and have that power everytime i want it. I just don't wanna be dissappointed if i drop the money on it and dont get good results. My cam really is the only thing bothering me since im not wanting to pay and change it.

ColeGraham

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right at 500 at the wheels (maybe a hair above) off the bottle. 560ish with the 50 shot...

GhettoTy

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I'm gonna guess 475 to the wheels. any reason you wouldn't go with the bigger 122? Or what about a bigger motor? You can do a lot with 5k.

itsslow98

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they dont make the 122 anymore for the V from what ive seen. I could do a forged bottom end or a 408 but id stll have to put stock heads back on it and a stock intake manifold so itd really defeat all the possible gains by going bigger. If im only gonna make 75 more rwhp with a 112 for that kinda money i doubt ill do it. thanks for the input though im just trying to get other people inputs on it.

i figured good heads(2000)+fast 92(700)+ls2tb(250)+injectors(300)=3,000 for about 40-50rwhp/maybe 20rwtq.

the jester 812

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you could drop my 408 with TSP ported l92 heads,l76 intake,39lb injectors,92mm TB, pretty much the whole shebang for under 4k and get it tuned and have around 500+whp and its built for a 250+ shot.
sorry, shameless plug

Stepside

I think a little patience at this point in time, to see if a do-able 2.3 TVS Edelbrock or Whipple becomes available. More cubic inches is always a plus, then bigger injectors and so-on, etc, etc, and you know how that goes . . $$.

nlpy8b

With the 112 and your mods I would guess 500. With the 50 shot..maybe 560??

RibeiroBJJ

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Its not about "peak HP"...Its about the power under the curve that only a Maggie can give you...there is a big difference driving a n/a 500hp car over a 500hp F/I car...The torque is instant..

I say get a 112HH ..but you should be able to get a 122HH if you give Joe@LC32 a call...he can change out the blower section only as a upgrade IIRC..That way you can buy a used kit and get credit for the 112 case..

Twitch1

Don't know much about cams, so I'll just put some thoughts out there.
You should get at least 100rwhp out of a Maggie on a stock car with a good tune. So with your 1 7/8 headers, I'll guess 460-475.
Do you think your cam would hurt the blower? Or would it gain power, but not as much as a blower cam? So you might be up around 500rwhp, maybe more.

Another thing to think about is with the headers, your boost will be lower than on an otherwise stock V. Now I'm assuming the cam will flow more air. So your boost will be even lower. You'll be flowing more air and HP through the motor, it just wont show up as high boost. This opens up the possibility to overdrive the Maggie. This gets your boost back up, and a bunch more power. The best way to do this IMO is the 8" crank pulley which costs $535 at ECS. Unless you can get them to overdrive the rear pulleys for you. Hendrix (if you go that rout) might be able to fanagle something up for you here, since Magnuson doesn't seem to like doing this for the V units. Also I think the GTO kits do/did come with 1:1 (overdriven) rear pulleys.
Keep in mind, overdriving a Maggie might reduce longevity. And don't forget about higher IATs.

If everything works out well and the planets are aligned, you might be able to squeeze 530+ through the wheels.

Does all this make sense? like I said, these are just thoughts but I do read a lot about Maggies.
Good luck

Tony

the jester 812

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im not pushing my 408, cuz i may drop it in my V, but if your talking about instant torque, more cubes will also give you that. my dyno sheet shows 350 torque at the wheels at 2000 rpms. thats pretty damn close to or better than what a 346 with boost will do. so there is not as much of a difference between a boosted small cube vs a N/A big cube engine

vmapper

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Thats correct the jester 812, a big stroker NA motor has GOBS of torque, and can easily have more than a wimpy 112 can throw at a 346.
Also, your missing the critical portion of your statement when you say 'its all about power under the curve'.
Yea, sure is, when your racing or going through the gears, where is your power under the curve RANGE??? Your missing that critical word, RANGE.
between 5400-6200 rpm, thats your RANGE when your petal to the mat going from gear to gear and Ill quickly discredit a maggie in that area vs lets say, a procharger or a big cam or stroker cid na car.
who gives a rats *** if you have 300ft lbs at 2000rpm. quite useless when you are ripping through the gears in the upper rpm, when would or for how long (in Milliseconds) are you in the 2000 rpm range? yea, never when your foot is into it after 1st gear.


As for the OP, Im sure installing the maggie will put a smile on your face none the less...

ls4door

Very true statement in last sentence. I'd rather have both though.

vmapper

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Dont we all... lol.

onebadcad

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Stock LS6, Maggie 112 with 2.8", headers and exhaust, small cam upgrade, best numbers during tuning session were 490/490, notice at 6,000rpms it was dead:

onebadcad

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Here are numbers with 383ci (9.4:1) and AFRs and bigger cam, with unit overdriven and same 2.8", the words 'Torque Monster' come to mind:

ColeGraham

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OneBad, the first curve gave me a semi...

the second one, i need to clean myself.

itsslow98

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I liek the #s but this is what worries me, the cam i have now pulls all the way to 6800 so with it flowing that great up top i can only imagine the power would drop off even more from the 112 past 6000.

TCP1

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We are a Dealer for Magnacharger and I am putting a 112 on my car. I have been told the 122 unoffical will work but will cause to use a cowl hood. This is something that I might do later.

big reg

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How much do you sell the kit for? Also what is the lead time for one. I know Magnussen does not stock them.

Its too bad they dont want to offer a Tvs 1900 kit that is reasonably priced for cathedral heads like they do for the GTO. The 112 just runs out of steam up top and running more boost just compounds it.

Stepside

I don't think anybody's 112, on a 5.7 or larger engine, puts out good numbers beyond 6000 rpms.
The MP112 maggie is designed mostly for streetability, in the low & mid range, where we do most of our driving.
The 112 is not bad on gas mileage either, with a stock cam.
If you want the power without the spray . . go for it
or maybe something better will come along in the near future.