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Old 06-18-2012, 08:25 AM
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Ya, Tony Mamo is the man.....he's doing my heads/intake/cam/TB setup for me now. He can tell you which heads and what rockers to use.
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Too late I already ordered. Oh well I wouldn't have wanted to spen more on additional porting with minnimal gains on a blower set up. If I was NA i would jump on it for sure.
Heads, cometic head gasket and arp studs, plus shipping is already over 3100.
Now I gotta order trunion upgrade, lifters and trays from summit. Anybody now of a good/right push rod checker from summit?
And thanks guys you really steered me in the right directions for heads.
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Make sure those holes are nice and clean when you go to put those studs in, having just done head studs I've got to say contrary to what I've heard getting the heads back on after studding was a cake walk. Good luck sir.
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What was your cleaning method for the threads?
Compressed air?
Solvent?
Q-tips?
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Originally Posted by BudRacing
What was your cleaning method for the threads?
Compressed air?
Solvent?
Q-tips?
I used about 4 cans of compressed air, and a bore brush from a 12 guage shotgun to clean the threads after. There was a lot of red threadlocker stuck in the threads on mine, that was a pita. Main thing is if you feel resistance before the stud is close to the bottom DO NOT force it. Screw the stud or bolt back out and see why it's getting stuck.

To recap
A couple cans of dusters.
A soft metal shotgun bore brush.
And a cloth bore brush to clean out anything loose.

This whole process made me rethink getting air tools.
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Originally Posted by tommycompton
Too late I already ordered. Oh well I wouldn't have wanted to spen more on additional porting with minnimal gains on a blower set up. If I was NA i would jump on it for sure.
Heads, cometic head gasket and arp studs, plus shipping is already over 3100.
Now I gotta order trunion upgrade, lifters and trays from summit. Anybody now of a good/right push rod checker from summit?
And thanks guys you really steered me in the right directions for heads.
Sounds good man, you'll be happy I'm sure.
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One question I have; maybe someone can clarrify and put my mind at ease?
People say not to run stock rockers with bronze valve guides on aftermarket heads; is that only a problem with higher lift cams?
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Are studs really better than bolts for the heads?
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Originally Posted by lollygagger8
Are studs really better than bolts for the heads?
I think it's more of a preference thing really.
I'd be running studs because of two things:
1. Boosted engine
2. Frequent head removal

I don't plan on either, so I went with bolts.
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Easiest way to clean the threads that I have found is to take one of the old TTY headbolts and grind a "V" into the threads of the bolt using a bench grinder...this will loosen all the crap in the threads when you run the bolt down so you can blow them out with brake-clean (brake clean evaporates completely) and air.

MAKE SURE THAT THERE IS NO RESIDUAL LIQUID IN THE BOLT HOLES OR YOU WILL CRACK THE BLOCK!
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Originally Posted by lollygagger8
Are studs really better than bolts for the heads?
Yes, as long as you do them properly. Do you need them on an NA engine not really, studs by design have more clamping force. If you have a motor that is running high boost you will gain reliability from studs and it will help you avoid head lift. Oh and as said earlier once they are in, it makes a world of difference if you have to pull the heads again, no more cleaning bolt holes in the block. If your in there and you have the money they are a good buy, at 300 the arp's are pricey but worth it.
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Originally Posted by Dmax/04V
Yes, as long as you do them properly. Do you need them on an NA engine not really, studs by design have more clamping force. If you have a motor that is running high boost you will gain reliability from studs and it will help you avoid head lift. Oh and as said earlier once they are in, it makes a world of difference if you have to pull the heads again, no more cleaning bolt holes in the block. If your in there and you have the money they are a good buy, at 300 the arp's are pricey but worth it.
Boosted motors 100% should get head studs, N/A motors are actually better off with bolts.
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Originally Posted by itsslow98
Boosted motors 100% should get head studs, N/A motors are actually better off with bolts.
I know you don't need studs on a NA motor, whats your reasoning on why bolts are better? Curious here.
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Good info on cleaning the block holes
Originally Posted by tommycompton
One question I have; maybe someone can clarrify and put my mind at ease?
People say not to run stock rockers with bronze valve guides on aftermarket heads; is that only a problem with higher lift cams?
Anybody here have an opinion; I put off ordering from summit pending my desicion on rockers. I may just order some yella terras and be done with it.
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Originally Posted by Dmax/04V
I know you don't need studs on a NA motor, whats your reasoning on why bolts are better? Curious here.
I dont remember the technical specs details but it has to do with how the bolts compress. Tony Mamo is building a sick setup for my buddies Z28 and he described the reasoning for bolts instead of studs. Liek I said its far more advanced then I can explain lol.
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Originally Posted by itsslow98
I dont remember the technical specs details but it has to do with how the bolts compress. Tony Mamo is building a sick setup for my buddies Z28 and he described the reasoning for bolts instead of studs. Liek I said its far more advanced then I can explain lol.
F me in the A......I ordered ARP studs.
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I don't think you'll suffer any...
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You'll be alright, while I have no doubt that Tony Mamo knows more on the matter than I do i haven't ever had issues with studs on NA motors over the years.
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Originally Posted by lollygagger8
F me in the A......I ordered ARP studs.
Trust me I wouldnt be concerned, I was merely stating was was passed along to myself by a buddy who is having Tony Mamo build his entire top end.




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