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What is the best thing to help the wheel hop? Does anything actually eliminate the wheel hop?
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Rev shift bushings help a lot. On irs suspension you will have wheel hop under certain conditons. Mine are gone for the most part under most conditons very rarely do I get wheel hop.
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Replace all the rubber in the rear with Revshift hard poly bushings first, geforce axle kits after that..or go big with an 8.8 ford rear end kit that will take the punishment regardless of hop.
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I have DSS/Hendrix axles and Specter Werkes cradle bushings. I can dump the clutch at 3k RPM, bury the throttle, and bounce off the rev limiter with zero WH.

Jumping on the throttle in 2nd gear at about 2.5k RPM also induces burning rubber with no WH.

Since I don't drive in rain, I cannot attest to WH in those conditions.
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Originally Posted by serik21
Rev shift bushings help a lot. On irs suspension you will have wheel hop under certain conditons. Mine are gone for the most part under most conditons very rarely do I get wheel hop.
What revshift bushing exactly? I only have the revshift rear diff bushing.
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revshift cradle bushings and trailing arm if im not mistaken
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I have cradle and trailing arm bushing. I also has 8.8 diff. And under certain wet condition it hopped a little but this diff just doesnt care.
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Originally Posted by ravenls6v
Replace all the rubber in the rear with Revshift hard poly bushings first
I'm not too concerned with wheel hop, but I am wondering if changing all of these bushings will make the car ride like a rock?

How about RevShift's Soft Bushings - Smoother ride?

TIA
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Buy an F-body.
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Originally Posted by NIKDSC5
Buy an F-body.


yeah, then youll have to swap that rear out for something else too
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Originally Posted by NIKDSC5
Buy an F-body.
and break the 10 bolt instead. LOL
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Originally Posted by mhhamrhead
I'm not too concerned with wheel hop, but I am wondering if changing all of these bushings will make the car ride like a rock?

How about RevShift's Soft Bushings - Smoother ride?

TIA
I noticed the ride got stiffer after the cradle/control arm bushings
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Originally Posted by plastus85
I noticed the ride got stiffer after the cradle/control arm bushings
That's what I was wondering - Thanks
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Originally Posted by mhhamrhead
I'm not too concerned with wheel hop, but I am wondering if changing all of these bushings will make the car ride like a rock?

How about RevShift's Soft Bushings - Smoother ride?

TIA
I noticed no difference in the ride quality at all.
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Originally Posted by mhhamrhead
I'm not too concerned with wheel hop, but I am wondering if changing all of these bushings will make the car ride like a rock?

How about RevShift's Soft Bushings - Smoother ride?

TIA
If your not worried about wheel hop or not gonna track the car, I would stick with what you have. They were designed with comfort in mind. I noticed a big difference once I went to the hard revshift cradle bushings. I personally love the feel, but if your worried about the ride, imo, stick with the factory bushings. And I doubt the softer revshift bushings are any better the the harder ones, but I have no experience with the softer bushings. Just my .02
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Smile wheel hop

just feather the clutch, till u get an automatic....
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BMR bushing kit did it for me, going to the revshift softer bushings due to an 8.8 set up. Axles for the 04/05 have the same axles vs 06/07. Owning an 05 and an 06 both stock for stock the 06 had far less hop...
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I would start with searching this site.

I have revshift blue tranny and motormounts and I did not notice a harsher ride at all.

We will see when the cradle gets done.

It is a trade off, so if you want to go faster, alot of times you will have to sacrifice the ride.
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Originally Posted by brack86svo
I noticed no difference in the ride quality at all.
Yup, neither did I.

Originally Posted by 54inches
I would start with searching this site.

I have revshift blue tranny and motormounts and I did not notice a harsher ride at all.

We will see when the cradle gets done.

It is a trade off, so if you want to go faster, alot of times you will have to sacrifice the ride.
I don't think it effects ride really at all. The control arm bushings may, but IMO all they did was help wheel hop and amplify noises more. There is no more soft rubber dampening/sound deadening anymore. Also, why go with the softer revshift stuff? It is not that great of a change.

Anyway, Every revshift bushing that is offered in the rear (UCA, Cradle, Trailing arms, pinion), diff block, pinion support, G-force axels, Map/creative steel trailing arms (get rid of front rubber mount), BMR/Creative steel toe rods, good tires at right psi, should solve 99% of wheel hop.

*Except in rain*

I would love to see a car built like that with a stock rear and have the owner just beat on the rear end to see if it would still hop and possibly break. Come on OP buy all of it and let us know! Should be right around 1900$ in all!!!
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An 8.8 swap will do the same.


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