azcomrob

Living in Scottsdale I see alot of AMG Merc's mostly driven by people who don't take them over 50mph. The other day I was stopped at a light presetting some of the radio stations and and drinking a coffee. I was alerted to the light turning green by the sound of an e55's supercharger launching on me. By the time I put the cofee down and got the car in gear he had 50 yards on me. I began to close the gap around 100 or so but I soon killed it because the K-40 was going nuts (photo radar van was ahead). Has anyone out there taken there V against one of these? I guess I'm just curious to see how my V would hold up? I'm not sure what my times are after the maggie and exhaust.

04ctsvfl

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probably will be a damn good race from a dig....but you should crush him from a roll.

04ctsvfl

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the 20's are killin yea tho.

onebadcad

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From a dig you will lose, from a roll it will be close but you will have to be the much better driver. Unless you have seen an E55 race, be it on the street or at the track, you cannot have an appreciation for how fast they are. You can also mod them to run sub 11's. I do not think a V with 500RWHP can beat one from a dig or roll. Then again, prove me wrong.

germeezy1

They run mid 12's stock so from a dig thanks to his ability to floor it and forget it he will be ahead for a little while. From a roll if your anything close to 450 RWHP you will own him with good shifting. The AMG 55 cars are supposed to be as fast as the 600's but its just not the case. My brother has a CL600 and the extra 74 lb ft really makes a difference vs the CL55.

Seattle CTS-V

They trap 112ish in the 1/4 mile. My maggied V traps 116mph. From a roll you should be able to show him your taillights. From a dig though, it'll take you the whole 1/4 mile just to catch up...at least it would for me since my best 1/4 is only 12.8@116. My shifting has improved since last spring though!

azcomrob

I think that the overall consensus is correct in that he would have had me off the line and that I would have cought him in the long run. Like I said before I started gaining around 90-100 mph the fuzz ruined all the fun. Those things are crazy fast and it was neat seeing one in action.

For the one who commented about the 20"s slowing me down, do you have any idea just how significant this is?

04ctsvfl

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I think from 0-100 it will be a drivers race....meaning if you launch well, and shift well You should win by a nose, as most have said, also as most have said, from a roll you should def pull at least a half car from 20-100 and anything 100+ you should do very welll.......

I think one bad cads assessment is completely wrong. Unless the e55's modded, which you didnt mention.

04ctsvfl

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well, its more rotating mass. And they probably weigh more, and the launch and 2nd gear shift would probably be improved by ditching the 20's.....If I were you Id buy the 18" Kinesis rims on ebay...if there still on there......Id say and this is complete guesswork the 20's would add approx. .2-.4 onto your 1/4 mile time......all depending on their weight.

BaddillaK

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im gonna have to go with onebadcad's assessment on the results... ive driven an e55 amg, and they run like nobody's buisness from a dig, and are easy to drive... in a maggied V it'll be a little hard to get traction off the line and launch good enough to get him off the line... but if you run from about 30-40 your gonna kill him

wicked v

On the wheel size, I believe 2c5s dynoed a car with 20 inch wheels and stated that the car lost about 20 rear wheel HP.

onebadcad

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http://www.dragtimes.com/Mercedes-Be...slip-2971.html
http://www.dragtimes.com/Mercedes-Be...slip-7187.html
http://www.dragtimes.com/Mercedes-Be...lip-10571.html
http://www.dragtimes.com/Mercedes-Be...slip-3064.html
http://www.dragtimes.com/Mercedes-Be...slip-4971.html
http://www.dragtimes.com/Mercedes-Be...slip-7815.html
http://www.dragtimes.com/Mercedes-Be...slip-4783.html
http://www.dragtimes.com/Mercedes-Be...lip-10757.html
http://www.dragtimes.com/Mercedes-Be...slip-4374.html
http://www.dragtimes.com/Mercedes-Be...slip-7808.html
http://www.dragtimes.com/Mercedes-Be...lip-11065.html

I think my assessment is more correct than anything else posted in this thread. For the doubters, I will presume that each of you have had many run-ins with multiple E-55s and have 'done very well'. Also, you can cling to the hope that a V will win from a roll, but not if you realize each time posted above has a MPH of 120, which if you are exceeding on a venue other than the dragstrip, you have bigger problems than just trying to beat a V. If your assessment is true, there is a very large conspiracy going on at every dragstrip in America... The E55 is a great straight-line racer, the V will destroy it on the twisties, is much more fun and affordable to modify, is more unique, is made in the USA-well sort of, represents better value (I could go on forever), but will not beat an E55 from a stop or dig unless there is a huge driver advantage, even with a Maggie. Now take your V into 500+RWHP territory and you will start to kick its butt.

04ctsvfl

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thats because those maggied V owners cant drive there cars!@!!! I remember back in the day ~04 there was a guy who posted a timeslip of a V wirh a wheel hop kit and drag radials going 12.9....no motor mods.......because he could drive the damn car. A maggied V with the proper wheel hop kit + d radialsshould be an 11 sec car with the proper driver ALLL DAY LONG. 04 z06's with the same motor Ive seen 12.2 and lower stock motor with drag radials.

04ctsvfl

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but why doesnt the guy go race the guy.....and post the results....and find out if the e55 hes speaking of is even stock......

onebadcad

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E55s are difficult to determine if stock. Reprogramming, larger TB, pulley swap, etc... are mods which cannot be detected. Also, I agree, at 500RWHP a Maggied V should run sub 12s, but even with BMR or KARS, you will break the rear trying-I learned this lesson the hard and costly way. Two Vs have gone 11.9XX, and one had the Damian rear and the other, Gene, is a helluva racer. The E55 has the same rear-end as the SL65, it is bullet-proof, and a very big reason why a Maggie V will not keep up. Again, there is no way to tell if an E55 has been modified, as I know of no one who has changed the SC, heads or cam-there is no need, it is already damn near perfect.

PIGGY

I say if you really want to test the 500 RWHP V .. Go find a brand new E63.. There we're talking about who has the biggest Gonads to go the fastest. You beat an E63.. You'll beat the E55.

onebadcad

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http://www.dragtimes.com/results.php...arch+DragTimes

Check out dragtimes.com and MBWorld.org forums, and you will conclude the E55 is the stronger sibling.

germeezy1

I bought my C5 with the Y2k 18's....and when I did the 20's I was excited because I thought the diameter/ weight difference would make the car hook up better. And I was so wrong the car spins the tires just as easily now as it did before.

And the E63 don't seem to run any better magazine times. More hp but also less torque. But from a roll they have the advantage of the 7A. If a Maggie V driver can drive he will beat a ~12.4ish 1/4 mile M5 or E55/63 from a roll. I am waiting for the next gen CTS-V it will be joining my Vette in the stable. I can only wish for a LS-7!

Seattle CTS-V

Stock E55's do not even come close to 120mph STOCK. Go to page 3 and 4 of the dragtimes links and you'll see the truly stock E55's running 112-113 in the 1/4. Those people stating they run 11's @ 120mph in bone stock E55's are of the shifty-eyed contingent. You can't trust 'em. No way, no how. Some of these people probably think drag slicks still make the car stock. As long as we're bench racing though, there isn't a car magazine on the planet that shows an E55 running these 1/4 trap speeds.

pakisho

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11s at120mph in a STOCK E55? Lol. Maybe if it fell off a cliff.

Flat out wrong.